First concept images for Mad Box console's controller revealed

guily6669 · Jan 24, 2019

Well I actually hope they really deliver as the more the better, but if it's strange it surely is since they just shown quite hugely expensive extreme stuff and not even Sega experienced company on console market ever tried to bring a new console to the table for a huge amount of years I guess they probably decided that it's just better to make games for the others instead.

I still hope they can make it happen at the price they kinda claim similar to the next gen consoles from Sony\M$, but they only shown pure Extreme stuff

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2 my eyes there's 2 faces of the coin. Best hardware on the consoles planet at affordable price is never sadly allied to too much extreme stuff unless it's something that is going to turn into a Dreamcast the console of the future 4 it's time that completely failed

).

Bladexdsl · Jan 24, 2019

this is pretty much their business plan

1. make a few shitty racing games
2. make a console and claim it's going to revolutionize the industry
3. watch it fail harder than the ouya

FAST6191 · Jan 24, 2019

KingVamp said:
Anyway, I'm not saying not to be sceptical. Really towards the people that are basically saying "why are they even trying?".

If they have nothing but empty air then I can see questioning the effort. There are times where people either have a good idea (I am not entirely sure what a good idea looks like today*) or a proper backing (not really here but when Amazon were floating their stuff a while back I saw it elsewhere, I saw a company with tech in house, that understands media, that has deals with all sorts of people there, that would be listened to by the game industry...) and would say people are unduly cynical. Right now we are all laughing, though probably not as much as slightly mad studios which if https://steamcharts.com/app/378860 is any indication are probably laughing all the way to the bank with the free publicity from a few tweets and a lunchtime 3d model.

*thinking compared to the 80s or the later rise of 3d where you could build, as such things are more or less sorted by software or generic hardware and any leaps I can really see happening with current tech are not going to do anything too special I am a loss there. While I have massive issues with the censorship going on today I don't especially see a PS1 era Sony "come play with us, we will be a joy to work with" play being all that effective. Maybe if someone paid off a bunch of android devs to clean up their code for a controller platform they could do that. That said if I had the good idea I would probably be working on it.

shadow1w2 · Jan 24, 2019

That d-pad looks incredibly painful.
At first I thought it had little walls between the gaps but its just on the edges, which still looks painful to slide a thumb across.
Weird how they mixed a Sega style disc with the playstation separated d-pad styles then add little wall things to stop anyone's thumb from sliding across smoothly.

I do like the idea of a screen but as the Steam Controller did I'm sure they'll also cut it out to save costs.
Other than that its pretty standard looking with weird grips is all.

Silent_Gunner · Jan 24, 2019

These are concept images, yes?

While I think this console is going to go the way of other systems that aren't the big three (like the 3DO, CD-i, and the Amiga CD32), I do think there could be some...potential with that center screen on the controller, but it depends on what exactly it is. Is it a touchscreen? Will it have tracking capabilities? How user-customizable will it be?

Depending on what it is, it could have some functionality that the PS4's trackpad doesn't.

That being said, I still await the day we have a mainstream wireless controller with six face buttons with all of the benefits of a modern controller. As much as I love my Fighting Commander Pro's from HORI, they can't be used for every game. And I still think that the ultimate controller would be one that's modular to be as customizable as possible. Like, you know how pre-built PCs are looked down upon in the PC gaming community due to their past and current reputation (looks at Alienware, Cyberpower, Corsair's gaming PCs, etc..)? I think it'd be neat if someone made a controller that could be multi-functional depending on how many expansions and modules you put onto it, making it the most cost effective and expensive controller at the same time, except that the users get to decide what they want.

I think about too many things while driving to college while I wish I could just take online classes.

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FAST6191 said:
Something actually with the potential to be interesting from this whole farce. This isn't particularly interesting but it had the potential at least, unlike a device with no specs and no games.

Not the worst concept controller I have ever seen, mainly as I still recall

View attachment 155880
https://www.gamepedia.com/images/feature-images/4127-e3-2005-ps3-controller_big

Still
Recessed sticks.
OK.
Dpad... why does nobody want to give me a sensible shape microswitch. That also looks like it will be filled with human slime before long.

Screen. If it has a decent API then I will pay attention. If it is going to be nothing interesting then count me out. Being a non standard feature for the PC (I am still dismissing the console) I doubt we will see anything particularly interesting a la the Dreamcast's VMU that some referenced. We can hope, and maybe it will be good for full screen no HUD play somewhere along the line.

You know, I've always been curious as to what they were trying to do with this controller. Like, did it have something to do with Sony's failed plans on integrating motion controls onto the main controller for the system before they came out with the Playstation MOVE, which, while it had better tracking than the Wiimotes from what I've heard, was too little, too late.

pedro702 · Jan 24, 2019

Silent_Gunner said:
These are concept images, yes?

While I think this console is going to go the way of other systems that aren't the big three (like the 3DO, CD-i, and the Amiga CD32), I do think there could be some...potential with that center screen on the controller, but it depends on what exactly it is. Is it a touchscreen? Will it have tracking capabilities? How user-customizable will it be?

Depending on what it is, it could have some functionality that the PS4's trackpad doesn't.

That being said, I still await the day we have a mainstream wireless controller with six face buttons with all of the benefits of a modern controller. As much as I love my Fighting Commander Pro's from HORI, they can't be used for every game. And I still think that the ultimate controller would be one that's modular to be as customizable as possible. Like, you know how pre-built PCs are looked down upon in the PC gaming community due to their past and current reputation (looks at Alienware, Cyberpower, Corsair's gaming PCs, etc..)? I think it'd be neat if someone made a controller that could be multi-functional depending on how many expansions and modules you put onto it, making it the most cost effective and expensive controller at the same time, except that the users get to decide what they want.

I think about too many things while driving to college while I wish I could just take online classes.

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You know, I've always been curious as to what they were trying to do with this controller. Like, did it have something to do with Sony's failed plans on integrating motion controls onto the main controller for the system before they came out with the Playstation MOVE, which, while it had better tracking than the Wiimotes from what I've heard, was too little, too late.

this will just go the way of ouya and steamboxes really.

FAST6191 · Jan 24, 2019

Silent_Gunner said:
These are concept images, yes?

While I think this console is going to go the way of other systems that aren't the big three (like the 3DO, CD-i, and the Amiga CD32), I do think there could be some...potential with that center screen on the controller, but it depends on what exactly it is. Is it a touchscreen? Will it have tracking capabilities? How user-customizable will it be?

Depending on what it is, it could have some functionality that the PS4's trackpad doesn't.

That being said, I still await the day we have a mainstream wireless controller with six face buttons with all of the benefits of a modern controller. As much as I love my Fighting Commander Pro's from HORI, they can't be used for every game. And I still think that the ultimate controller would be one that's modular to be as customizable as possible. Like, you know how pre-built PCs are looked down upon in the PC gaming community due to their past and current reputation (looks at Alienware, Cyberpower, Corsair's gaming PCs, etc..)? I think it'd be neat if someone made a controller that could be multi-functional depending on how many expansions and modules you put onto it, making it the most cost effective and expensive controller at the same time, except that the users get to decide what they want.

I think about too many things while driving to college while I wish I could just take online classes.

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[ps3 prototype boomerang banana controller]

You know, I've always been curious as to what they were trying to do with this controller. Like, did it have something to do with Sony's failed plans on integrating motion controls onto the main controller for the system before they came out with the Playstation MOVE, which, while it had better tracking than the Wiimotes from what I've heard, was too little, too late.

I am at something of a loss as well. It might be easier to hold one handed or if you have limited grip strength.

It sort of reminds me of some of the PC pads of the time (the 360 pad would later become the standard but it was still wild west and console-USB adapters at this point, such that that PC's lack of a controller was a bit of a running joke), and if someone had told me it was designed to be like those natural keyboards or ergonomic mice I could well believe it (it was 2005 it was unveiled some I am guessing no later than 2004 it was designed, and that was still in time to catch that fad).

As for six full size face buttons I am not going to be pushing for it. I will not dismiss such a thing but for the most part shoulder buttons and four full size face buttons do what I need, and have done since the 16 bit era.

If you are wanting such a thing you could probably find a controller s for the original xbox out there for pennies and their USB adapters are literally just wires (as in take a USB 2.0 extension, cut it open, cut the xbox controller lead open, solder like coloured wires to like coloured wire ignoring the yellow). Not wireless but do you really truly need such things? Alternatively there are some third party wireless versions of that which do well.

As for multi function controllers I dare say that is a similar line of thought to multi function phones. Nice idea but nobody will make it a reality, and nobody will do parts for them even if they were simple and flat like phones (trying to handle the curves of the average controller... no thanks). You can get somewhere with the old arcade buttons, though as I am thinking of that I recall some of the horrors we saw back when mame cabinets were still a bit of a hush-hush thing where people would try to cater to every game style, and possibly for four or even six players.

Deleted User · Jan 25, 2019

Calling it now. It will be the first 1000$ console.

FAST6191 · Jan 25, 2019

Ominous66521 said:
Calling it now. It will be the first 1000$ console.

Did not some of the Amigas end up there? Even more so if you account for inflation.

Bladexdsl · Jan 25, 2019

Ominous66521 said:
Calling it now. It will be the first 1000$ console.

the ps3 was that when it 1st released here

guily6669 · Jan 25, 2019

Maybe in your country here was like 500 or some crap because a friend bought it, basically a full month salary or more back then.

Theres countries that dont follow the rules, like in Brazil a PS4 used to cost like 4 or more minimum salaries back then and the Xbox was a lot cheaper because they produced it there. According to what I read, on Brazil its just corruption so the PS4 goes into a company, pay, goes to other company, pay and this continues until it arrives to the buyers that comes with like 5 extra taxes on it stupid government...

Deleted User · Jan 25, 2019

I thought it was clear that i was talking about 1000$ usd.We could compare currencys and it will either be more or less than what im talking about.

For example 1000 usd is equal to 3771 brl

guily6669 · Jan 25, 2019

They never ever do that... In fact when a console is announced as 400$ here its always 400€ which now is ~350.55€ and not 400€.

I never ever bought a product where the price was converted from dollars to euros (unless from like Ebay), either its the same in euros which ends up being way more expensive as our min salary now is around 600€ or its even pricier like PC stuff even if you find a GPU XXX for 250$ in US here usually goes to like 350€ if not more, Bloody bastards.

Anyway my last reply was for Bladexdsl, I never seen a 1000$\€ console here, and I agree with you that this console smells very expensive.

And about the PS4 I think it launched on Brazil for more than 4000 R$ or around that...

pedro702 · Jan 26, 2019

guily6669 said:
They never ever do that... In fact when a console is announced as 400$ here its always 400€ which now is ~350.55€ and not 400€.

I never ever bought a product where the price was converted from dollars to euros (unless from like Ebay), either its the same in euros which ends up being way more expensive as our min salary now is around 600€ or its even pricier like PC stuff even if you find a GPU XXX for 250$ in US here usually goes to like 350€ if not more, Bloody bastards.

Anyway my last reply was for Bladexdsl, I never seen a 1000$\€ console here, and I agree with you that this console smells very expensive.

And about the PS4 I think it launched on Brazil for more than 4000 R$ or around that...

its even worse switch was 300$ in us and europe it was 330 euros ...

Noctosphere · Jan 26, 2019

pedro702 said:
its even worse switch was 300$ in us and europe it was 330 euros ...

Switch is 400$ here in canada

pedro702 · Jan 26, 2019

Noctosphere said:
Switch is 400$ here in canada

400 canadian dollars is 302 us dollars so its basicaly the same price...

while 330 euros is 376 us dollars...

Noctosphere · Jan 26, 2019

pedro702 said:
400 canadian dollars is 302 us dollars so its basicaly the same price...

while 330 euros is 376 us dollars...

I still think 400 CAD is more expansive then 300USD
I mean, jobs wage is the same in canada and usa for the same job
so you need to work more hours in canada to get the same thing...

pedro702 · Jan 26, 2019

Noctosphere said:
I still think 400 CAD is more expansive then 300USD
I mean, jobs wage is the same in canada and usa for the same job
so you need to work more hours in canada to get the same thing...

i did online coin convertion and it isnt...

if you wanna talk about money wagers lol here in portugal our minimum wage montly is 600 euros now so a switch is more than half a paycheck.

but yeah 400 canadian dollars is 302 us dollars on todays es-change rate so it is the same price.

the switch is 330 euros in portugal where the minimum wage is 600 euros and its 330 in france and germany where theirs minimum wage is 3 times that ammount so yeah, but it is the same exact price same way for canada and usa.

Noctosphere · Jan 26, 2019

pedro702 said:
i did online coin convertion and it isnt...

if you wanna talk about money wagers lol here in portugal our minimum wage montly is 600 euros now so a switch is more than half a paycheck.

but yeah 400 canadian dollars is 302 us dollars on todays es-change rate so it is the same price.

the switch is 330 euros in portugal where the minimum wage is 600 euros and its 330 in france and germany where theirs minimum wage is 3 times that ammount so yeah, but it is the same exact price same way for canada and usa.

idr the minimum wage here in Quebec, because its a provincial issue in canada
but it's calculated by hours, here it's around 10-12$/h iirc

Kigiru · Jan 26, 2019

*Looks at minimal wage in Poland*
*Looks at what people gets to hand usualy*
Hehehe... now i see why gaming here is still so unpopular hobby.

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