It wouldn’t cost less if they are treating it like candy. It would cost more. Unless government refuses to pay for the costs then overall medical system would degrade like it has in Canada and Europe. And Canada treats it more like candy than the U.S.Thing is the people who use the healthcare system the most are the poor who flock to the ER - which is the most expensive place to receive healthcare.
And guess what, they can't pay that huge bill - so it ends up being footed by everyone else anyway.
As someone who worked as an EMT let me tell you, they already treat emergency medicine like it's candy. People would call because they fell over and needed help up, or because they got stung by a bee.
At least with universal care they could treat regular visits like candy - which would cost less.
The same way any other countries doso how are we gonna pay for said Universal health care?
We have more MRI’s and CT Scanners per million population in the U.S. then in Canada and U.K.
CT Scanners per million
7.5 in Britain
11.2 in Canada
32.2 in the United States
MRI’s per million
5.4 Britain
5.5 Canada
26.6 United States
This is just another sign of degraded medical care in Canada and Britain. They are unable to get latest tech.
Black markets are also common in U.K., Canada, Britain, Korea and Japan.
Hidden costs are also not counted in statistics. Like paying more to get ahead on the waiting lists. Since wait times are longer in those countries. And more money you loose if your out of work longer for waiting. Which is another hidden cost that is not counted in medical care statistics.
And it seems cheaper because they have more visits for half as long, then less visits for twice as long like U.S. does. So per visit costs appear cheaper in Europe since they spend less time with doctors. Less time cheaper costs. Longer time spent with doctor higher cost. But overall costs isn’t cheaper because of more repeated visits. Going for more visits then less to get the same work done I don’t think people would like that.
We also have more medical innovations compared to any other country in the world. U.S. is number 1 in this field. They are unable to fund research in other countries to the same level as U.S.
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We have more MRI’s and CT Scanners per million population in the U.S. then in Canada and U.K.
CT Scanners per million
7.5 in Britain
11.2 in Canada
32.2 in the United States
MRI’s per million
5.4 Britain
5.5 Canada
26.6 United States
This is just another sign of degraded medical care in Canada and Britain. They are unable to get latest tech.
Black markets are also common in U.K., Canada, Britain, Korea and Japan.
Hidden costs are also not counted in statistics. Like paying more to get ahead on the waiting lists. Since wait times are longer in those countries. And more money you loose if your out of work longer for waiting. Which is another hidden cost that is not counted in medical care statistics.
And it seems cheaper because they have more visits for half as long, then less visits for twice as long like U.S. does. So per visit costs appear cheaper in Europe since they spend less time with doctors. Less time cheaper costs. Longer time spent with doctor higher cost. But overall costs isn’t cheaper because of more repeated visits. Going for more visits then less to get the same work done I don’t think people would like that.
We also have more medical innovations compared to any other country in the world. U.S. is number 1 in this field. They are unable to fund research in other countries to the same level as U.S.
To be fair, Mitt Romney actually did run on a platform of healthcare reform and did have a hand in authoring the ACA if I remember correctly (although it would have been partially due to him that it ended up as conservative as it did). I also wouldn't have been particularly surprised if John McCain would have supported some form of healthcare reform. They're both DEFINITELY exceptions to the rule, thoughThis is a joke, right? When have Republicans ever made an honest attempt at passing any sort of healthcare reform? They'll attack whatever ideas the Democrats have, like single payer or Medicare for all, but they never have any ideas of their own. Republicans care far more about the insurance aspect of healthcare than anything else, which is exactly how Obamacare ended up so watered-down from compromise in the first place.
The ruling against Obamacare is flimsy at best and probably won't hold up anyway, but I'm perfectly fine with discussing the future of healthcare, because obviously it still needs changes. Just don't expect Trump to move on this at all before the next election. Remember that he's only passed one bill as president, and that was while he controlled all three branches of government.
Yeah I remember his own party attacking Romney over that, and the party was definitely against McCain by the time he passed too. Republicans shun anybody who doesn't prioritize corporate donors over all else.To be fair, Mitt Romney actually did run on a platform of healthcare reform and did have a hand in authoring the ACA if I remember correctly (although it would have been partially due to him that it ended up as conservative as it did). I also wouldn't have been particularly surprised if John McCain would have supported some form of healthcare reform. They're both DEFINITELY exceptions to the rule, though
Dear Barack Obama,
Obamacare is a failure. Obamacare was doomed to be a failure. Obamacare made compulsory Health insurance a band-aid over Health Care, but Health Insurance is not Health Care. The only system that would provide health care for all people in America is a system that specifically does something like that, like Universal Healthcare. There's nothing wrong with admitting your mistakes; it's important to acknowledge them if your desire is for the people you care about, not attempting to fulfill a Legacy; Jimmy Carter has accomplished many good things since leaving the Presidency.
Join the Republicans, Democrats, and Trump to Repeal and Replace Obamacare with Universal Healthcare. Make it clear that you'd joyously give Trump all the credit if he wants it if it means Universal Healthcare; Nixon passed many good laws. Advocate making Universal Healthcare a Constitutional Amendment. Stump for any Democrat or Republican will to support such legislation. Call out other Democrats who refuse to work with Republicans. Acknowledge criticism of not working well-enough with Republicans in the past, but make it clear you are putting the country first now and will work with anyone with the same goal. Advocate merging Medicare/Medicaid into Universal Healthcare. Make it clear that health care is an American responsibility, and it shouldn't be left up to individual States to control the flow of money to pay for health care nor to set requirements for licensing of doctors or nurses or restriction on services provided; yes, this means Universal Healthcare paying for abortions. Make it clear that so long as abortion is a legal medical procedure and deemed necessary, it is appropriate for Universal Healthcare to fund it like any other necessary procedure. Private hospitals and abortion clinics can continue to exist to allow for medical procedures deemed unnecessary or to expedite non-emergency care, to paid for by insurance or out of pocket.
Advocate to take steps to reduce the costs of health care by making more doctors available, bulk purchasing prescription, and other steps that other countries with Universal Healthcare engage in. This could include things like complete Federal management of student loan forgiveness for doctors and nurses, lowering residency requirements for doctors from countries with comparable health systems, requiring all public hospitals to run residency programs, and seeing what regulations are unnecessary or overly expensive and should be reworked or removed. Based on other Universal Healthcare systems, the money we spend on Medicare/Medicaid alone should be enough to cover nearly all the expenses of Universal Healthcare for all people in America; a slight tax increase may be necessary and the market correction will undoubtedly be painful, but it's a necessary step.
I believe fundamentally you are a pragmatist. However, there is nothing pragmatic in merely doing what seems possible today if your goal is a better future. What is pragmatic is to strive for the things that are really possible today and tomorrow. There's definitely a lot about the cost of and organization of health care I am not well versed enough in to fully flesh out the idea. It will take many people, both in the private and public sector to provide input. There are many example countries to look at on what we're doing wrong on cost. If there's one person's voice that will resonate the most, it will be yours to make clear that what matters more is not whether you have your name associated with something but whether what needs to be done is done.
I mean... I'm not gonna say that the ACA was perfect by any means, because I'd so much rather have properly-implemented single-payer healthcare. That said, it's still LEAGUES better than the for-profit healthcare system we've been stuck with up to that point, especially for the people who wouldn't otherwise have been able to afford private insurance.
Well... yeah, but [insert low-hanging fruit joke here], y'know? I get what you're saying, but that's really kind of because that actually is the case. And the more important point here isn't that Obama thinks Trump is incompetent (although he'd never say that out loud, those were the days), it's that Obama clearly doesn't care about credit for himself, he genuinely wants what he thinks is best for the nation.
That's... kinda shifting the topic of the conversation you started, but yes, you're right. There's really nothing that I disagree with here. And honestly that's what's going to HAVE to happen, because there's no plausible scenario in which I could see Donald Trump supporting universal single-payer healthcare
Have you seen the insurance rates lately, after the individual mandate was repealed? They're way the fuck higher. More importantly, pre-existing conditions were never covered before Obamacare, and they won't be again if it gets repealed. The fate of Obamacare is literally a death panel being held by Republicans for hundreds of thousands of Americans.It was so perfect that low-income and jobless people like were totally unable to afford ACA and get penalized for not being able to get insurance, thanks, Obama!
Yeah, fuck Obamacare
Wow do I have a bridge for you
It was so perfect that low-income and jobless people like were totally unable to afford ACA and get penalized for not being able to get insurance, thanks, Obama!
Wow, I have two. They're both very nice.
Uh, yea, part of that was why Medicaid was expanded in scope but a bunch of States refused the money because in the long term they'd be put on the hook for the larger pool that'd be eligible. Overall, I agree that such was an entirely stupid strategy because it relied upon State governments covering (a large part) of the poor and letting the market+insurers basically dictate the rates, which is fundamentally why all sorts of private+public systems in the US are so broken. Markets that know they can keep jacking up the rates and the government will just pay for it are a gold mine.
Obamacare was never billed as socialized healthcare. It started as single-payer and then slowly became watered down as Republicans complained about it not making them enough money. We just need Medicare-for-all and be done with it. It polls at like 70% approval, so obviously Republicans are against it in order to "own the libs." Just another issue, like weed, where they can't get out of their own way and refuse to stand on the right side of history.Yeah, it was so good I couldn't afford jack shit, yay for BS socialized medicine.
I don't understand your bias against Republicans... However, it definitely is not just their fault Obamacare came to be the nightmare it is.Obamacare was never billed as socialized healthcare. It started as single-payer and then slowly became watered down as Republicans complained about it not making them enough money. We just need Medicare-for-all and be done with it. It polls at like 70% approval, so obviously Republicans are against it in order to "own the libs."
It's not bias, I've simply accepted the fact that Republicans don't give a fuck about healthcare reforms of any kind. They're perfectly fine with the entire system being a drain on the economy and rejecting treatment for needful individuals as long as it means the right corporations are making money. They'll give it lip service and that's about it.I don't understand your bias against Republicans... However, it definitely is not just their fault Obamacare came to be the nightmare it is.
Obamacare was never billed as socialized healthcare. It started as single-payer and then slowly became watered down as Republicans complained about it not making them enough money. We just need Medicare-for-all and be done with it. It polls at like 70% approval, so obviously Republicans are against it in order to "own the libs." Just another issue, like weed, where they can't get out of their own way and refuse to stand on the right side of history.