Nintendo wins legal case over ROM site, site owner ordered to pay $12 million in damages

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Earlier this summer, Nintendo filed a lawsuit against Jacob Mathias, otherwise known as the owner of LoveROMS and LoveRETRO, sites that notoriously hosted ROM files of retro Nintendo games. Immediately following the legal suit, both of the aforementioned domains were shut down to prevent further issue. Nintendo's legal action also had effects on other websites that had illegal content hosted on their servers, such as Emuparadise, which removed all download links shortly after the lawsuit was made public. Mathias and his wife, who were both charged on mass copyright infringement, plead guilty to the actions of trademark infringement and damages to Nintendo. They then entered settlement talks in order to find an agreeable amount of money to pay as reparations. Today, the final judgement for the case came in, showing that both Jacob Mathias and Nintendo had agreed for the former to pay $12,230,000 to the latter, over 12 million dollars.

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All copyrighted material owned by the couple must also be forfeited, and ownership of LoveROMs.com and LoveRETRO.co has been signed over to Nintendo of Japan.

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damn no wonder nobody's dumping let's go (well i shouldn't say that 100%) whats next ban on vpn's and cryptography in the USA if thatt comes to be I'm rallying a war against my own country this shit will not stand with me ANY LONGER
 

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You guys really don't get the point. He made money off of those ROMs, and it's Nintendo's Intellectual Property, they can charge what they like. You being angry at Nintendo has no justification. That's exactly what you get when you get caught pirating stuff. Don't expect it to be a walk in the park. And on top of that, both parties settled on that amount, meaning there's a reason for that being charged enough. Don't be so shallow and go off immediately without looking at everything.
 

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Wow. The ignorance is strong in this thread. Where could Ninty claim such an amount? Where can you buy those games? Let's just take 5 seconds to google 1 headline...

"The NES Classic is so popular it outsold the PS4, Xbox One, and Switch in June"

Each and every one of you idiots crying on this thread know it's illegal. The site owner knew it was illegal. Probably had the same "It won't happen to me" attitude that each and every one of you has. But go you... be a rebel...
 
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Wow. The ignorance is strong in this thread. Where could Ninty claim such an amount? Where can you buy those games? Let's just take 5 seconds to google 1 headline... got it.

"The NES Classic is so popular it outsold the PS4, Xbox One, and Switch in June"

Each and every one of you idiots crying on this thread know it's illegal. The site owner knew it was illegal. Probably had the same "It won't happen to me" attitude that each and every one of you has. But go you... be a rebel...

Wow, the NES classic, huh? That has, what 30 games, out of about 670 ever released in NA alone? What a selection! Sorry, but collecting and paying inflated prices to collect games is just BS, would be better to get more first party games legally through the eShop, but oh no, Nintendo had to be pantywaists about that too. There's so much potential, they could make so much money from this, but again, they're gonna just sit on asses doing nothing but trickle three games per month. Whoop dee doo.

30 games out of 670 is only about 4% out of the entire library. Please.
 

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Wow. The ignorance is strong in this thread. Where could Ninty claim such an amount? Where can you buy those games? Let's just take 5 seconds to google 1 headline...

"The NES Classic is so popular it outsold the PS4, Xbox One, and Switch in June"

Each and every one of you idiots crying on this thread know it's illegal. The site owner knew it was illegal. Probably had the same "It won't happen to me" attitude that each and every one of you has. But go you... be a rebel...
no one is necessarily being ignorant here and while yes it was illegal it does make one question the hardship of what that family has to pay if that rev they got was miniscule to what they gonna pay to Ninty even if it is their own fault. Also not having a way to legally buy these old games from the actual devs to support them is an argument of its own
 
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tbh this guy had that kinda money I doubt he would still be running a rom site, nintendo and this guy know they are never going to get anywhere near 12 million, they will just drain any savings and properties he might happen to have and he will file bankruptcy and start over, which sure will still be absolutely devistating to the site owner but hopefully they can move on with their life and not be too badly hurt in the process

these huge settlements are just for the press to buzz around because the reality of "guy looses his $7000 in savings" doesn't exactly draw in the crowds, nintendo probably spent 10 times that on lawyers and litigation
 
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I never did weigh in on the morality of hosting roms. I just stated that companies don't care about preservation. Ideally, I'd say I'd want to see the hosting site just try to recoup hosting costs. The upkeep to provide the doorway for gamers to play older games.

For old games that have no rerelease, it isn't as if the original company can even get through the licensing to rerelease them or would they make money from someone buying a used copy.
Piracy websites don't give a fuck about game preservation and surely they don't care about you either. It's maximum profit with minimum effort. Profit for what, anyway? Hosting a bunch of roms? Torrents exist.

Had these sites ever cared about "preservation", they would have an adfree website with a link for donations, or maybe just a tiny shady banner ad. You can make several thousand dollars a month with this kind of websites even if you're the billionth one on the black market. But I advise against it, for the only reason that other piracy website owners will DDoS the shit out of your little website or even try figure out who you are and harm you.
 
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How did they even come up with the 12 million? I mean, put together all of the AVAILABLE titles by Nintendo currently on WiiU/3DS/Switch and I HIGHLY doubt the sales are anywhere close to that.
Yeah, I also doubt they are anywhere close to that. They're probably much, much higher
 

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Piracy websites don't give a fuck about game preservation and surely they don't care about you either. It's maximum profit with minimum effort. Profit for what, anyway? Hosting a bunch of roms? Torrents exist.

Had these sites ever cared about "preservation", they would have an adfree website with a link for donations, or maybe just a tiny shady banner ad. You can make several thousand dollars a month with this kind of websites even if you're the billionth one on the black market. But I advise against it, for the only reason that other piracy website owners will DDoS the shit out of your little website or even try figure out who you are and harm you.

Do you think Nintendo cares about preservation then? They sure as hell don't, just look at how much the NES Online and VC selection suck ass. If they did, they'd actually put forth effort, but they won't. To me, it sounds like it's better for ROM sites to die off than to count on Nintendo doing the same.
 

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Do you think Nintendo cares about preservation then? They sure as hell don't, just look at how much the NES Online and VC selection suck ass. If they did, they'd actually put forth effort, but they won't. To me, it sounds like it's better for ROM sites to die off than to count on Nintendo doing the same.
If you care so much about game preservation you can torrent out your romsets. Just remember that's illegal.
 

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Complete bogus.
Practically ruin the guy's life because he allowed some 10 year olds to play unobtainable games from 20 years ago on their computer.
It's not like Nintendo would be 12 million dollars richer if it weren't for the site.

When this happens it makes me want to refrain from purchasing any Classic Mini consoles, Virtual Console titles, or retro compilation games because it's these re-releases that are causing these take downs to happen.
 
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I used to be a Nintendo strong supporter, but bs like this in years has made changing my mind. Now I don't care about them too much. They don't even produce the great games as they did in the past. There are a few exceptions, just not enough.
 

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