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It is true that White people owned slaves, but what I tend to not like is the fact that many years later it is still okay to demonize the White person due to this fact. It was wrong, very wrong to submit black people to slavery. However, having the Liberals now using this to discriminate against whites is also not the right thing to do and is very, very wrong. Even the notion that it is discrimination seems as silly as goats flying to these people. It seems if though they don't even like their own skin color. However, if they are going to hold on to the past why don't they explain why their own party fought to keep slavery when the Republicans got rid of it? They will say that the Democratic party has changed. That's good. I'd hate to see their party fighting to keep slavery like they have already done. However, if they can change cannot they see that others have changed too.

I'm pretty sure every single race, at some point in history, has been a slave, it's not just black people.

And I'm also fairly confident, that one of the first recognized slave owners, was in fact, a black man.

It's still irrelevant though, slavery was abolished 153 years ago to the day, that's over a century, not a single effin' person is alive that lived through slavery, NOT A SINGLE ONE.
 
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I provided peer reviewed studies, unbiased research, and undebunked research. You linked me to two conspiracy theory blogs. The second of which spent more time ranting about PC culture than about race or IQ.


I think everyone can see what is going on here. One of us is camely using facts, backed up sources, logic, and reason to prove a point. The other keeps saying "dawg" and "I don't agree with that" lol.
Haha like I have said before just because someone has differing results does not make years and years of stats and data debunked. They are shown on those websites because you can't find anything but biased liberal bullocks on google anymore. If I want real unbiased results I have to go to duckduckgo.com and search. You haven't won anything and like I have said before past and current history shows that I'm correct. Blacks still get lower grades on average, still live in low income housing, commit more crimes, etc. It's right in your face whether people like to admit it or not.
 

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Haha like I have said before just because someone has differing results does not make years and years of stats and data debunked. They are shown on those websites because you can't find anything but biased liberal bullocks on google anymore. If I want real unbiased results I have to go to duckduckgo.com and search. You haven't won anything and like I have said before past and current history shows that I'm correct. Blacks still get lower grades on average, still live in low income housing, commit more crimes, etc. It's right in your face whether people like to admit it or not.
You're free to keep repeating yourself but you've already lost the debate. Whatever you have to say now is unimportant. You failed to falsify the fact that race science has indeed been debunked.
 

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You're free to keep repeating yourself but you've already lost the debate. Whatever you have to say now is unimportant. You failed to falsify the fact that race science has indeed been debunked.
I haven't lost the debate at all. Listing a few people who disagree with years of agreed upon research isn't debunking my friend.
 

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All of science does not disagree with me and I have showed statistics and data time and time again on differences in IQ and race but you just keep saying "ugh... I dont like the source and I dont like what it says so I'm gonna say it's not true and give this guy links of some people that say nah dawg that stuff isnt true".
There’s is a difference in IQ and Race which you can’t explain with heredity and environment.

Black Females are amoung the High IQ Blacks. IQ 140 and up females are 5 times more likely to be there then males. Both Male and Female come from the same race and grew up in the same homes. Hereditary and Environment doesn’t explain the differences.

From 1945-1995 Black IQ rose 16 points. Same race different generation. Race and Heriditary doesn’t explain why it rose.

You would have to explain these differences.
 
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Fixed it.

"Rushton and Jensen are well-known for research on racial differences in intelligence. Jensen hypothesized a genetic basis for Black-White IQ differences in his 1969 Harvard Educational Review article. His later books Bias in Mental Tests (1980) and The g Factor (1998), as well as Rushton's (1995) Race, Evolution, and Behavior, show that tests are not biased against English speaking minorities and that Black-White-East Asian differences in brain size and IQ belong in an evolutionary framework."
 

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This was a good attempt. Very long, but luckily I am a very good skimmer.

Excerpt - "Our conclusion, that the Black–White IQ difference is partly heritable, accords with previous analytic reviews of this literature. Loehlin et al. (1975) concluded that Black–White IQ differences “probably” reflected “genetic differences among the groups” (p. 238). P. E. Vernon (1979) tabulated 30 main topics, each scored on a 4-point scale, and concluded that “although the total number of items favoring genetic influences (G and G?) is roughly balanced by the number of environmental points (E and E?), more of the highly convincing items are G rather than E” (p. 319). The survey of over 1,000 experts in behavioral genetics and psychometrics by Snyderman and Rothman (1987) also found that a plurality believed the Black–White IQ difference “to be a product of both genetic and environmental variation” (p. 141). However, there are also notable statements to the contrary. The APA Task Force on intelligence, for example, concluded “[t]here is certainly no support for a genetic interpretation” (Neisser et al., 1996, p. 97). Likewise, Nisbett (1998) reached the conclusion that “the most relevant studies provide no evidence for the genetic superiority of either race” (p. 101). In our opinion, the present review, similar to those of Loehlin et al. (1975) and Vernon (1979) earlier, should be given greater weight because they surveyed a greater range of evidence."

So even if we take this old study at face value, they still couldn't come up a completely conclusive opinion because the now old and currently debunked evidence was still somewhat reputable at the time. In 2018 these studies that drove their conclusions are now debunked. They basically got their conclusions from others, and made an educated guess, that in 2018 modern science knows is wrong.


 
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This was a good attempt. Very long, but luckily I am a very good skimmer.

Excerpt - "Our conclusion, that the Black–White IQ difference is partly heritable, accords with previous analytic reviews of this literature. Loehlin et al. (1975) concluded that Black–White IQ differences “probably” reflected “genetic differences among the groups” (p. 238). P. E. Vernon (1979) tabulated 30 main topics, each scored on a 4-point scale, and concluded that “although the total number of items favoring genetic influences (G and G?) is roughly balanced by the number of environmental points (E and E?), more of the highly convincing items are G rather than E” (p. 319). The survey of over 1,000 experts in behavioral genetics and psychometrics by Snyderman and Rothman (1987) also found that a plurality believed the Black–White IQ difference “to be a product of both genetic and environmental variation” (p. 141). However, there are also notable statements to the contrary. The APA Task Force on intelligence, for example, concluded “[t]here is certainly no support for a genetic interpretation” (Neisser et al., 1996, p. 97). Likewise, Nisbett (1998) reached the conclusion that “the most relevant studies provide no evidence for the genetic superiority of either race” (p. 101). In our opinion, the present review, similar to those of Loehlin et al. (1975) and Vernon (1979) earlier, should be given greater weight because they surveyed a greater range of evidence."

So even if we take this old study at face value, they still couldn't come up a completely conclusive opinion because the now old and currently debunked evidence was still somewhat reputable at the time. In 2018 these studies that drove their conclusions are now debunked. They basically got their conclusions from others, and made an educated guess, that in 2018 modern science knows is wrong.

Haha it's not about superiority of a race but that there is indeed a difference in IQ and behavior based on race. It's not debunked just because some have found differing results.
 

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Haha it's not about superiority of a race but that there is indeed a difference in IQ and behavior based on race. It's not debunked just because some have found differing results.
The evidence that they based their conclusion off of was heavily debunked and is not even reputable nowadays. Notice how it's exceedingly hard to find recent peer-reviewed, unbiased, research that agrees with what you are saying? Even the link you provided me was A GOOD LINK, one that seemed to actually try to work with what was given. They still couldn't reach a 100% conclusion back then. It just doesn't hold up anymore.
 

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I'm sorry, it sounds like you are just trolling here, the fact of the matter is, white is a race, calling that woman a "White Bitch" is on the exact same level, she slurred her based on the color of her skin, therefore, ding ding ding, RACISM!.

See how that works? White people are a RACE of people, see there? I made the word bold for you, so you could understand, that racism is racism, racism isn't just "Whites being racist towards asians, blacks, latinos" it's someone purposely using RACE as a means to degrade.

This is the message I am trying to convey an no one is taking me seriously. It's like for some reason you cannot be racist against a white person and that racism against whites doesn't happen. TotalInsanity4 is a liberal and like most other liberals they think it's okay to demean their own race due to the fact it's a popular and acceptable thing to do. I sure hope he doesn't get his nose broken due to being white. He might change his mind - or he might just tell himself it was okay for the other person to break his nose based on the sole fact that he was white due to the fact that some time long ago someone he didn't know did something that his buddies didn't like.
 
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The evidence that they based their conclusion off of was heavily debunked and is not even reputable nowadays. Notice how it's exceedingly hard to find recent peer-reviewed, unbiased, research that agrees with what you are saying? Even the link you provided me was A GOOD LINK, one that seemed to actually try to work with what was given. They still couldn't reach a 100% conclusion back then. It just doesn't hold up anymore.

"According to J. Philippe Rushton, substantial racial differences do exist and their pattern can only be explained adequately from an evolutionary perspective."
All I'm saying is that to what I have researched and what certain scientists researched is that there are differences of IQ based on race. I'm not saying what you believe is wrong but that I have a difference in opinion.
I believe you can't find more on it because today that type of research is taboo.
 

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This is the message I am trying to convey an no one is taking me seriously. It's like for some reason you cannot be racist against a white person and that racism against whites doesn't happen. TotalInsanity4 is a liberal and like most other liberals they think it's okay to demean their own race due to the fact it's a popular and acceptable thing to do. I sure hope he doesn't get his nose broken due to being white. He might change his mind - or he might just tell himself it was okay for the other person to break his nose based on the sole fact that he was white due to the fact that some time long ago someone he didn't know did something that his buddies didn't like.
Look, you clearly have some deep issue. I apologize (UN - SARCASTICALLY) on behalf of all black people, for the actions of a random black person(s) that I have never, will never, or will want to ever meet. They should not have bullied you. I believe that bullying is one of the worse things that can happen to a person. I apologize if they said they did it because you were white. That can also mess a person up.

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"According to J. Philippe Rushton, substantial racial differences do exist and their pattern can only be explained adequately from an evolutionary perspective."
All I'm saying is that to what I have researched and what certain scientists researched is that there are differences of IQ based on race. I'm not saying what you believe is wrong but that I have a difference in opinion.
I believe you can't find more on it because today that type of research is taboo.
In other words "the Jews, Society, and Elites" are covering up race science? OK.
 

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"According to J. Philippe Rushton, substantial racial differences do exist and their pattern can only be explained adequately from an evolutionary perspective."
All I'm saying is that to what I have researched and what certain scientists researched is that there are differences of IQ based on race. I'm not saying what you believe is wrong but that I have a difference in opinion.
I believe you can't find more on it because today that type of research is taboo.

Dude. He's trolling you. He doesn't listen to facts. If you are going to persist to act the fool on his behalf why not take it to a private conversation?
 

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Look, you clearly have some deep issue. I apologize (UN - SARCASTICALLY) on behalf of all black people, for the actions of a random black person(s) that I have never, will never, or will want to ever meet. They should not have bullied you. I believe that bullying is one of the worse things that can happen to a person. I apologize if they said they did it because you were white. That can also mess a person up.

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In other words "the Jews, Society, and Elites" are covering up race science? OK.
You make wild assumptions. I showed my data, research, and statistics and I'm sticking to them.
I'm done.

Dude. He's trolling you. He doesn't listen to facts. If you are going to persist to act the fool on his behalf why not take it to a private conversation?
Yeah I'm done with it.
 
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Look, you clearly have some deep issue. I apologize (UN - SARCASTICALLY) on behalf of all black people, for the actions of a random black person(s) that I have never, will never, or will want to ever meet. They should not have bullied you. I believe that bullying is one of the worse things that can happen to a person. I apologize if they said they did it because you were white. That can also mess a person up.
Idk, I lived in Newport News Virginia early on in life in a heavily Black low-income neighborhood. I got bullied as well until I decided to stand up for myself and gave the nose breaking instead of receiving it (oddly enough I did in fact break the kids nose.) After that we became friends, and I got along well with everyone at school. The kids name was Ricky and we were inseparable in Cub Scouts after that.
 
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