Incognito

Deleted User · Mar 12, 2019

Adran_Marit said:
soon... it's sooo close now

welp they just released their beta for 7.0 and incognito doesnt seem to want to work still

bananapi761 · Mar 12, 2019

CloudLep said:
welp they just released their beta for 7.0 and incognito doesnt seem to want to work still

Managed to get it to work on my Switch, I'm on 7.0.1 using the Reinx beta.

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I got 2123-0011 when accessing online, too. Correct me if I'm wrong, but would it be possible to 'spoof' serials that the servers recognise as legit?

designgears · Mar 12, 2019

pcwizard7 said:
kk i m caught up now i have two question
1. what is the safest way to test if my switch is banned without risking my nintenido account for the test?
2. is there any method for emunand other than sxos yet?

1. restore your clean nand backup and check (if you aren't on the latest firmware you can't access the eshop)
2. no

bananapi761 said:
Managed to get it to work on my Switch, I'm on 7.0.1 using the Reinx beta.

I got 2123-0011 when accessing online, too. Correct me if I'm wrong, but would it be possible to 'spoof' serials that the servers recognise as legit?

Nope, you need the cert that is being wiped out as well, others have tried to replace the cert as well with no luck.

tatundria · Mar 13, 2019

I got "failed writing serial" error. I launched it with ReiNX. How can I fix this?

blawar · Mar 13, 2019

tatundria said:
I got "failed writing serial" error. I launched it with ReiNX. How can I fix this?

I heard someone say something about the wrong sept directory. Haven't tried it myself yet.

tatundria · Mar 13, 2019

W

blawar said:
I heard someone say something about the wrong sept directory. Haven't tried it myself yet.

Which is the correct sept directory then?

Jil.10 · Mar 13, 2019

Hi, is this really working? Can i play online without getting banned?

Draxzelex · Mar 13, 2019

Jil.10 said:
Hi, is this really working? Can i play online without getting banned?

This tool prevents you from going online. Its functionally identical to 90DNS.

pcwizard7 · Mar 16, 2019

designgears said:
1. restore your clean nand backup and check (if you aren't on the latest firmware you can't access the eshop)

OK this is what i ve done
1. restore my oldest nand backup which was 4.1.0 I could have used my 5.1.0 which is where my fuses are at but i wanted it to start with least personal infor possible.
2. then offline update to 5.1.0 then create emnand on sd card (hidden partition)
3. then offline update the sysnand to 7.0.1 and emunand to 6.2.0
4. I then created a dummy Nintendo account and link the switch
5. I ve downloaded Pokemon quest and YouTube as test and it worked fine

I know this could change anytime but i can hope and at least my main account is safe

BadNinty · Apr 1, 2019

restore function didn't work.. it still shows empty serial number on Serial information page at system settings even after restart my console. I think if restore function did work it might be actually can unban my console because i getting different error connecting to ninty server after zero out my console's serial number.. please fix it so i can import prodinfo from unban console. I'm using sx os.

hippy dave · Apr 1, 2019

BadNinty said:
restore function didn't work.. it still shows empty serial number on Serial information page at system settings even after restart my console. I think if restore function did work it might be actually can unban my console because i getting different error connecting to ninty server after zero out my console's serial number.. please fix it so i can import prodinfo from unban console. I'm using sx os.

You won't be able to use info from another console without patching certain checks, for which the patches aren't public.

Myron49485 · Apr 6, 2019

Does Incognito remove all personally identifiable information?
Or does it only remove things like the cert that can't be spoofed (unlike mac address/ serial number/ etc. that can be spoofed), so that it is just "good enough" to evade bans?

And could the error reports that are already on the console (due to running ofw) give away it's identity?

Draxzelex · Apr 6, 2019

Myron49485 said:
Does Incognito remove all personally identifiable information?
Or does it only remove things like the cert that can't be spoofed (unlike mac address/ serial number/ etc. that can be spoofed), so that it is just "good enough" to evade bans?

And could the error reports that are already on the console (due to running ofw) give away it's identity?

Incognito does not help evade bans. It delays bans. It operates the same way as 90DNS by "temporarily banning" the console. The real purpose of features like this, Stealth Mode, and 90DNS is just a way to use FTP or other wireless functions without worrying about a ban but the problem is if your NAND isn't clean when you use this tool, you're merely delaying the inevitable. Once you restore your certificate, you risk a ban.

As for your other question, I believe it only removes the certificate but the OP can clarify if Incognito wipes out any more information.

blahblah · Apr 6, 2019

Draxzelex said:
Incognito does not help evade bans. It delays bans. It operates the same way as 90DNS by "temporarily banning" the console. The real purpose of features like this, Stealth Mode, and 90DNS is just a way to use FTP or other wireless functions without worrying about a ban but the problem is if your NAND isn't clean when you use this tool, you're merely delaying the inevitable. Once you restore your certificate, you risk a ban.

As for your other question, I believe it only removes the certificate but the OP can clarify if Incognito wipes out any more information.

90DNS and Incognito could not be more different. 90DNS attempts to block Nintendo urls/ips/etc. It's an approach prone to failure. One change from Nintendo, one address that was not blocked but should have been and you have a ban. Accidentally drop your Switch into a dock that has an ethernet adapter attached and a ban will arrive. 90DNS has an issue on their end, you get banned.

Incognito is different. Incognito doesn't ban the Switch, it removes the Switch's ability to authenticate with Nintendo entirely. The Switch can't send data to Nintendo because the Switch can't establish a connection to Nintendo. The Switch can't get far enough into the authentication flow to learn if it is banned or not.

It's a useful tool. Makes a good combo with emuNAND. Once you run Incognito, you don't have to worry about connecting to a different WiFi network by mistake/attaching a USB ethernet adapter/etc. Incognito remains until uninstalled.

Of course, like you said, one does need a clean image to setup emuNAND, once that functionality arrives in mainstream CFWs. No real avoiding that, other than reconstructing a NAND from scratch, which can be done....but is a lot of work.

Incognito is not a tool that allows you to have pirate stuff and legit stuff on one eMMC without getting banned.

Draxzelex · Apr 6, 2019

blahblah said:
90DNS and Incognito could not be more different. 90DNS attempts to block Nintendo urls/ips/etc. It's an approach prone to failure. One change from Nintendo, one address that was not blocked but should have been and you have a ban. Accidentally drop your Switch into a dock that has an ethernet adapter attached and a ban will arrive. 90DNS has an issue on their end, you get banned.

The chances of this are being vastly overexaggerated. This is like the chances of installing a .NSP file disguised as brick code which has only happened before those games came out. There is no situation where Nintendo added a new URL that 90DNS did not block.

blahblah · Apr 6, 2019

Draxzelex said:
The chances of this are being vastly overexaggerated. This is like the chances of installing a .NSP file disguised as brick code which has only happened before those games came out. There is no situation where Nintendo added a new URL that 90DNS did not block.

It is far more likely that a third party service experiences an outage than that someone mildly competent downloads a malicious NSP and bypasses the 18 different warnings that it is bad.

Reducing risk is better than accepting risk. Incognito allows you to reduce risk.

Draxzelex · Apr 6, 2019

blahblah said:
It is far more likely that a third party service experiences an outage than that someone mildly completely downloads a malicious NSP and bypasses the 18 different warnings that it is bad.

Reducing risk is better than accepting risk. Incognito allows you to reduce risk.

Its clearly not more likely considering there has not been one but two malicious brick code .NSP files meanwhile 90DNS hasn't failed me once.

In my opinion, stuff like 90DNS and Incognito are not even that useful to begin with because we have other ways of transferring files without FTP such as nxmtp and being worried about a ban on a hacked console is needless concern.

blahblah · Apr 6, 2019

Draxzelex said:
Its clearly not more likely considering there has not been one but two malicious brick code .NSP files meanwhile 90DNS hasn't failed me once.

In my opinion, stuff like 90DNS and Incognito are not even that useful to begin with because we have other ways of transferring files without FTP such as nxmtp and being worried about a ban on a hacked console is needless concern.

I don't know how to be more clear. It is simply factual that there is a risk of 90DNS experiencing an outage, as it is a third party service that you do not personally control. Incognito removes that risk from the equation.

I don't know why you have an issue with Incognito, but the stuff you are saying is just stupid and you should really stop. Recommending something that the user does not control instead of recommending a sure-fire solution is dumb.

Draxzelex · Apr 6, 2019

blahblah said:
I don't know how to be more clear. It is simply factual that there is a risk of 90DNS experiencing an outage, as it is a third party service that you do not personally control. Incognito removes that risk from the equation.

I don't know why you have an issue with Incognito, but the stuff you are saying is just stupid and you should really stop. Recommending something that the user does not control instead of recommending a sure-fire solution is dumb.

Because reality doesn't always line up with the practically of what you're saying. Your chances of being in a car crash are higher than Nintendo adding a new URL. But do people stop going outside and living their lives? Of course not. The difference is meaningless in the face of reality as well as lacking any real world examples of this happening makes the difference moot between the two applications.

Also I don't support applications such as 90DNS or Incognito as I just said.

blahblah · Apr 6, 2019

Draxzelex said:
Because reality doesn't always line up with the practically of what you're saying. Your chances of being in a car crash are higher than Nintendo adding a new URL. But do people stop going outside and living their lives? Of course not. The difference is meaningless in the face of reality as well as lacking any real world examples of this happening makes the difference moot between the two applications.

Also I don't support applications such as 90DNS or Incognito as I just said.

You are clearly non technical if you genuinely believe stuff like 'Your chances of being in a car crash are higher than Nintendo adding a new URL'. That's a garbage opinion and borderline unrelated to my actual argument - the real risk comes from 90DNS having an outage.

You are not sufficiently technical for me to argue with, so I'm going to ignore your replies going forward.

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