Hacking Question Is Emunand really interesting if you only play games offline and don’t plan to downgrade?

The Real Jdbye · Jan 18, 2019

JBMario said:
Hi!

I am about to hack my Switch and was wondering if I should go the Emunand way or not. I don’t intend to play online. Plus, I see some people say that you should install Emunand so you can have the latest firmware, yet you don’t burn the fuses since you don’t upgrade the SysNAND. But I don’t plan to downgrade my Switch, or at least I don’t really see why I should...

So I am asking you: Emunand or should I stay with SysNAND directly? Thank you!

It still has some use in that it provides a bit of brick protection (well, if you have a NAND backup that you always keep safe and never lose, that accomplishes the same thing, but I know from experience that people frequently lose their NAND backups), and also if you ever decide to sell the Switch as long as you have kept the sysNAND clean it will be really easy to revert it to stock and safe for use online.

TPMJB · Jan 18, 2019

I'm sure it's interesting. But is it useful?

No

Nezztor · Jan 18, 2019

Lacius said:
No one has been banned yet for using the SX OS emuNAND, as far as I'm aware, but it's detectable in principle because it doesn't actually emulate the NAND partition properly.

We will see until someone is banned from using emunand offline and sysnand online then you are correct

xs4all · Jan 18, 2019

I'm on EmuNAND Offline for my dirty stuff and SysNAND for my legit stuff, online, etc.. not banned.

But on a serious and curious note, for us SX OS users, when on SysNAND, how easy is it for Nintendo to simply put a little code to check your SD CARD? If it sees you have boot.dat and license.dat then your flagged for ban while when it connects online? Trying not to jinx everyone but can they and will they? Or will this breach some privacy act of some sort.

Clapmaster · Jan 18, 2019

I've been using SXOS since July and haven't touched emunand. I don't see much point in it but that's just me.

Nezztor · Jan 18, 2019

xs4all said:
I'm on EmuNAND Offline for my dirty stuff and SysNAND for my legit stuff, online, etc.. not banned.

But on a serious and curious note, for us SX OS users, when on SysNAND, how easy is it for Nintendo to simply put a little code to check your SD CARD? If it sees you have boot.dat and license.dat then your flagged for ban while when it connects online? Trying not to jinx everyone but can they and will they? Or will this breach some privacy act of some sort.

Yes they can do that they didn't do it for 3ds and wiiu , so no reason for worry about that ,only the point of "can nintendo check another thing that is not on your nand ?" Is the real question

WiiUBricker · Jan 18, 2019

Lacius said:
No one has been banned yet for using the SX OS emuNAND, as far as I'm aware, but it's detectable in principle because it doesn't actually emulate the NAND partition properly.

Well duh, the point of emuNAND is to have it permanently offline while having sysNAND permanently clean for online. You’re guaranteed a ban at some point if you go online while your NAND is not clean. Doesn’t have anything to do with emuNAND in particular.

Maupiti · Jan 18, 2019

I went Emunand, mainly for the ‘safe’ purpose...I don.t go online, but I know my sysnand can’t brick ... If the Emunand bricks, easy to recreate....

SonyUSA · Jan 18, 2019

pworld said:
No, I say that you can have emunand 1 on your first sd card with party games, emunand 2 on your second sd card for single player games and emunand 3 on your third sd card for games other people should not know you play. So that depending on the audience, you only see the correct games

Or save those 32GB x 3 of space and just put all the games xD

pworld · Jan 18, 2019

SonyUSA said:
Or save those 32GB x 3 of space and just put all the games xD

Well, you might not have any SD card which is large enough for that :-)
And, like I said, the wasted space is much less as you can install games to the NAND

pLaYeR^^ · Jan 18, 2019

With emuNAND your sysNAND is protected from soft bricks on your emuNAND. The advantage of using SX OS is that you can use an external HDD instead of the micro sd card. For comparison: I bought an external HDD with 2 TB which is cheaper by more about half than a 512 GB micro sd card.

Halm · Jan 18, 2019

pworld said:
No, I say that you can have emunand 1 on your first sd card with party games, emunand 2 on your second sd card for single player games and emunand 3 on your third sd card for games other people should not know you play. So that depending on the audience, you only see the correct games

What? I didn't know that was possible. Is it just insert a new SD card each time and create emunand? (think my emunand is still on the NAND and didn't update to the newer SD based one)...

chrisisx said:
I actually planned to create emunand at first when it released so that i can install NSP (some games are NSP exclusives) but changed my mind after the NSP to XCI converter been released. Just make sure to stick with XCI and enabled stealth mode always on SXOS CFW (enabled by default) and you should be safe from BAN. You can even update all your XCI games in Sysnand (should be safe since i am still not banned since day 1) so you dont have to worry on games update.

So this would be how many months already?

xs4all · Jan 18, 2019

Halm said:
What? I didn't know that was possible. Is it just insert a new SD card each time and create emunand?

Yes you can create as much EmuNAND as you want on the SD CARD, only 1 EmuNAND on a SD CARD is permitted, so have multiple SD CARD if you want.

My main 400GB SD CARD is exFAT, I have another 64GB card which also have EmuNAND that is FAT32, this card is mainly used for Homebrew Apps, as there have been reports that exFAT is prone to corruption when using Homebrew apps, ie: Emulators, so I just swap out the SD CARDs depending what I'm doing.

Halm · Jan 18, 2019

xs4all said:
Yes you can create as much EmuNAND as you want on the SD CARD, only 1 EmuNAND on a SD CARD is permitted, so have multiple SD CARD if you want.

My main 400GB SD CARD is exFAT, I have another 64GB card which also have EmuNAND that is FAT32, this card is mainly used for Homebrew Apps, as there have been reports that exFAT is prone to corruption when using Homebrew apps, ie: Emulators, so I just swap out the SD CARDs depending what I'm doing.

How's the speed/performance of SD based emunand vs NAND based emunand?

snoofly · Jan 18, 2019

Personally, I’m not interested in online either so I’ve always simply updated thru the regular console update (never used Chou or emunand) to the latest firm, burnt fuses etc whenever SX OS supported it.
Never looked back as it does everything i want it to.

pworld · Jan 18, 2019

snoofly said:
Personally, I’m not interested in online either so I’ve always simply updated thru the regular console update (never used Chou or emunand) to the latest firm, burnt fuses etc whenever SX OS supported it.
Never looked back as it does everything i want it to.

The current atmosphere allows you to update officially without burning fuses, so you could just use atmosphere for updating and get fuse preserving practically for free (if you use AutoRCM), and you wouldn't have to manually enable AutoRCM again

(Btw: I think you mean latest gc firm, because how would you update if you are offline all the time?)

xs4all · Jan 18, 2019

Halm said:
How's the speed/performance of SD based emunand vs NAND based emunand?

I can't tell you, since I started using EmuNAND when it it was available as files on microSD as an option and when hidden partition was available.
You need two Switch's side by side and compare the loading times to really know what the speed/performance are, for me, day to day usage is fine.

Maupiti · Jan 18, 2019

xs4all said:
I can't tell you, since I started using EmuNAND when it it was available as files on microSD as an option and when hidden partition was available.
You need two Switch's side by side and compare the loading times to really know what the speed/performance are, for me, day to day usage is fine.

For me...no « measurable » differences of speed beetween sysnand (no games installed), and emunand on sd (with no games installed) ...playing with xci on sd...ans tested with games on emunand...everything works well...

chrisisx · Jan 18, 2019

Halm said:
What? I didn't know that was possible. Is it just insert a new SD card each time and create emunand? (think my emunand is still on the NAND and didn't update to the newer SD based one)...

So this would be how many months already?

i received my SX PRO around a week after it been released so around June last year and i am still not BAN till now.

Tigran · Jan 18, 2019

Can I use Atmosphere on an SX emunand?

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