Nintendo wins legal case over ROM site, site owner ordered to pay $12 million in damages

Langley911 · Nov 13, 2018

ShadowOne333 said:
I bet you the money the guy made out of it doesn't even come close to 10k per year.

Really?
Suing for 12 million just because of 40 or so games that they have re-released with both NES/SNES classics combined?
What about 90+% of the library to which they don't own the full rights to? They can't claim rights about those, not even close. if at all less than 5% of the library is done specifically by them alone.
And what about N64, GB/C/A, DS titles which they haven't rereleased at all in current gen?
The same applies for them not owning the copyrights to 90% of the library of said consoles.

It's complete bullshit.
They can protect their property but at least give the fanbase and clients a way to purchase them legally in a digital format.
The ONLY way to get the so called "retro" games from Nintendo is by a rental service today.
You don't even own shit anymore because it's all a rental service, how fucked up is that?

Yet people continue to blindingly pay their bullshit services (which offer nothing new at all compared to what emulators have been doing for decades now), and even more bullshit is the fact that people stupidly keep paying for the same fucking games over and over again with each generation of consoles.

And then Nintendo goes and sues ROM sites left and right?
If they weren't such draconian and greedy assholes, and offered the people what they want for once and a way to get their games/ROMs legit, this wouldn't happen.

Good luck trying to get a copy of EarthBound for less than 150 bucks, because that's the only way you'll get the game now since you don't own a thing with this new rental service of shit.

wise words have been spoken

lordelan · Nov 13, 2018

ShadowOne333 said:
I bet you the money the guy made out of it doesn't even come close to 10k per year.

You might be true, who knows ...
The site was poisoned with ads over and over. It even installed extensions to your browser if you were not smart enough.

ShadowOne333 · Nov 13, 2018

lordelan said:
You might be true, who knows ...
The site was poisoned with ads over and over. It even installed extensions to your browser if you were not smart enough.

Oh yeah I remember that haha.
He did went a little overboard with ads at one point, but I get it.
Fortunately, I use Linux, so I run no risks of getting viruses at all

smf · Nov 13, 2018

ShadowOne333 said:
And then Nintendo goes and sues ROM sites left and right?
If they weren't such draconian and greedy assholes, and offered the people what they want for once and a way to get their games/ROMs legit, this wouldn't happen.

It's capitalism for you. If you want communism then there are countries you can go to which offers you that.

ShadowOne333 · Nov 13, 2018

smf said:
It's capitalism for you. If you want communism then there are countries you can go to which offers you that.

Time to host romsites in China and Russia then :^}
Let's see how Nintendo tries to take action on those lol

leon315 · Nov 13, 2018

godreborn said:
I've always been a Nintendo fan, but not so much after a recent phone conversation. I called to complain that three games wouldn't let me redeem coins (giving different errors), this is seventy cents of coins minds you, but it was the principle of the thing that was important. anyway, Nintendo seemed reluctant to give me those coins as if I was lying for a measly seventy cents. their fuck up, and I'm the one to pay for it. Nintendo has become, or perhaps always was, a greedy, very greedy company.

DUDE, MAYBE u bought those preowned switch games and coins are already claimed.

smf · Nov 13, 2018

ShadowOne333 said:
Time to host romsites in China and Russia then :^}

What do you mean time to? Only an idiot would host a romsite in america, running payment processing and advertising through america as well (or any european country as well).

The crap he installed on your pc was another nail in his coffin for me.

China may not be a good target though, they have introduced IP laws to maintain trade deals with the west.

tiamat999 · Nov 13, 2018

DarkIrata said:
Ok, let me get this straight. Around 90% of the people which posted to this thread are butthurt over a sued by nintendo rom page, which most of them doesn't even knew before? From where i get the information? Read the thread that was made when the lawsuit started.
What makes it even better how all of you prise rom downloads and hating on Nintendo for DOING THERE JOB SO THEY DOEN'T GET SUED FOR TRIPPEL THE AMOUNT. How the fk people forget that gbatemp also once hosted roms and stoped it to become a place to talk / share about stuff like homebrews, news and so on.

Now let me explain how basic copyright in most use cases work.
Bob developes something. Bob has full rights on what he developed. He publishs it by himself on a way how he makes profit out of it. 50 Years passes. Bob never selled the main rights to what he created, but never updated trademarks or similar things. Other people can make somethign similiar and share it for free, BUT THEY CAN NOT SHARE THEY EXACT THING, A COPY, of what Bob made. They don't have the rights on it.
If Bob shared the rights with Alice who published it for him and get a part of the earnings, good for Bob. But when the contract ends, Alice has not anymore the rights to sell Bobs creation, even if Bob would still make profit out of it. Since Alice doesn't have any legal rights to share it anymore, they can't republish it anymore and need to make a new deal with bob.

Ffs, there are reasons why Nintendo doesn't throw around with Roms and Emulators. They still have to protect the rights from the original creators.

Tldr;
People made shit for money, if you have a problem they make use of there rights, go beat someone up and look how it will workout for you.

Goood sometimes this page....

EDIT: Oh and the high amount to pay. Probably calculated by downloads per rom * rom price and some other things. His own fault. He knew what he was doing. So don't say it is Nintendos fault.

Nah fuck nintendo

ShadowOne333 · Nov 13, 2018

smf said:
What do you mean time to? Only an idiot would host a romsite in america, running payment processing and advertising through america as well (or any european country as well).

The crap he installed on your pc was another nail in his coffin for me.

China may not be a good target though, they have introduced IP laws to maintain trade deals with the west.

Yeah with that I agree.
He was pretty naive to host everything in the US, he should have hosted it somewhere else in Asia and behind proper security for the web.

MarkPrime24 · Nov 13, 2018

What will happen if he didn't able to pay the amount??

MrMcTiller · Nov 13, 2018

MarkPrime24 said:
What will happen if he didn't able to pay the amount??

Possible jail time?

MarkPrime24 · Nov 13, 2018

MrMcTiller said:
Possible jail time?

Nintendo Owns many grossing franchises like Pokemon,Zelda or Mario..and has a net worth of near 65 billion.They shouldn't do that to him

Fates-Blade-900 · Nov 13, 2018

So... time to watch walkthroughs instead of playing the games? (Stupid).

SonicRings · Nov 13, 2018

Nintendo, if you aren't gonna let people pirate your games, at least let us fucking buy them from the Virtual Console! Why is this still not a thing?
I guess they just don't want us playing their games ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Fates-Blade-900 · Nov 13, 2018

Well many games is impractical to play now, like FE6 (since it's japan only) if you don't already have the rom.

dmace81 · Nov 13, 2018

Jesus christ! I can just see it now they will start paying Internet providers to search out people who download roms and fine them!

Fates-Blade-900 · Nov 13, 2018

dmace81 said:
Jesus christ! I can just see it now they will start paying Internet providers to search out people who download roms and fine them!

I think some internet providers are already doing that, like AT&T, but then again I'm not sure.

supersonicwaffle · Nov 13, 2018

SG854 said:
For the people that say there is no benefit on old games, why then does Nintendo go through all this legal trouble fighting it?

There's a problem where if Nintendo were to tolerate the redistribution of its games while it can be assumed they know about it, that they may lose an argument in court because a certain amount of trust has been establish that Nintendo tolerates these practices.

They basically have to at least symbolically show that they're fighting against it.

AdenTheThird · Nov 13, 2018

Good grief. So shutting the site down wasn't enough?

invaderyoyo · Nov 13, 2018

Just goes to show that just because it's the law, it doesn't mean it's necessarily right or fair.

Nintendo was absolutely within their legal right to do this. $12 million is ridiculous, though.

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