Soo.... no facts?
Come back when you're ready to have a substantive conversation and not troll.and they're selling gangbusters.
Soo.... no facts?
Come back when you're ready to have a substantive conversation and not troll.and they're selling gangbusters.
I never claimed to have facts. You did. See what happens when you pretend to know what you're talking about, hunny? Being dismissive shows that you've lost, fyi.Come back when you're ready to have a substantive conversation and not troll.
The fact it was agreed up by all open source to use sept, well that speaks for itself
TX has two options the way I see it
or
- Use sept and admit they use atmosphere based code
- Not use sept and not have 7.0.x+ support
Are you seriously suggesting that if TX burns an exploit, it's SciresM's fault for not burning the exploit first?
Nothing has been obscured. Sept has to be signed with the TSEC keys to be decrypted by TSEC. The only thing not included with sept are the aforementioned keys. If TX cannot break TSEC and get those keys, that's their problem.
Unless they burn an exploit, particularly one that might apply to systems other than the Switch, I don't see why we'd hate them for using their own exploit.
Free CFW is ahead of SX OS where it counts: support for newer system versions and, by extension, future games.
I said TX sales might be flat. You said TX sales are selling gangbusters. One's a statement about what could be true, and the other is a statement about what is true. Come back when you realize I have higher standards than you're used to.I never claimed to have facts. You did. See what happens when you pretend to know what you're talking about, hunny? Being dismissive shows that you've lost, fyi.
You just went and edited all your posts. It literally shows that you did. Nice try saving face.I said TX sales might be flat. You said TX sales are selling gangbusters. One's a statement about what could be true, and the other is a statement about what is true. Come back when you realize I have higher standards than you're used to.
I don't accept claims just because they haven't been proven wrong,
I said TX sales might be flat. You said TX sales are selling gangbusters. One's a statement about what could be true, and the other is a statement about what is true. Come back when you realize I have higher standards than you're used to.
Also, if TX had no roadblocks, they wouldn't have to create a post saying that there are no roadblocks.
You forgot 50% of the options.
option three, get hold of the key to sign sept
option four, use a non sept exploit
Although none of their customers would care if they used sept, everyone knows they use atmosphere code already. You'll still be annoyed that they don't credit them.
If the keys (which aren't copyrightable despite the lies) to sign sept were released then yes TX wouldn't need to burn an exploit.
It turns into our problem if they burn an exploit. It's also annoying that the keys are hoarded. Maybe it was done so that he could sell the keys to TX.....
What about one that may have applied to mariko?
According to TX they added support for 7.x games running on 6.2 already.
Don't worry, no one here had any illusion to contrary.I never claimed to have facts
I'd be skeptical of anonymous numbers.
The only data I've seen suggests sales have dropped dramatically since last summer.
I've referenced my poll numerous times over the last 24 hours, and nobody has provided any other data, so it's all I have.
The question is whether or not these options are in TX's wheelhouse. It's also worth pointing out, as I've done in the past, that TX's commitment to delaying the 7.0.x (perhaps indefinitely) over using sept and the Atmosphere logo says a lot about their business model's reliance on user ignorance.You forgot 50% of the options.
option three, get hold of the key to sign sept
option four, use a non sept exploit
My experience in real life is that a lot of SX OS users don't know what Atmosphere is or that there are free alternatives.Although none of their customers would care if they used sept, everyone knows they use atmosphere code already. You'll still be annoyed that they don't credit them.
The keys are probably illegal to share, and even if they aren't, it's ambiguous and well within the right of SciresM, et al. to not take that risk. In addition, if TX can get ahold of the keys, they don't have to burn an exploit to update SX OS.If the keys (which aren't copyrightable despite the lies) to sign sept were released then yes TX wouldn't need to burn an exploit.
Neither you, TX, nor anyone else is entitled to those keys. If you want them, break TSEC yourself. You can also see above about why, whether or not you believe it's illegal to share the keys, it might be a good idea not to.It turns into our problem if they burn an exploit. It's also annoying that the keys are hoarded. Maybe it was done so that he could sell the keys to TX.....
I don't think I would be against it if TX burned an exploit that applied to ipatched units at this point, if that's what you're asking.What about one that may have applied to mariko?
System version requirements can be bypassed, yes. And master key encryption can be changed since those keys are public. But eventually, games made with later software development kits will require 7.0.x, and there will be no way around it.According to TX they added support for 7.x games running on 6.2 already.
What are you even talking about? I haven't edited my posts for anything other than grammar fixes or merged replies, and they were seconds after the initial posting. I've said this a lot to you today, but you're going to have to do better than that.You just went and edited all your posts. It literally shows that you did. Nice try saving face.
When did I do that?Apart from your own claims. You're making assumptions based on things that you believe without any proof that they are true.
I agree.TX sales might be flat you say? Sure they might be, they might not be.
Yes, but my point was that it looks very possible sales are flat after a steep decline since the release of free CFW.Flat sales means they are continuing at the same rate, it doesn't say anything about what that rate is, they just aren't growing month on month. So they could be selling ten thousand every month, or only one every month and it's still flat.
Regardless, nobody should take TX's word for anything. They also said they had a coldboot exploit they were releasing for ipatched units, but there's no reason to believe that's true.You're saying something vague and hoping to make people think you're saying something meaningful, not exactly helpful & surely shouldn't be used to build your own argument.
As I demonstrated a few posts ago, I've only made statements about what could be true based on things like polling data. I have not made any assertions about what's true or even what's likely true. My standards include not putting words in other people's mouths; I suggest you adopt those standards.Higher standards? You're basing your opinion purely on something that could be true, please come back when you have some standards.
I agree that we can't assume a post about no roadblocks means there are roadblocks, but the post likely only exists because of the speculation and legitimate fear by some users and 7.0.x will never come. A post about it doesn't necessarily mean an update is anywhere close to being released.We don't know that for sure. They may have had to change how they did things which requires slog work, but slog work that they know they can do. Or maybe they've run
My numbers are not anonymous (I've told you they came from my poll), and the respondents are not anonymous.cough. I'd be skeptical of anonymous numbers.
Why would you have an EmuNAND when you have a CFW'd SysNAND? Why not multiple EmuNANDs (assuming SX OS supports those) or waiting for Thermosphere?That's why you use atmosphere on sysNAND and SX-OS on emuNAND, kids.
If they burn an exploit, they're fucking everyone and themselves up.
Sometimes that is the most satisfying thing to do
fwiw there is a permanent unpatchable tsec exploit, but releasing that would cause WAY more bad than it would goodIf sacrificing a greater good for greedy 7.0 support is what they'll do, us people that know more than surface-level will know how much of a scummy group they are.
If sacrificing a greater good for greedy 7.0 support is what they'll do, us people that know more than surface-level will know how much of a scummy group they are.
fwiw there is a permanent unpatchable tsec exploit, but releasing that would cause WAY more bad than it would good
That's why I alluded to devices other than the Switch in an earlier post. Regardless, when it comes to TSEC anyway, there should be no reason to consume an exploit if TX can privately gain access to the proper keys. With the keys, they can release an update to SX OS without releasing the exploit itself. If they burn an exploit with a release, it's because they're being reckless, and there's no one to blame but TX.fwiw there is a permanent unpatchable tsec exploit, but releasing that would cause WAY more bad than it would good
More than just the Switch modding scene, more like the world . That exploit affects over 3 billion devicesI'm sure releasing it would cause the scene to burn