Gaming Smash Ultimate C2C-version is bad. 25E version is not a "frankenbuild".

NeoSlyde

Let us start the game
Banned
Joined
Mar 6, 2015
Messages
1,899
Trophies
0
Location
Morocco
XP
2,565
Country
France
Hashes for safe .nsp versions

MD5 = 25E8328F47D3A1EBFE5A4197814D9B62

SHA-1 = 1439B3A746543B55DD29E5B21747A7D76CDB7FE8

CRC32 = DDD3AC39

Hashes for safe .xci versions

MD5 = 9535cfffea0eac7a7bcadae91efbf64f

SHA-1 = DD55C317C0319396668F01CFFADCB99F2E0A667D

CRC32 = D8F74213

or

MD5 = 629b5537f0179b8ea3a2ce9bbe66ddf6

SHA-1 = 1882f9b6f0fcba0041fe2f97af0c438b9c6c260f

CRC32 = 5b97b994

NOT MY WORK COPIED but this should help maybe

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

i have 2 hashs the 25E8328F47D3A1EBFE5A4197814D9 AND THEN 3D9E1DD1052389F366FBEE48915A4BD
sha256
5361F1196FD101E0A5B7F509BD

--------------------- MERGED ---------------------------

the safe hash u listed the size is (14638711424 bytes)
but the other one i have is (14638708796 bytes)
Nah nah
 

Hexalform

Well-Known Member
Newcomer
Joined
Jun 27, 2018
Messages
47
Trophies
0
XP
1,285
Country
United States
Not sure if this means anything, but when booting into the C2C2 one after the first battle in Adventure mode it crashed and gave me error "2162-0002" on Atmo 0.7.5 / Firmware 6.1 (updated with Choi). Then, when hard turning off (AutoRCM is on) I tried injecting Atmo again and it gave me some error similar to "Unable to inject eMMC" (I didn't quite grab what it said since I panicked, hard reset, re injected, and everything seems to work fine (10+hrs of play so far)) Obviously I have a couple of NAND backups, but still.

*edit*
Or is this is even the right thread to post this in. Don't think it means anything, but haven't seen many other people having similar crashes so thought it was weird.
 
Last edited by Hexalform,

NeoSlyde

Let us start the game
Banned
Joined
Mar 6, 2015
Messages
1,899
Trophies
0
Location
Morocco
XP
2,565
Country
France
B2425063-8238-459F-A63A-5FED0B5487A6.jpeg


We can close the thread now.
 

SomeGamer

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Dec 19, 2014
Messages
6,827
Trophies
1
XP
4,902
Country
Hungary
View attachment 150338

We can close the thread now.
I still don't get how a build which has garbage data after encrypted data can be considered more stable. That extra data can't be valid as we can see the game boots fine just fine without it. If you just stripped the end of an encrypted blob it wouldn't boot at all.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rawrkanos

NeoSlyde

Let us start the game
Banned
Joined
Mar 6, 2015
Messages
1,899
Trophies
0
Location
Morocco
XP
2,565
Country
France
I still don't get how a build which has garbage data after encrypted data can be considered more stable. That extra data can't be valid as we can see the game boots fine just fine without it. If you just stripped the end of an encrypted blob it wouldn't boot at all.
It’s the manuals and some extra things
 

Rawrkanos

Member
OP
Newcomer
Joined
Nov 25, 2018
Messages
14
Trophies
0
Age
37
XP
102
Country
United States
It’s the manuals and some extra things
Could you please read the thread, or even just look at the images before you say that? I'm tired of arguing this shit with people who didn't even do the bare minimum of "looking at the information I put together"-efforts.

After extracting the NCAs only two files have any differences. The main.npdm file has a single byte that's changed, and the cmnt file has several differences. Whereas before extracting the NCAs, three clearly have garbage data / suspect data appended at the end of them. One is the exact same between files, the 100mb NCA, and the main game-NCA is different but I don't have enough ram to compare them in a viewable way with WinMerge.

They are, functionally within the extracted data, nearly the exact same however C2C has very clear signs of being the frankenbuild, thus all the garbage-data on the NCAs.

Who's gonna be the next person to come into this thread going "Well these guys say otherwise" without actually reading anything, first?
 
Last edited by Rawrkanos,

Rawrkanos

Member
OP
Newcomer
Joined
Nov 25, 2018
Messages
14
Trophies
0
Age
37
XP
102
Country
United States
Can this thread get locked? Thanks.
If you ever provide proof of your claims, I'd be happy to delete it myself. It's been how many hours since you were first challenged to do that, exactly?

Just to be clear, sure-maybe there is nothing harmful in either, but C2C still is pretty bunk and bullshit-looking. Frankenbuild-y as fuck.
 

blahblah

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
May 16, 2018
Messages
1,132
Trophies
0
Age
35
XP
1,472
Country
United States
If you ever provide proof of your claims, I'd be happy to delete it myself. It's been how many hours since you were first challenged to do that, exactly?

Everything I said is backed up by technological fact and the contents of the copies. All has been proven. You remain wrong & defeated.

Stop using the term ‘frakenbuild’. That would only be valid if the game contents were different. There are more than a few DS scene releases with garbage data included after the file system ends; that is not terribly dissimilar to what we have here. The ‘issue’ does not relate to the actual usability of the dump.
 
Last edited by blahblah,
  • Like
Reactions: NeoSlyde

blahblah

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
May 16, 2018
Messages
1,132
Trophies
0
Age
35
XP
1,472
Country
United States
Again, I'm not a switch-scientist. And it's clear you aren't either because all you say is "this is fact, TRUST ME I KNOW THESE THINGS! I talk to people who examine stuff. I'm bigly smart about switch stuff! That's all the proof you get."

When you can explain, with screenshots to show how, 16kb of data appended to an encrypted NCA that is otherwise identical to a provably functional NCA and how it isn't harmful, then you have grounds to call yourself an expert. Insisting on being right without proving it is childish. I'll keep pointing at the encrypted NCAs with extra data being byte-for-byte identical for the majority of their contents up to the end as a reason to think C2C is a frankenbuild until then.

If you don’t know the technical stuff at hand, don’t speak.

Everything I say can be backed up by you doing research. It’s all basic computer stuff. I do not have the ability (or the time) to prove to you that computers work the way I say they do. Ask someone else who knows things, they will vouch for my posting.

That has already been proven. I’ve explained how many times. It’s not a screenshot thing, it’s a computer science thing. Garbage data that the game does not call out to in effort to do ??? with is not dangerous, as it is not invoked by the game. As the game contents - the stuff that is actually running, the exefs and romf contents - are both the same, both copies are functionally the same and both are safe*. The end, buddy. Don’t reply again unless you got an IDB of some malware.

*that is not actually why. both are the same and the executable has been pulled apart and inspected for malware. none was found, and the executable in question was sourced from a signed Nintendo package.
 
Last edited by blahblah,

Rawrkanos

Member
OP
Newcomer
Joined
Nov 25, 2018
Messages
14
Trophies
0
Age
37
XP
102
Country
United States
If you don’t know the technical stuff at hand, don’t speak.
Me: "It's a frankenbuild."
You: "It has garbage data so it's fine."
Me: "It's a frankenbuild."
You: "Wow you're stupid."
Mods: "Stop bickering, you salty fucks."

Garbage data shows suspect origin.

Even if it's perfectly harmless, it's still better to go with 25E. Is that inaccurate?
*that is not actually why. both are the same
It's the pedant in me that says the byte-change and different cnmt file after extraction mean it's not the same, but yeah that means it isn't the same. 99.9999% of the data is identical, of course.
 
Last edited by Rawrkanos,

blahblah

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
May 16, 2018
Messages
1,132
Trophies
0
Age
35
XP
1,472
Country
United States
Me: "It's a frankenbuild."
You: "It has garbage data so it's fine."
Me: "It's a frankenbuild."
You: "Wow you're stupid."
Mods: "Stop bickering, you salty fucks."

Garbage data shows suspect origin.

Even if it's perfectly harmless, it's still better to go with 25E. Is that inaccurate?

A frakenbuild would require modified game contents. What you are describing matches many unnuked DS scene releases. Garbage data does not indicate anything of value. Valid game contents = valid game contents. First working wins, this isn’t no-intro.

I’m going back to bed. See you in a few hours, surely still fighting in this very thread.
 
Last edited by blahblah,

arabtm

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Feb 1, 2007
Messages
161
Trophies
1
XP
1,525
Country
Indonesia
hello.

I downloaded the C2C2F8FC8E1986357484D083F94C2DAD version (I don't really care anymore of which one is which), but I can't seem to make it run on atmosphere. it always say data corrupt. so, I just revert back to ReiNX and it works fine, but I prefer to run atmosphere CFW.

Does anybody know how to make it run on atmosphere? any help is appreciated. thanks!
 

NeoSlyde

Let us start the game
Banned
Joined
Mar 6, 2015
Messages
1,899
Trophies
0
Location
Morocco
XP
2,565
Country
France
hello.

I downloaded the C2C2F8FC8E1986357484D083F94C2DAD version (I don't really care anymore of which one is which), but I can't seem to make it run on atmosphere. it always say data corrupt. so, I just revert back to ReiNX and it works fine, but I prefer to run atmosphere CFW.

Does anybody know how to make it run on atmosphere? any help is appreciated. thanks!
There was a patch posted on gbatemp check for it
 

arabtm

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Feb 1, 2007
Messages
161
Trophies
1
XP
1,525
Country
Indonesia
There was a patch posted on gbatemp check for it

hi.thanks for the reply, but I can't seem to find the thread. I put any search keyword that I can imagine, but it only show up debate threads on different versions. could you kindly link me to the post? thanks in advance
 

Hexalform

Well-Known Member
Newcomer
Joined
Jun 27, 2018
Messages
47
Trophies
0
XP
1,285
Country
United States
hi.thanks for the reply, but I can't seem to find the thread. I put any search keyword that I can imagine, but it only show up debate threads on different versions. could you kindly link me to the post? thanks in advance

It is running fine for me on Atmo 0.7.5, the patches I got were just bundled with it from https://www.sdsetup.com/ (just make sure to check "Enable Signature Patches" when you select Atmosphere.)
 

NeoSlyde

Let us start the game
Banned
Joined
Mar 6, 2015
Messages
1,899
Trophies
0
Location
Morocco
XP
2,565
Country
France

arabtm

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Feb 1, 2007
Messages
161
Trophies
1
XP
1,525
Country
Indonesia

ah. this patch. I thought it has something to do with the game.
I simply downloaded KOSMOS package, so I thought I already have everything, because other games seems to work. but thanks again! I'll check the thread.

It is running fine for me on Atmo 0.7.5, the patches I got were just bundled with it from https://www.sdsetup.com/ (just make sure to check "Enable Signature Patches" when you select Atmosphere.)

Hi. Thanks for this. I used KOSMOS, because I didn't manage to access sdsetup, since my anti virus seems to be incompatible with the website. but I'll check again. thanks for the help!
 
  • Like
Reactions: NeoSlyde

arabtm

Well-Known Member
Member
Joined
Feb 1, 2007
Messages
161
Trophies
1
XP
1,525
Country
Indonesia
so..I checked my atmosphere directory, and it does have ..\atmosphere\exefs_patches\Signature Patches by Rajkosto,with 9 .ips files. do I also need to have kip_patches\fs_patches in atmosphere directory too?

because KOSMOS or SDsetup only gave me the atmosphere with exefs_patches, while the linked thread also contains exefs_paches and kip_patches

hmm...atmosphere is confusing. I do wonder why ReiNX can automatically run the game.
 

Site & Scene News

Popular threads in this forum

General chit-chat
Help Users
    K3Nv2 @ K3Nv2: 10 tabs open on chrome and no slow downs suck it low ram ple bs lol