Nintendo wins legal case over ROM site, site owner ordered to pay $12 million in damages

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Earlier this summer, Nintendo filed a lawsuit against Jacob Mathias, otherwise known as the owner of LoveROMS and LoveRETRO, sites that notoriously hosted ROM files of retro Nintendo games. Immediately following the legal suit, both of the aforementioned domains were shut down to prevent further issue. Nintendo's legal action also had effects on other websites that had illegal content hosted on their servers, such as Emuparadise, which removed all download links shortly after the lawsuit was made public. Mathias and his wife, who were both charged on mass copyright infringement, plead guilty to the actions of trademark infringement and damages to Nintendo. They then entered settlement talks in order to find an agreeable amount of money to pay as reparations. Today, the final judgement for the case came in, showing that both Jacob Mathias and Nintendo had agreed for the former to pay $12,230,000 to the latter, over 12 million dollars.

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All copyrighted material owned by the couple must also be forfeited, and ownership of LoveROMs.com and LoveRETRO.co has been signed over to Nintendo of Japan.

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I think people are missing the fact that $12M damage isnt just for Nintendo...
The thing is majority of these games are from 3rd party companies and developers, meaning Nintendo will also be sharing that $12M to the related 3rd parties... the violator isnt only paying Ninty, he's paying every single active party thats related to the library he uploaded
 

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That guy can move to cananda or else where, the u.s court not gonna extract or force him to pay then
 

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It's not like there's a legal way to pay Nintendo to play N64 games besides the limited selection of virtual console stuff. Pretty much all the retros are simply not profitable for them anymore because they don't even sell them (again, besides VC & stuff like that), so it honestly makes no sense for them to be bothered enough to ruin a man's life with debt he will most likely never pay off.

EDIT: Now I'm real curious, is there truly no way to anonymously register a domain and host a site?
I just did a few months ago, it's called offshore/anonymous hosting and is often paid in cryptocurrency.
 
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Thank you for sharing this. Service is exactly what piracy is about. I remember reading studies on piracy that I can't recall 100% but they came to very interesting conclusions.
  • people have an unconscious limit of money they're willing to spend on entertainment, they're not spending less even when pirating
  • because people who pirate will spend about the same as they would if they wouldn't pirate they end up investing more into things like hardware, going to movie theaters, going to concerts, etc.
From a content producer's point of view, a better service is exactly the right response to mitigate this as has been demonstrated by Netflix or Spotify. No one ever talks about how Kodi / XBMC + pirated content has been THE definitive solution for a home entertainment a few years ago. Or how iTunes + pirated MP3s was really good.
Asking people to use a worse experience with more effort involved like keeping a library of physical media, having to search through it by hand, inserting the media into a "player device", having to seek through a DVD to pick up where you left off watching on a different device and such for the sole reason of it being the proper and legal way is just unreasonable. I know plenty of people who downloaded pirated copies of content they already had just because they didn't want to go through the hassle of seeking out a DVD and putting it into a drive or even going through transcoding a DVD.

The gaming industry will sooner or later arrive at the same conclusion as there's no way to stop piracy of retro games. If Nintendo isn't willing to do that then that's their loss.
 

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first nintendo boycotting rom sites and now sony acting like nintendo... and nintendo acting like sony.... WTF is going one here!?!
 

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Wow, i've neevr liked LOVEroms ( they gave me a virus when i tried to download Pokemon Silver 8 years ago )

But 12 Mil? That's insane. Thats more money than they prolly made with those actual games. Money greedy fugs want to milk them dry.

They'll be going after Pokecommunity next, or GBAhacks.

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Wow, i've never liked LOVEroms ( they gave me a virus when i tried to download Pokemon Silver 8 years ago )

But 12 Mil? That's insane. Thats more money than they prolly made with those actual games. Money greedy fugs want to milk them dry.

They'll be going after Pokecommunity next, or GBAhacks.
 
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I just did a few months ago, it's called offshore/anonymous hosting and is often paid in cryptocurrency.

Who the hell is that in the Twitter pic? And I suppose that's one way to make things harder to trace.

Moral of the story: Don't be illegal. Life is so simple really.

Moral of the story is, don't be a brand loyalty shill, don't act like Nintendo is completely infallible and innocent, they've failed to deliver on adequate digital services.
 
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For anyone interested I used this site to game, and it's good, supposedly the founder "Rents" games to people on the site, so he should be legal https://www.vizzed.com/
also the reason for the attack on LoveROMS may be because the NES and SNES classic edition is making sales, who knows, GBA may be next and they didn't want any site hosting the games. (If helpful please like :D).


Eeeewwwww streaming singleplayer games get that shit outta here
 

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Nintendo is the worst shit! Of damn company that I will ever buy something from them... they fuck every good deed from them... Hail the fallen ones, we will remember you as heroes and not cowards as ninth... fuck them all!, from now own I am going to take everything free and not paid. Fucking damn losers!
 

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