Team-Xecuter Presents SX OS v2.3 BETA

mattytrog · Nov 19, 2018

Ev1l0rd said:
Side note to anyone here; It's no longer speculation. Hexkyz's tweets basically confirmed said suspicions making it no longer a case of me having to speak in "seems" and letting me say this with absolutes.

This is the same "emuNAND" hackjob from 2.0, just moved to the SD card. Using this will eventually corrupt your SD cards filesystem due to constant read/writes which will if interrupted (which is very easy to occur and can happen on accident) corrupt your entire SD cards filesystem, which if not fixed in time (and it's entirely possible to not notice until it's too late) will corrupt your entire SD card, which will brick your emuNAND and any titles installed on the SD from the sysNAND. A true emuNAND does not risk corrupting the entire filesystem because it exists outside of the filesystem (in free space).

w/r/t Nintendo's driver being shitty licensed from Microsoft, it's only an argument to actually not support the exFAT filesystem, but I can pretty safely say that that probably won't be done given how many users seem to think exFAT is awesome.

"A true emunand system"..

For fucks sake... I've heard enough. I'm no fan of either sxos or open sores.

But this is getting ridiculous.

The open sores people are really boiling my piss with this "stolen" and "proper solution" rubbish. Tell you what... Where's your fucking solution?

Any SD card has the potential to become corrupted. It is how Nintendo has implemented exfat.

Even the great hexxyz whatever his name is doesn't have a better solution.

This is a similar situation to the Greeks and the Romans. The Greeks did all the technology, but had no follow through did they? It took the Romans to put it all together and make something.

Emmc emunand = a community first. Not good enough.

SD emunand = still not good enough in spite of not having a better solution.

Tell you what, it's not hard to see why people start hating Foss...

Ev1l0rd · Nov 19, 2018

mattytrog said:
"A true emunand system"..

For fucks sake... I've heard enough. I'm no fan of either sxos or open sores.

But this is getting ridiculous.

The open sores people are really boiling my piss with this "stolen" and "proper solution" rubbish. Tell you what... Where's your fucking solution?

Any SD card has the potential to become corrupted. It is how Nintendo has implemented exfat.

Even the great hexxyz whatever his name is doesn't have a better solution.

This is a similar situation to the Greeks and the Romans. The Greeks did all the technology, but had no follow through did they? It took the Romans to put it all together and make something.

Emmc emunand = a community first. Not good enough.

SD emunand = still not good enough in spite of not having a better solution.

Tell you what, it's not hard to see why people start hating Foss...

Except we know what a legit emuNAND should function and look like. Look at the 3ds and the Wii U. Those are what Switch emuNAND will look like as well when a proper one finally releases. That is what a proper emuNAND is. A NAND space existing outside the SD cards filesystem. (Formatting the SD is done to do this on 3DS so that the NAND could be copied over and a new partition can be added after the free space to prevent writing to it.)

An emuNAND like that is what a "good emuNAND" is and what is being worked on by the developers of Atmosphere for the emuNAND release.

Something which, might I add, TX actively works against in the release of their emuNAND by forcibly disabling the layer they were planning on using to make use of the emuNAND (hypervisor). (This if I'm not mistaken would mean that using TXs bootloader to launch a future AMS emuNAND wouldn't work as it is right now, but I'm not 100% on this.)

Lol -> exFAT. This issue literally doesn't exist in what I described since you're not bloody using any filesystem with such a method.

Come with valid arguments instead of twisting my arguments into something they aren't.

johnsnow · Nov 19, 2018

Wow. Have you ever heard of a sectormap?

gizmomelb · Nov 19, 2018

Essasetic said:
Still doesn't excuse the fact that you didn't warn any exFAT users from not using the solution knowing full well what could happen if something went wrong.

warning!! look both ways before crossing the road.
warning!! do not breathe in while drinking.
warning!! eating too many crayons will give you an upset stomache.

will you just fuck off already? seriously I've read like 10 pages of BULLSHIT from you this morning.. you must be unemployed.

Essasetic · Nov 19, 2018

gizmomelb said:
warning!! look both ways before crossing the road.
warning!! do not breathe in while drinking.
warning!! eating too many crayons will give you an upset stomache.

will you just fuck off already? seriously I've read like 10 pages of BULLSHIT from you this morning.. you must be unemployed.

I said I was done. Besides some people didn't know exFAT cards could cause corruptions.

gizmomelb · Nov 19, 2018

Ev1l0rd said:
Except we know what a legit emuNAND should function and look like. Look at the 3ds and the Wii U. Those are what Switch emuNAND will look like as well when a proper one finally releases. That is what a proper emuNAND is. A NAND space existing outside the SD cards filesystem. (Formatting the SD is done to do this on 3DS so that the NAND could be copied over and a new partition can be added after the free space to prevent writing to it.)

An emuNAND like that is what a "good emuNAND" is and what is being worked on by the developers of Atmosphere for the emuNAND release.

Come with valid arguments instead of twisting my arguments into something they aren't.

This is a first BETA release in SX OS version 2.3

There may well be the separate partition (and maybe then all the haters will shut the fuck up about exFAT - which is NINTENDO's fault) in BETA 2.4

But I'm sure you'll find something else then to whine about.

This forum needs a filter for users, so you can filter ignore the whiny arseholes out of forum threads and hopefully read more informational posts.

Ev1l0rd · Nov 19, 2018

gizmomelb said:
This is a first BETA release in SX OS version 2.3

There may well be the separate partition (and maybe then all the haters will shut the fuck up about exFAT - which is NINTENDO's fault) in BETA 2.4

But I'm sure you'll find something else then to whine about.

This forum needs a filter for users, so you can filter ignore the whiny arseholes out of forum threads and hopefully read more informational posts.

Profile -> ignore.

You can thank me later.

jaysea · Nov 19, 2018

Got the black screen issue aswell on emunand
Replacing the boot0.bin and boot1.bin from a sx os backup didn't work.
Replacing the boot1.bin and boot0.bin by the BOOT0 and BOOT1 from a hekate backup makes the emunand work.

TheZander · Nov 19, 2018

What's the consensus on this after 27 pages? From what i can glean is that because this method doesn't format a partition on the sdcard like 3ds and wiiu it will be price to not working?

fatterdude2000 · Nov 19, 2018

For those interested in gamecard slot update protection...

I am pleased to say I updated emunand to 5.1 with ChoiDujourNX (superb tool). I booted into emunand (no cart inserted) restored backup of Mario Odyssey using checkpoint and played for a few seconds.
Booted back into sysnand 3.0.0 and tried my Zelda cart. Worked fine. Sorry if this has been covered before but thought I'd mention it as I know a few others were interested.

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fatterdude2000 said:
For those interested in gamecard slot update protection...

I am pleased to say I updated emunand to 5.1 with ChoiDujourNX (superb tool). I booted into emunand (no cart inserted) restored backup of Mario Odyssey using checkpoint and played for a few seconds.
Booted back into sysnand 3.0.0 and tried my Zelda cart. Worked fine. Sorry if this has been covered before but thought I'd mention it as I know a few others were interested.

Don't leave the cart in when booting into emunand though.. I forgot and cardslot now updated. doh.

jakkal · Nov 19, 2018

Listen can we please have these attention seeking idiots go away and stop trying to derail the thread

We get it, you don't like tx and Sx os will erase all our data. We're fine with that. We've made backups ok.

Now please fuck off and go find something more productive to do.

I really don't get why these idiots are so concealed. Use your atmosphere and be happy with it. We chose to use Sx os

End of rant. Now go away

Dissaor · Nov 19, 2018

So, is it safe to use sd card emunand or not?

jakkal · Nov 20, 2018

Dissaor said:
So, is it safe to use sd card emunand or not?

For me it's safe. I've heard people mention sd corruption because of exfat. I've never had any corruption and I've been on exfat since the day the first update came out. I've used all kinds of homebrew, emulators including retronx and retroarch.

I think these idiots are just trying to spread fud because they're sorry losers who hate tx

Dominator211 · Nov 20, 2018

What is exactly...
Im just cinfused becuase it mentions NSP and USB in the same sentence but does this mean we can finally load NSP from USB?

Added more directories to scan for content
By popular demand we have added yet another list of subdirectories that will be scanned on your microSD card (or USB harddisk) for XCI/NSP/homebrew. The directories that have been added are:

– /sxos/updates
– /sxos/dlc
– /switch/updates
– /switch/dlc

Dissaor · Nov 20, 2018

jakkal said:
For me it's safe. I've heard people mention sd corruption because of exfat. I've never had any corruption and I've been on exfat since the day the first update came out. I've used all kinds of homebrew, emulators including retronx and retroarch.

I think these idiots are just trying to spread fud because they're sorry losers who hate tx

Them Im gonna backup my saves, format the console set up the emunand on SD Card, and pay for the online, since Im not banned.

mattytrog · Nov 20, 2018

Ev1l0rd said:
Except we know what a legit emuNAND should function and look like. Look at the 3ds and the Wii U.

What about them? Different architectures and filesystems. What should a "legit" one look like? You seem to know... So... Where is it? On your Git?

Ev1l0rd said:
Those are what Switch emuNAND will look like as well when a proper one finally releases. That is what a proper emuNAND is. A NAND space existing outside the SD cards filesystem. (Formatting the SD is done to do this on 3DS so that the NAND could be copied over and a new partition can be added after the free space to prevent writing to it.)

So, in a nutshell, you want it put in its own partition. Then it will be "legit". Despite any inherent risks not being minimised due to writing to same SD card... Moving on...

Ev1l0rd said:
An emuNAND like that is what a "good emuNAND" is and what is being worked on by the developers of Atmosphere for the emuNAND release.

Very good. I look forward to the release.
However, I didn`t realise you had travelled through time. So presumably you know EXACTLY how this young scene will pan out. Therefore you knowing how much of a "shitty job" TX made of this implementation. I assume you have actually studied the unpacked binary, decrypted. You wouldn`t be someones parrot on their shoulder by any chance?

Ev1l0rd said:
Something which, might I add, TX actively works against in the release of their emuNAND by forcibly disabling the layer they were planning on using to make use of the emuNAND (hypervisor). (This if I'm not mistaken would mean that using TXs bootloader to launch a future AMS emuNAND wouldn't work as it is right now, but I'm not 100% on this.)

Sources? Evidence? Not parrot evidence... What have YOU personally seen? I would like to ask you a couple of questions on this later...

Ev1l0rd said:
Lol -> exFAT. This issue literally doesn't exist in what I described since you're not bloody using any filesystem with such a method.

Come with valid arguments instead of twisting my arguments into something they aren't.

Really trying to understand... However I am struggling...
ExFAT does seem to have issues.

and the last line...

Ouch sister!

<puts on camp voice with stupidly sharp and long sssssss`s>
You bitch, I`ll scratch your eyes out. Meaow.

jakkal · Nov 20, 2018

Dissaor said:
Them Im gonna backup my saves, format the console set up the emunand on SD Card, and pay for the online, since Im not banned.

Thats exaclte what I did last night.
Make sure you back up your license.dat file

_hexkyz_ · Nov 20, 2018

mattytrog said:
Even the great hexxyz whatever his name is doesn't have a better solution.

Sheesh, is it that hard to get my name right? I mean, I know it's not pretty but...

Anyway, fwiw, I didn't state nor think that SX's emunand will corrupt your SD card even more so than official software already can do.

I do believe there is a "better" (this is obviously subjective), but also more complex, way to achieve NAND emulation which will make it's way into Atmosphère.

jakkal · Nov 20, 2018

_hexkyz_ said:
Sheesh, is it that hard to get my name right? I mean, I know it's not pretty but...

Anyway, fwiw, I didn't state nor think that SX's emunand will corrupt your SD card even more so than official software already can do.

I do believe there is a "better" (this is obviously subjective), but also more complex, way to achieve NAND emulation which will make it's way into Atmosphère.

No one cares enough to spell your name right

_hexkyz_ · Nov 20, 2018

jakkal said:
No one cares enough to spell your name right

It was a joke...

You don`t want to listen to anything I say.

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