Japan's Unfair Competition Law Amended. Save Editing now illegal.

Emenaria · Jan 4, 2019

SkittleDash said:
Japan has now made it illegal to save edit any game. No matter how little the edit may be, you could face 5 years in prison or fined ¥5,000,000. That's roughly $46,360. Maybe both if you're caught and found guilty.

This news is twisted. It's not like you can get caught for modifying your own save files/consoles.
These are what's been made illegal.
- Distribution of tools and programs for modifying game saves
- Selling product keys and serials online without the software maker's permission
- Game save and console modding services
As such, sales of products such as Pro Action Replay and Cybergadget's "Save editor" have been discontinued.
Sources: https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/abqpqo/save_game_editors_and_console_modding_services/
http://www2.accsjp.or.jp/activities/2018/pr6.php

KingVamp · Jan 4, 2019

Well, that still doesn't sound good overall.

Bladexdsl · Jan 4, 2019

only in japan...

DKB · Jan 4, 2019

damn japan just got nae'd nae'd

Burai-ha · Jan 4, 2019

So a mistranslation is now enough to turn a democratic country into a dictatorship. Wow.

kuwanger · Jan 4, 2019

It sounds less like a mistranslation to me and more like there's wording that's meant to be specific but is still incredibly vague: "the act of illegally obtaining specialized data provided by a partner who manages it in tandem with an ID or password has been newly positioned as an unfair business practice". From the wording, it'd apply as much to Facebook tracking users based on embedded Google IDs or the reverse. Really, the second an ID or password is involved, it sounds like any third party access not authorized would be illegal. Of course, this is going off yet another person's translation and legalize is like its own separate language. The notion that Japan wouldn't mean the worse interpretation because it's absurd ignores that even the US has pushed absurdly broad laws (DMCA) and then de facto not enforced it everywhere. Yet, even today we're having the problem that a coffee maker are trying to ban 3rd party refillable cups using the DMCA.

Jokey_Carrot · Jan 4, 2019

just because you paid for it doesn't mean it's yours, said absolutely no one

LightyKD · Jan 5, 2019

The whole, not being able to sell game keys is bull shit. Not many places will just give you a refund for a game key. I swear, the people of Japan are smoking something.

Pj1980 · Jan 7, 2019

They introduced the law to make it illegal to make money from editing saves or modifing game console hardware. The rules of the law are it's illegal to distribute save editors. Illegal to sell modified game hardware and illegal to charge a saving editing service. The law doesn't stop you editing your own saves or modifing your own console. You can still post how to edit a save but can't make save editor to send to others but can provide instructions for them to make their own editor or tell how to decrypt and encypt saves.

LuxerWap · Jan 8, 2019

I want them to enforce this rule. Nice job, Japan! You're starting to settle this out for the better!

deinonychus71 · Jan 8, 2019

Nope, it's not April 1st. Damn.

AlphaBravo · Jan 8, 2019

Wouldnt surprise me if its true as the japanese are often quite complicit towards authority and would see it as dishonorable to question these kind of laws. It could happen in the west to but no chance that you would face these kind of repercussions.

Redhorse · Jan 11, 2019

don't know if anyone's mentioned this yet or not, but I wonder if any of this is in response to things like Frogminer or games that save edits might apply to etc... now I realize they're (frog miner)not the same but, maybe they're 'closing a door before the cow leaves' regarding the switch

zoogie · Jan 11, 2019

Redhorse said:
don't know if anyone's mentioned this yet or not, but I wonder if any of this is in response to things like Frogminer or games that save edits might apply to etc... now I realize they're (frog miner)not the same but, maybe they're 'closing a door before the cow leaves' regarding the switch

Yah, its all Frogminer's fault.

the_randomizer · Jan 11, 2019

Lol good luck enforcing it, that'll be the day

lAkdaOpeKA · Jan 11, 2019

Now this is a stupid law
I can list so many legitimate reasons one would want to manually edit a save file

Superman321 · Jan 12, 2019

I think that this is stupid. I can understand they dont want that you cheat online but why?

Deleted User · Jan 17, 2019

Emenaria said:
This news is twisted. It's not like you can get caught for modifying your own save files/consoles.
These are what's been made illegal.
- Distribution of tools and programs for modifying game saves
- Selling product keys and serials online without the software maker's permission
- Game save and console modding services
As such, sales of products such as Pro Action Replay and Cybergadget's "Save editor" have been discontinued.
Sources: https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/abqpqo/save_game_editors_and_console_modding_services/
http://www2.accsjp.or.jp/activities/2018/pr6.php

It's still harsh but at least the end user who wants to optimise their Pokemon without hours of breeding and EV training can legally do so.

I think that in the country where Nintendo and Sony work fucking miracles for the economy they have gained a bit too much political power.

chrisrlink · Jan 17, 2019

ugh the day game companies own a freaking government will be the day everything goes to hell

Captain_N · Jan 21, 2019

Im gonna head to japan and edit some empire earth singleplayer saves and say "and what" I changed 1 bit on a 20 year old game that yall never even heard of...... They really cant police this you know. Really they should have passed "editing your saves on 3ds and nintendo switch gives us the right to brick your console." that would have made more sense...

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