nx-hbloader updated to version 2.0.0, now has full access to RAM

JokerJoester · Oct 18, 2018

ihaveamac said:
The issue with exFAT is in Nintendo's drivers, and not something that libnx/etc. can solve.

I'd hate to be that person, but I have been using exFAT perfectly fine on my Switch?

CobraX83 · Oct 18, 2018

I also have all homebrew and backups working fine on exFAT with a 400 GB SD card.

JokerJoester · Oct 18, 2018

CobraX83 said:
I also have all homebrew and backups working fine on exFAT with a 400 GB SD card.

Could you link which 400GB card you have? I have a 256GB but I can't help but feel like it still isn't enough

CobraX83 · Oct 18, 2018

JokerJoester said:
Could you link which 400GB card you have? I have a 256GB but I can't help but feel like it still isn't enough

SanDisk Ultra that was on sale for $80 or so at Amazon a couple weeks ago.

Rahkeesh · Oct 18, 2018

JokerJoester said:
I'd hate to be that person, but I have been using exFAT perfectly fine on my Switch?

You're fine for now, and maybe the next several years. Multiple people have reported being hit by the problem eventually and lost everything on their SD card, and the cause of that is known by homebrew devs. You do what you like but there's still a significant risk here.

Clydefrosch · Oct 18, 2018

JokerJoester said:
I'd hate to be that person, but I have been using exFAT perfectly fine on my Switch?

exfat corruption appears to be a slowly and ongoing process.
it apparently mainly happens when you exit homebrew through the home button (instead of a valid build in exit option) or when homebrew crashes and might only get unnecessary files corrupted sometimes too.
like, a handful of nes roms you might not ever check again. or some nsp files of a game you haven't played in a while.
the more you exit wrong, the more likely you're to break a relevant file and eventually notice.

Rahkeesh · Oct 18, 2018

JJO192 said:
Am I right in assuming that the mupen64plus core will now run with the nro and not require an installed nsp?

Maybe a question for the Retroarch thread.

Retroarch and any other homebrew needs to be specifically updated for this in order to take advantage of the extra RAM. So probably not yet.

Deleted User · Oct 18, 2018

Good News indeed!

Switchtime · Oct 18, 2018

ihaveamac said:
The issue with exFAT is in Nintendo's drivers, and not something that libnx/etc. can solve.

The problem is on booth sides! exFat works under Nintendo software the way it should (NSP) and Nintendo will certainly not fix that. As long as HBLoaders handles the termination of an NRO as a crash it is clear that the data will be damaged. But I still hope that it will be fixed elsewhere:

http://douevenknow.us/post/178903213313/nintendo-switch-kernel-patching-and-emulation

That would solve the problem, as homebrew software is handled just like nintendo software. So you don't have to crash NROs anymore if you want to quit them.

SimonMKWii · Oct 18, 2018

2Siralv said:
i tried to install it with tinfoil it wouldnt let me it says to put it into atmosphere/hbl.nsp or is that wrong?

This isn't meant to be used as an installable NSP, it's merely a PFS/ExeFS partition blob with an .nsp extension.

NoNAND · Oct 18, 2018

Hopes of a ps2 and gamecube emulator.

leonmagnus99 · Oct 18, 2018

Rahkeesh said:
You're fine for now, and maybe the next several years. Multiple people have reported being hit by the problem eventually and lost everything on their SD card, and the cause of that is known by homebrew devs. You do what you like but there's still a significant risk here.

damn wut? how ?
i am also using exfat , what is the risk ?

i dont use much of homebrew menu and its apps, only choidujour to update ._.
no emulators .

let me know how i can avoid that losing data thing, i have been using exfat for many months now without any issues, i use exfat so that i can install larger nsp files... 4gb+ ones.

OrGoN3 · Oct 18, 2018

leonmagnus99 said:
damn wut? how ?
i am also using exfat , what is the risk ?

i dont use much of homebrew menu and its apps, only choidujour to update ._.
no emulators .

let me know how i can avoid that losing data thing, i have been using exfat for many months now without any issues, i use exfat so that i can install larger nsp files... 4gb+ ones.

The driver Nintendo is using for exfat is awful. That's the risk. From what I've been reading, the harm usually comes from using your card for homebrew and games. So it is often suggested to go fat32 if you're going to use homebrew. I have read some posts about people saying their SD cards were corrupt after just playing games, with exfat, but I'm skeptic about those.

If you want to be safe and want to continue using exfat, I'd suggest a second memory card, fat32, for homebrew.

JokerJoester · Oct 18, 2018

OrGoN3 said:
The driver Nintendo is using for exfat is awful. That's the risk. From what I've been reading, the harm usually comes from using your card for homebrew and games. So it is often suggested to go fat32 if you're going to use homebrew. I have read some posts about people saying their SD cards were corrupt after just playing games, with exfat, but I'm skeptic about those.

If you want to be safe and want to continue using exfat, I'd suggest a second memory card, fat32, for homebrew.

You have convinced me to not take any risks. I am just going to back up my files to my computer, format to fat32, and then put everything back on. There is a way to install NSP/XCI files via USB on the Switch now, right?

OrGoN3 · Oct 18, 2018

JokerJoester said:
You have convinced me to not take any risks. I am just going to back up my files to my computer, format to fat32, and then put everything back on. There is a way to install NSP/XCI files via USB on the Switch now, right?

Via USB? Yes if that USB is connected to your PC. Tinfoil can achieve this. If you're asking about loading XCI files with SX OS, current SX OS can load XCI from a connected USB hard drive (up to 2TB). It can also install from the hard drive to your SD card (but you cannot install NSP's to the hard drive).

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leonmagnus99 said:
damn wut? how ?
i am also using exfat , what is the risk ?

i dont use much of homebrew menu and its apps, only choidujour to update ._.
no emulators .

let me know how i can avoid that losing data thing, i have been using exfat for many months now without any issues, i use exfat so that i can install larger nsp files... 4gb+ ones.

Legal NSP Splitter: https://gbatemp.net/threads/legal-nsp-splitter-for-fat32.520213/
If you use something like DZ Network NSP Installer, https://gbatemp.net/threads/dz-network-nsp-installer-and-title-key-dumper.519179/, and install via local network, the program will handle the splitting of the files itself.

When NSP files are installed, the Switch system installs them into 4GB chunks.

You can also dump your NAND in parts (and then join them later on on a PC) so it'll work with FAT32 as well.

JokerJoester · Oct 18, 2018

OrGoN3 said:
Via USB? Yes if that USB is connected to your PC. Tinfoil can achieve this. If you're asking about loading XCI files with SX OS, current SX OS can load XCI from a connected USB hard drive (up to 2TB). It can also install from the hard drive to your SD card (but you cannot install NSP's to the hard drive).

I was referring to the former. So if I understand this correctly, I can install XCI dumped games from my PC connected to my Switch with Tinfoil. This is especially useful to know since the reason I opted into exfat in the first place was because most XCI dumps exceed 4GB

OrGoN3 · Oct 18, 2018

JokerJoester said:
I was referring to the former. So if I understand this correctly, I can install XCI dumped games from my PC connected to my Switch with Tinfoil. This is especially useful to know since the reason I opted into exfat in the first place was because most XCI dumps exceed 4GB

I had thought tinfoil only installed NSPs, but here: https://github.com/XorTroll/Tinfoil#network-install-instructions

leonmagnus99 · Oct 18, 2018

OrGoN3 said:
saying their SD cards were corrupt after just playing games, with exfat, but I'm skeptic about those.

If you want to be safe and want to continue using exfat, I'd suggest a second memory card, fat32, for homebrew.

maybe their sdcards were chinese knock offs?
i got my class10 from amazon.

so for homebrew i could use a 4gb card to e.g update my system with choidujour etc.?

also if i were to back up my stuff /installed 4+gb nsps for instance.
when i look them up in data management on my switch i see e.g 7gb , but are they actually saved as chunks on my mSD so could i copy those back on a fat32 mSD or no?

OrGoN3 · Oct 18, 2018

leonmagnus99 said:
maybe their sdcards were chinese knock offs?
i got my class10 from amazon. No. These were normal SD cards.

so for homebrew i could use a 4gb card to e.g update my system with choidujour etc.? Yes, as system updates tend to be under 300MB.

also if i were to back up my stuff /installed 4+gb nsps for instance.
when i look them up in data management on my switch i see e.g 7gb , but are they actually saved as chunks on my mSD so could i copy those back on a fat32 mSD or no? yes

My replies are inline.

leonmagnus99 · Oct 18, 2018

OrGoN3 said:
My replies are inline.

oh sweet, so i could actually simply copy them right into a fat32 card eh hmm seems tempting as i wont have to do any conversion for my 4+gb files.

i might switch to fat32 but i dont know when, but how likely are ppl to get that corruption thing?

i havent had any issues so far and i previously launched stuff for homebrew on my exfat.

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