3DS capture card maker Keity goes bankrupt

IrishMelody · Feb 3, 2019

That's really unfortunate. Good luck to him in his future endeavors.

Ericthegreat · Feb 3, 2019

SirNapkin1334 said:
That's exactly what they did. But you need a "card" to translate the raw data into anything usable.

Luckily, if Loopy ever pulls through, his software is free! Not open source though, unfortunately.

Well, the price is over 5,000 euros for a new system with it installed, so if he got 20 of them, that's already 100,000 euros.

No. I haven't heard anything about that. Maybe you're thinking about Loopy? Apparently his aren't as good but not crappy.

Sorry but can you show me where one goes for 5000, what's so special about this capture card vs others? Because I see some 2ds/3ds with capture card selling for $70.

SirNapkin1334 · Feb 3, 2019

Ericthegreat said:
Sorry but can you show me where one goes for 5000, what's so special about this capture card vs others? Because I see some 2ds/3ds with capture card selling for $70.

Oops. Sorry, it's 500 euros. My bad.

MadMageKefka · Feb 3, 2019

Oh, the person that tried to rip me off went bankrupt? Gee-golly-gosh that sinks.

Tried to buy a card and installation from them once and they said they would cover the shipping costs, and to go through UPS with their account number. Turns out UPS doesnt do accounts and it would have been over $80 to ship one way. They refused to pay the shipping (reasonable) but also refused to refund my purchase when I said I wasn't going to pay it either, since shipping was supposed to be included. Had to file with Paypal to get my money back. Not my fault their shipping instructions were made-up nonsense. Slimy jerk...

Ryab · Feb 3, 2019

MadMageKefka said:
Oh, the person that tried to rip me off went bankrupt? Gee-golly-gosh that sinks.

Tried to buy a card and installation from them once and they said they would cover the shipping costs, and to go through UPS with their account number. Turns out UPS doesnt do accounts and it would have been over $80 to ship one way. They refused to pay the shipping (reasonable) but also refused to refund my purchase when I said I wasn't going to pay it either, since shipping was supposed to be included. Had to file with Paypal to get my money back. Not my fault their shipping instructions were made-up nonsense. Slimy jerk...

are you sure that it wasnt a translation error seeing that they dont speak english

HelpTheWretched · Feb 3, 2019

fodder said:
Wasnt this the one that people said made crappy low quality capture cards?

I only know 1 person with a capture card from Katsukeity, and he says it's basically fallen apart from a fair number of cheap parts and cut corners.

haxan · Feb 3, 2019

MasterJ360 said:
Its too late his shop had to be shutdown you can buy his product from the European site, but even support wont make much of a difference now

damn that's a real shame

Pippin666 · Feb 4, 2019

I am not surprise. Just because you can make something doesn't mean you can run a business. Stupid people will always be stupid. I am glad they are dead.

Pip'

MadMageKefka · Feb 4, 2019

Zyvyn said:
are you sure that it wasnt a translation error seeing that they dont speak english

Their English seemed fine to me in our emails, but either way, yes, I'm sure. If the issue was me not understanding how they wanted me to send it, they should have clarified. What they did instead was offer to pay up to $30 (one way) and have me pay the rest. When I said that was unacceptable and requested a refund, they refused.

RareWare · Feb 4, 2019

MadMageKefka said:
Oh, the person that tried to rip me off went bankrupt? Gee-golly-gosh that sinks.

Tried to buy a card and installation from them once and they said they would cover the shipping costs, and to go through UPS with their account number. Turns out UPS doesnt do accounts and it would have been over $80 to ship one way. They refused to pay the shipping (reasonable) but also refused to refund my purchase when I said I wasn't going to pay it either, since shipping was supposed to be included. Had to file with Paypal to get my money back. Not my fault their shipping instructions were made-up nonsense. Slimy jerk...

I had an issue with my capture card and they had me send it back with the account. I could not do it at a UPS store but an actual UPS shipping center. UPS stores are crap. Not trying to super stand up for Katsukeity since other people had issues with him but this is what happened with shipping.

Edit: the reason is they sent me a used N3DS. They had it returned via 2 day shipping and sent me another one via 2 day all at their cost. The UPS rep said it was $150 to ship one way to Japan.

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HelpTheWretched said:
I only know 1 person with a capture card from Katsukeity, and he says it's basically fallen apart from a fair number of cheap parts and cut corners.

Mine has worked pretty well. They had semi recently redesigned the cards to get rid of the common stress failure points.

MadMageKefka · Feb 4, 2019

RareWare said:
I had an issue with my capture card and they had me send it back with the account. I could not do it at a UPS store but an actual UPS shipping center. UPS stores are crap. Not trying to super stand up for Katsukeity since other people had issues with him but this is what happened with shipping.

Edit: the reason is they sent me a used N3DS. They had it returned via 2 day shipping and sent me another one via 2 day all at their cost. The UPS rep said it was $150 to ship one way to Japan.

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Mine has worked pretty well. They had semi recently redesigned the cards to get rid of the common stress failure points.

I see. Thats good to know, but if that was the case they shouldn't have told me to pay the shipping costs and instead tried to clarify.

RareWare · Feb 4, 2019

MadMageKefka said:
I see. Thats good to know, but if that was the case they shouldn't have told me to pay the shipping costs and instead tried to clarify.

Completely understand. It was my inderstanding they had a go between as well that was doing the English communication. It was very difficult to explain through email.

MadMageKefka · Feb 4, 2019

RareWare said:
Completely understand. It was my inderstanding they had a go between as well that was doing the English communication. It was very difficult to explain through email.

If it was a communication error on their part, why refuse my refund and basically DEMAND I pay the shipping? Bad business is bad business.

Scarlet · Feb 4, 2019

I must be one of the only people to have never had an issue with them lol. Had my 3DS XL capture card for four years now and never had an issue with it. It even ended up being a cool Year of Luigi one, which was a nice surprise. It's kinda sad to see them gone, but I can't say I'm entirely surprised given the niche market.

MasterJ360 · Feb 4, 2019

Since its against the law to modify hardware in Japan now I guess he was SOL. Even if it wasn't a financial problem he would still have to shut his shop down.

MadMageKefka · Feb 4, 2019

MasterJ360 said:
Since its against the law to modify hardware in Japan now I guess he was SOL. Even if it wasn't a financial problem he would still have to shut his shop down.

Dumbest. Law. Ever.

Deleted User · Feb 4, 2019

Zyvyn said:
are you sure that it wasnt a translation error seeing that they dont speak english

I’m sure it wasn’t

I’ve had a good 6 kits from them, they choose their words very carefully

The Real Jdbye · Feb 4, 2019

Ericthegreat said:
Sorry but can you show me where one goes for 5000, what's so special about this capture card vs others? Because I see some 2ds/3ds with capture card selling for $70.

The cheap ones don't have capture cards, people just list "capture ready" or "streaming ready" etc. as a way to say that the console is hacked without having their listing taken down.

RivenMain · Feb 4, 2019

There's no real need for capture cards if you can emulate on pc or stream. I'd rather spend my 100$ on a good camera that I could make youtube videos and record my screen with and look okay than buying separate capture cards for every device I have.

Deleted User · Feb 4, 2019

CHEMI6DER said:
Afaik, it would actually be more expensive since hdmi is a patented technology and companies owning patents like to charge way too much with their fees. If you want to play 3ds games on a TV then it would make sense, but if it is just for capture then the usb method will be better, especially considering that line doubling(or any other scaling for that matter) can be done in the recording software like OBS. If I ever get to building a 3ds vga agapter(as described in the post you quoted), I'd hook it up to a crt monitor that I have laying around. 3ds's video would certainly look much better on a crt and the fact that most crts have analogue sync circuitry means thag it will accept the native 3ds vsync and hsync frequencies(I actually tried checking it by simulating it with nvidia graphics settings on my pc and it did pick ip and display the signal correctly). The advantage of a vga adapter is that making it is as simple as eating a cake: just three DACs(maybe with something to compensate for slop in pixel clock, but idk how precise 3ds's screen timing is) and a VGA connector, some soldering...figure out how to put the console together with all the wires...profit?(question mark cause I haven't tested if this actually works, but it should)

If you plan to sell it, then 2x line doubling is a necessity. Many TVs and capture cards only accept 480i/480p minimum, like my elgato.

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