New Minecraft update removes references to creator "Notch"

Ev1l0rd · Mar 29, 2019

pitterpatter said:
not really, dude. it's your friend who wrote the extensive treatise on the guy, complete with citations. seems like he's been compiling it for much longer than I've been in this thread.

Did you ignore my response...? The process is usually more akin to:

Shitpost online/on discord
"Hey person X is being a dumb again"
Check it out
Mentally go "wtf"
Remember this incident
Move on with my life

All of the things I listed occured in the past three months, hence why they're fresh on my mind, but I know that he's done more that shoots past me at the moment.

DuoForce · Mar 29, 2019

Notch has cool political views and all but he is a sellout, no remorse here

murdersbane · Mar 29, 2019

I love how people are blowing up what the dude tweeted out of purportion

Notch "I don't like the president"

Internet "OHH MY FUCKING GAAWWDDDD NOTCH SAID KILL THE PRESIDENT AND BURN HIS FAMILYYY IMMPPOOOSIIIIBRRUUUU"

about sums up what's going on.

SANIC · Mar 29, 2019

murdersbane said:
I love how people are blowing up what the dude tweeted out of purportion

Notch "I don't like the president"

Internet "OHH MY FUCKING GAAWWDDDD NOTCH SAID KILL THE PRESIDENT AND BURN HIS FAMILYYY IMMPPOOOSIIIIBRRUUUU"

about sums up what's going on.

That is just a personal opinion though, you're over simplifying it. His statements are attacks to specific groups. While yes, it has been blown out of proportion, what he said is still controversial.

ArugulaZ · Mar 29, 2019

pitterpatter said:
seems like he lives in your head rent-free, tbh

Seems like this news bothers you a lot more than it bothers me.

Pacheko17 · Mar 29, 2019

Notch is a decent human being, I have similar beliefs although I'm a bit more extreme. This is a really sad thing on a really great game.

xxSora · Mar 30, 2019

codezer0 said:
Though i never played minecraft, because it wasn't my kind of thing, and because its default aesthetic seems to actively attack my eyes for some reason, what i could finf of what Notch looks like... I can't help but be reminded of the meme of that creepy dude that's always quoted as saying "install gentoo" or some other crap.

Except Richard Stallman isnt a right-wing retard, he is the literal opposite of it, and actually does good shit and not just spout garbage on twitter like Notch does.

xxSora · Mar 30, 2019

Pacheko17 said:
Notch is a decent human being, I have similar beliefs although I'm a bit more extreme. This is a really sad thing on a really great game.

Ayy bro I think I found a picture of you

Ev1l0rd · Mar 30, 2019

xxSora said:
Except Richard Stallman isnt a right-wing retard, he is the literal opposite of it, and actually does good shit and not just spout garbage on twitter like Notch does.

That's not stallman, pretty sure he's just referring to something from /g/. Stallman doesn't endorse any particular distro afaik and would ideally use Hurd instead if Hurd weren't in perma dev hell.

livipup · Mar 30, 2019

ClassyDragon said:
It's a smart business move. Notch sold the game (for a lot of money) so MS is free to distance its game with such wide appeal from a guy with such controversial opinions. Still kinda sad to see it happen though. Haven't followed the supposed Twitter fiasco but I remember him being a pretty influential example of what an indie developer can do back in the day.

Personally I only barely looked at his Twitter account because I was pretty confused by some of the stuff I was reading about the issue, but yeah turns out he's actually pretty typical among game devs. As a game development student taking a reduced courseload I'm always in classes with new people, and I have to say that the stereotypes are pretty accurate. I even go to a progressive college and yet people still act that way. He's controversial from a business perspective, though completed normal from a gamer's perspective. I know people like that are a very loud minority and that most people who make or play video games are just regular people, but it seems that people like him barely constitute being called a minority. It's sad to see it happen, but it's not unexpected. And hey, we always have ConcernedApe (Stardew Valley) to replace him these days, so it couldn't have happened at a better time. Indie devs still have someone they can actually look up to without feeling ashamed.

KoalaityTV · Mar 30, 2019

MrHuu said:
I personally don't understand why these references are getting removed. He did make the game, right?
There are absolutely no references to his personal opinions, and those are completely unrelated to the game, which Notch made.

I don't say i agree with his opinions, but i definitely don't agree with the GBATemp dramaqueens forcing their opinions to other users..

Agreed, he created this game and founded the company that continues to work on it. He deserves credit for that.

Ev1l0rd · Mar 30, 2019

KoalaityTV said:
Agreed, he created this game and founded the company that continues to work on it. He deserves credit for that.

And he has, he's still listed in the credits .

brunocar · Mar 31, 2019

filfat said:
Yes, socialism is totally right-wing. lmao.

right, so i guess stalin was a nazi? stop saying stupid shit, the democratic republic of korea isnt democratic.

murdersbane · Mar 31, 2019

SANIC said:
That is just a personal opinion though, you're over simplifying it. His statements are attacks to specific groups. While yes, it has been blown out of proportion, what he said is still controversial.

Who cares what he said? It's his OPINION! As I said before don't like it cry about it.

He doesn't like trans people/gay people... So what? It's his opinion. Snowflake generation smdh.

SANIC · Mar 31, 2019

murdersbane said:
Who cares what he said? It's his OPINION! As I said before don't like it cry about it.

He doesn't like trans people/gay people... So what? It's his opinion. Snowflake generation smdh.

It isn't that he voices his opinion, it's that he attacks people with them. There's a difference between disagreeing and trying to force your own ideas down someone's virtual throat. Like I said, it has been blown out of proportion, but there's no excuse for what he said.

Deleted member 445482 · Mar 31, 2019

He has nothing to do with the game anymore so I think it would be fine for all references to him to be removed.

FAST6191 · Apr 1, 2019

Zeldaplayer67 said:
He has nothing to do with the game anymore so I think it would be fine for all references to him to be removed.

Say a few years from now a movie studio decides to reissue a film, call it a remaster and maybe a light recut or "restoration of deleted scenes". Would you be OK with the director having their references stripped? Technically the director could ask (see Alan Smithee) but that would be an active measure.

While I would agree if it is someone else's product now and the rights have been sold then they could do what was done here... it is still something of a dick move.

Deleted member 445482 · Apr 1, 2019

FAST6191 said:
Say a few years from now a movie studio decides to reissue a film, call it a remaster and maybe a light recut or "restoration of deleted scenes". Would you be OK with the director having their references stripped? Technically the director could ask (see Alan Smithee) but that would be an active measure.

While I would agree if it is someone else's product now and the rights have been sold then they could do what was done here... it is still something of a dick move.

Well if the director isn't affiliated with the company at all anymore it would make sense.

FAST6191 · Apr 1, 2019

Zeldaplayer67 said:
Well if the director isn't affiliated with the company at all anymore it would make sense.

A curious way of thinking.

Generally for most creative/art types they are all about the credit, attribution, and similar such things, to snub someone in such endeavours generally being seen as quite bad. To retroactively remove someone from something... something mighty bad ought to have happened first. https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-06-03-100-staff-cut-from-la-noire-credits for an example here.

murdersbane · Apr 1, 2019

Ether way love him or hate him his name is still there ... Just his splash text removed.

SANIC said:
It isn't that he voices his opinion, it's that he attacks people with them. There's a difference between disagreeing and trying to force your own ideas down someone's virtual throat. Like I said, it has been blown out of proportion, but there's no excuse for what he said.

Where did he attack them? I missed that part.

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