Hacking Discussion is deja vu dead (on new units)?

alexj9626 · Dec 17, 2018

snuggles08 said:
The full exploit only worked on 4.1.0, but it's primary vector is a hardware bug like Fusee Gelee.

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Yes.

Ok thanks for clarifying that, but then is not """dead""" is just that it probably wont work on the new units. A little confusing tittle, but i get the point.

TotalInsanity4 · Dec 17, 2018

So Deja Vu isn't "dead," it's just public

YugamiSekai · Dec 17, 2018

MostGood said:
I've heard it only worked on 4.1.0, unsure if it works on 6.2.0

It's anything above 1.0.0 IIRC, anything above 4.1.0 requires extra permissions from the Switch

MostGood · Dec 17, 2018

kprovost7314 said:
It's anything above 1.0.0 IIRC, anything above 4.1.0 requires extra permissions from the Switch

So, can an exploit for patched switches above 4.1.0 in the future be cfw compatible because of this exploit or no? sorry for the noob questions im new to the switch hacking scene

leo60228 · Dec 17, 2018

alexj9626 said:
Ok thanks for clarifying that, but then is not """dead""" is just that it probably wont work on the new units. A little confusing tittle, but i get the point.

TotalInsanity4 said:
So Deja Vu isn't "dead," it's just public

Added more clarification. It's just as dead as Fusee was in July, it just hasn't actually been fixed yet.

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MostGood said:
So, can an exploit for patched switches above 4.1.0 in the future be cfw compatible because of this exploit or no? sorry for the noob questions im new to the switch hacking scene

Yes, but Deja Vu had two components. It had a software component (which was patched in 5.0.0) and a hardware component (which can only be patched in new switches). We need a replacement for the software component, and even then, the hardware component was the most important part.

alexj9626 · Dec 17, 2018

snuggles08 said:
Added more clarification. It's just as dead as Fusee was in July, it just hasn't actually been fixed yet.

Yeah i know what you are saying. I just think the term "dead" would refer to other stuff happening. Like, Fusee is not "dead", just public.

For me dead would be that is not longer usable. It would be dead for Mariko units, but again, this is just a discrepancy in use of the word dead.

Still, thanks for the info.

TotalInsanity4 · Dec 17, 2018

snuggles08 said:
Added more clarification. It's just as dead as Fusee was in July, it just hasn't actually been fixed yet.

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Yes, but Deja Vu had two components. It had a software component (which was patched in 5.0.0) and a hardware component (which can only be patched in new switches). We need a replacement for the software component, and even then, the hardware component was the most important part.

Oh wait, Deja Vu had a hardware exploit? I thought it was purely software

leo60228 · Dec 17, 2018

TotalInsanity4 said:
Oh wait, Deja Vu had a hardware exploit? I thought it was purely software

That was intentionally kept quiet to avoid it getting fixed/looked for by Nintendo.

Treeko · Dec 17, 2018

I don't know if I am out of the loop of things going on in the scene, but wasn't this exploit reported to nintendo for their hacker bounty program before this was made public?

ZachyCatGames · Dec 17, 2018

snuggles08 said:
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leo60228 · Dec 17, 2018

Treeko said:
I don't know if I am out of the loop of things going on in the scene, but wasn't this exploit reported to nintendo for their hacker bounty program before this was made public?

No, that was a completely different exploit.

Treeko · Dec 17, 2018

snuggles08 said:
No, that was a completely different exploit.

Then this is a big oof from whoever made the commit to hekate.

guicrith · Dec 17, 2018

Treeko said:
Then this is a big oof from whoever made the commit to hekate.

Nah, Im thankful, hopefully the old switchs will get untethered boot now instead of waiting indefinitely.

leo60228 · Dec 17, 2018

guicrith said:
Nah, Im thankful, hopefully the old switchs will get untethered boot now instead of waiting indefinitely.

It's untethered, but not cold boot. More like the good old MSET hacks from the 3DS days.

guicrith · Dec 17, 2018

snuggles08 said:
It's untethered, but not cold boot. More like the good old MSET hacks from the 3DS days.

Thats fine, so it just has to boot twice, once to normal mode then to CFW.

leo60228 · Dec 17, 2018

guicrith said:
Thats fine, so it just has to boot twice, once to normal mode then to CFW.

Exactly.

MostGood · Dec 17, 2018

guicrith said:
Thats fine, so it just has to boot twice, once to normal mode then to CFW.

But would we need to send it a payload everytime we power it on?

guicrith · Dec 17, 2018

MostGood said:
But would we need to send it a payload everytime we power it on?

No, thats the point, its untethered.

MostGood · Dec 17, 2018

guicrith said:
No

Then that would make this exploit better than the old RCM exploit.

alexj9626 · Dec 17, 2018

guicrith said:
No

Yes? Like, powering on (OFW) and then using the exploit (to go to CFW). No dongle/PC payload, but we do need to send it. I think?

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