Hacking Question AutoRCM still drains battery when turned off by hekate 4.2. Any ideas ?

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Like i said, i was using autorcm in the past 2 till i switched over the a reed switch. Best thing i did so far with the system, i would advise everybody to do that or a button
 

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AFAIK the issue with autoRCM is that the Switch turns itself on again by itself within 15s of being turned off when it has autoRCM, and obviously enters RCM mode, but it keeps the screen dark because it can't progress in the boot sequence, and won't recharge while in RCM mode since it is waiting for USB input.

How to solve this: remember to press the power button again a minute after turning off any switch with AutoRCM enabled; pressing the power button while in RCM mode will turn off the switch for real. If you want to test if it's turned off, you can connect it to the PC/Android/charged up SXOS dongle/whatever you use and try to send a payload to it. It's why I connect my SXOS dongle before turning off my Switch to remove the SD card from it, the screen lighting up with the "no boot file" warning makes me aware I need to turn it off again.
 

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I never use AutoRCM but I also almost never let my Switch turn off or run out of battery by itself. The only time I turn it off is when I need to put new games on there or if there's a CFW update.

Thankfully I've never had any crashes or auto-reboots due to errors.
 

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Well, I recently bought and hacked my Switch. I came to know that AutoRCM is MANDATORY. I updated using ChoiDujourNX from 4.1.0 to 5.1.0. Keeping AutoRCM on prevents my Switch from booting into stock Horizon, which I am being told that if my Switch did that, it would burn the efuses. AutoRCM prevents that from happening. I have been told that as long as I go from ReiNX to Hekate and then use Hekate to power off the Switch, it'll be fine. The Switch won't drain battery.

Today is literally my second day with a hacked Switch. Will play after work tonight. Let's see how it goes :)
 
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I've seen a lot of various issues people have had which has kind of put me off tbh. I may use it at some point, but I'm going to hold out as long as I can.


Honestly I love RCM and would use it on all my switches - All they need to fix is the battery drain while black screened and battery dying and cant charge without disabling RCM first witch only has happened to me on a couple units. Don't know if these are fixable but once you know how it works / doesn't work then it's pretty easy and so worth it.

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I hate to say it, but AutoRCM just sounds better than using a stupid dongle.

Why would you hate to say it? 99.9% of people who use auto RCM have no problem with it, the .01% don't read and either turn their switch off normally and the battery drains or they have no idea what it actually does and freak out when their switch won't turn on with the power button anymore.
It's perfectly safe and there's 2 people I've seen now spreading info that it's dangerous and probably have never even used it themselves
 
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Why would you hate to say it? 99.9% of people who use auto RCM have no problem with it, the .01% don't read and either turn their switch off normally and the battery drains or they have no idea what it actually does and freak out when their switch won't turn on with the power button anymore.
It's perfectly safe and there's 2 people I've seen now spreading info that it's dangerous and probably have never even used it themselves

Because there are people on here bitching that it's bad for the battery, etc.
 
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Okay after 40+ switch mods

All CFW drain with Autorcm on - Its due to power off not turning off completely so your switch will have a black screen but is in fact on

You have to ways to defeat this:

1) Hold power and go into sleep mode - This is quickest way and works perfect for me on Hekate 4.2 with 6.01 switches - 5% battery drain every 24 hours

2) Power off like normal - Power on and hold - (hekate) and wait for boot / options - Go to power off and power off

These methods have worked for me and Autorcm is what it is - You just have to kbnow how to use it
How do you charge your Switch with AutoRCM enabled? Using your second option, can you charge it while off if you had it plugged in prior to turning off?
 
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How do you charge your Switch with AutoRCM enabled? Using your second option, can you charge it while off if you had it plugged in prior to turning off?


I always charge it while its on unless it dies completely. If it dies completely I first try holding power for 12-15 seconds then charging. If that don't work I have to disable rcm charge then enable rcm.
 

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I always charge it while its on unless it dies completely. If it dies completely I first try holding power for 12-15 seconds then charging. If that don't work I have to disable rcm charge then enable rcm.

I would have to assume that the Switch will work without a battery when plugged into the wall? Otherwise how the heck do you accomplish unsetting RCM if it won't turn on?
 
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I would have to assume that the Switch will work without a battery when plugged into the wall? Otherwise how the heck do you accomplish unsetting RCM if it won't turn on?


Using Trinket Mo so with + or - on boot depending on your cfw or a Jig and i'm back into hekate settings. With the picky Switchs I use spare battery to get them back up and running, this saves me a bunch of time. They usually charge without disabling RCM but takes a long time.
 
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Honestly I love RCM and would use it on all my switches - All they need to fix is the battery drain while black screened and battery dying and cant charge without disabling RCM first witch only has happened to me on a couple units. Don't know if these are fixable but once you know how it works / doesn't work then it's pretty easy and so worth it.

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I heard rumblings last week that we are extremely close to a coldboot solution and that in fact Xecuter had a solution in their possession which would make autoRCM obsolete. But if they release it, they do themselves out of money for their dongle. But we shall see...it may be that someone else leaks it in the coming weeks. I like the principal of autoRCM, just not all the fuckery involved in fixing the battery issues.
 
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AutoRCM is a lazy solution that comes with a slew of problems, and is well known to. Either learn to mod the joy-con with a reed switch (or regular switch, whatever you want), or get a jig. Is it a bit more inconvenient to use a jig? Yes and no. You have to remove the right joy-con, use it, and then put the joy-con back on. But to me that's way less inconvenient than all these AutoRCM threads popping up with a thousand different issues.
 

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I heard rumblings last week that we are extremely close to a coldboot solution and that in fact Xecuter had a solution in their possession which would make autoRCM obsolete. But if they release it, they do themselves out of money for their dongle. But we shall see...it may be that someone else leaks it in the coming weeks. I like the principal of autoRCM, just not all the fuckery involved in fixing the battery issues.

Are you able to elaborate a little more on this or is that pretty much everything you heard ?
 

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I hate to say it, but AutoRCM just sounds better than using a stupid dongle.
But you still need the dongle (if no pc, phone, internal modship) to inject the payload afaik...

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How do you charge your Switch with AutoRCM enabled? Using your second option, can you charge it while off if you had it plugged in prior to turning off?
Yes , shutting down with charger or dock connected PRIOR... will charge the switch
 
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I'm using AutoRCM so the Switch doesn't accidentally turn on (press button when grabbing it, "just" putting it on the charger, etc.) and have the nintendo loader burn my efuses. I want to go back to 2.3.0 (with a working gamecard controller firmware) once Dejavu (+ a real EmuNAND) is released.
 

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Are you able to elaborate a little more on this or is that pretty much everything you heard ?

Unfortunately that's all I heard. I heard that Xecuter are reluctant to release the information, which on one hand is a dick move but on the other it would affect their business and fair play to them, they are supporting their product pretty well with the various updates. Still part of me hopes that someone does leak it, if it is indeed true.
 
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Here's the lesson to learn from this:

Do.

Not.

Ever.

Use.

AutoRCM.

EVER!!!

I have my hacked Switch in the dock at home atm charging, and if I can get it to boot into RCM and get into Horizon, I should be fine, but unfortunately, if TegraRCMSmash wants to keep being a colossal PITA, I may have to take apart BOTH of my Switches, swap the batteries, and cook the dead battery with Darth Sidious' Force Lightning, because it's painful to not take part in some of these updates and to be afraid that what may be the portable system to end all portable systems when hacked is giving me the middle finger because of a headache-inducing flaw where the rate at which the battery will charge, if it even charges at all, is dependent upon functions built into the OS, and not anything like Qualcomm's QuickCharge (or whatever the standard is called) function.

I been using autorcm for awhile now without a single hiccup. I'm not sure Why you would think this.

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You fail son...

If using a dongle, autorcm is advised against for this reason as without the exploit (fusee) triggering after shutdown (the mini power-on), which is needed to correctly shut down the system.

People who say autoRCM is dangerous need a poke in the eye.

Not dangerous.

And only an inconvenience at the very worst even if you are stupid.

True story bruh.
 

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As usual, misinformation and false statements about autoRCM...
There is absolutely no reason to says that autoRCM drains the battery: it doesn't. It's a very simple 1 byte or so boot partition modification, which is static and doesn't imply anything in Horizon or any CFW for the good reason that its impact is at boot to enter RCM mode.
This thread is useless as usual: no proper data or proof provided, no proper reading of what is RCM mode and what does autoRCM.

Either your switch is powered on under RCM mode or in the OS, or it's not. Period.
If it's powered off, no battery drain is possible except the regular infinitesimal losses that you experience on any battery powered device.
 
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