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@PanTheFaun I think your crazy with these beliefs you hold, however just because I disagree doesn’t mean I think you’re a disagreeable person. You’ve been quite respectful actually and I commend that. @Xzi you and I agree on much, however we don’t always see eye to eye on issues. However, you’ve gotten so much better to have these kinds of discussions with and that’s really awesome bro. What I think we all can agree on (I THINK) is that this topic has gotten severely derailed and we should steer it back to the thoughts about Antifa which I also believe at the core, we all kind of agree that violence is unethical and is a trait the Antifa “movement” is mostly known for. So, can we try and get this back on track fellas? Please?
 
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@PanTheFaun I think your crazy with these beliefs you hold, however just because I disagree doesn’t mean I think you’re a disagreeable person. You’ve been quite respectful actually and I commend that. @Xzi you and I agree on much, however we don’t always see eye to eye on issues. However, you’ve gotten so much better to have these kinds of discussions with and that’s really awesome bro. What I think we all can agree on (I THINK) is that this topic has gotten severely derailed and we should steer it back to the thoughts about Antifa which I also believe at the core, we all kind of agree that violence is unethical and is a trait the Antifa “movement” is mostly known for. So, can we try and get this back on track fellas? Please?
Haha thanks and I agree. Lets go back to the main topic which is Antifa. c:
 
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I can't help but think that anyone who doesn't believe there were gas chambers or thinks people are trying to start a "white genocide" is a troll or, frankly, dumb. Sorry.

I haven't been keeping up with Antifa stuff, but I'm definitely against them if they've been committing indiscriminate violence. That goes for any group regardless of their political affiliation.
 
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I can't help but think that anyone who doesn't believe there were gas chambers or thinks people are trying to start a "white genocide" is a troll or, frankly, dumb. Sorry.

I haven't been keeping up with Antifa stuff, but I'm definitely against them if they've been commiting indiscriminate violence. That goes for any group regardless of their political affiliation.
You have a right to your own opinion and I don't think you're that intelligent either. Let's agree to disagree. c:
 
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You're shitting me right? The president literally has Mexican children sleeping on concrete floors in detainment centers. He has implemented a Muslim travel ban. He put Ben Carson in charge of HUD and cut the funding to it drastically. The list goes on and on. Celebrities can send out sharp-witted tweets, but the president actually has the power to act on his racist tendencies and does so quite often.
Again, you're changing the subject.

Please provide proof of what I asked.
 

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@PanTheFaun I think your crazy with these beliefs you hold, however just because I disagree doesn’t mean I think you’re a disagreeable person. You’ve been quite respectful actually and I commend that. @Xzi you and I agree on much, however we don’t always see eye to eye on issues. However, you’ve gotten so much better to have these kinds of discussions with and that’s really awesome bro. What I think we all can agree on (I THINK) is that this topic has gotten severely derailed and we should steer it back to the thoughts about Antifa which I also believe at the core, we all kind of agree that violence is unethical and is a trait the Antifa “movement” is mostly known for. So, can we try and get this back on track fellas? Please?
Back on topic

So it turns out Proud boys didn’t start the fight. Antifa launched the first attack.

Antifa was harrassing the proud boys for a few days. And we’re throwing bottles at them filled with urine. So they were itching for a fight and the attack from Antifa is what triggered them to retaliate.

They didn’t start it but they sure did end it.

 
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Please, do provide proof where the president said that all black people should be killed, or that there is black privilege, or all the nosense the left is constantly spreading without any consequences.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...otline-record-calls-donald-trump-victory-lgbt
Just dropping this here. The left politics is all based on divide and conquest, either by fear or hate hysteria, they don't give a rat ass about what will happen to the people being brainwashed.
 

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...otline-record-calls-donald-trump-victory-lgbt
Just dropping this here. The left politics is all based on divide and conquest, either by fear or hate hysteria, they don't give a rat ass about what will happen to the people being brainwashed.
The fisa memo. The DNC and the Clinton Campaign even tried to falsely connect Trump to Russia, to turn people against him and rig the election. The Russian Bots and the 13 Russian Trolls.

The Democratic Party claimed that the documents are lies and not to trust the Republicans, and tried whatever they can to discredit it, but with the memo and the fisa application in hand it was all mostly true. And this wasted millions of our tax dollars to investigate this Russian connection, and to spy on Trumps team, even though they had no evidence to begin with.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fisa-warrant-application-supports-nunes-memo?_amp=true

There is some shady things going on with the DNC and Hillary Clinton. Especially with the Bret Kavanaugh case.

With all the crime efforts of the Obama administration, the intelligence community, the FBI, Department of Justice, the DNC, and mainstream media to try to get Hillary Clinton elected as president, Trump still won the election. Karma is a Beyotch.

Hilary lost because she had no clear message, because she kept playing into identity politics, more and more states are becoming Republican especially if you compare to the 2008 election, and many Democrats didn’t vote for her because they just didn’t trust her, especially after what they did to Bearnie Sanders.

It’s just all divide and conquer tactics, hysteria, and manipulation. With all this Antifa, SJW non sense, people saw through it and got tired of it, and it’s why Trump is president.
 
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It’s just all divide and conquer tactics, hysteria, and manipulation. With all this Antifa, SJW non sense, people saw through it and got tired of it, and it’s why Trump is president.
Trump is president because we're living in an Idiocracy where people believe reality TV stardom qualifies you to run the country. The reason you have to keep looking to the past is because Trump has made a fucking moron out of himself throughout his entire presidency and you want to avoid owning up to that. Republicans will still be screaming "HILLARY" ten presidential elections from now just to avoid taking responsibility for the ass-backward leaders they elect.

The Obama administration had no major scandals unless you're the type to count dijon mustard and tan suits as scandals. We're up to 37 indictments and 7 convictions for the Trump administration, and we haven't even gotten through his second year in office yet.

Lastly, you couldn't be any more disingenuous by pretending that division hasn't been Trump's strategy from the very beginning of the campaign. He's the most divisive president in history, we've never had someone in the white house who attacks private citizens on twitter before. The guy is president, but even that title couldn't do anything to help his extreme level of insecurity. Likely the same reason it's so easy for his supporters to relate to him, they're all stuck in a middle school mentality.

Back on topic, the NYPD is pursuing charges against nine proud boys members for assault:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/proud-...oup-for-new-york-city-brawl-today-2018-10-15/

A net positive for anybody who's truly against any form of extremism, and not just against extremism on one side. Violent acts should always be prosecuted.
 
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Trump is president because we're living in an Idiocracy where people believe reality TV stardom qualifies you to run the country. The reason you have to keep looking to the past is because Trump has made a fucking moron out of himself throughout his entire presidency and you want to avoid owning up to that. Republicans will still be screaming "HILLARY" ten presidential elections from now just to avoid taking responsibility for the ass-backward leaders they elect.

The Obama administration had no major scandals unless you're the type to count dijon mustard and tan suits as scandals. We're up to 37 indictments and 7 convictions for the Trump administration, and we haven't even gotten through his second year in office yet.

Lastly, you couldn't be any more disingenuous by pretending that division hasn't been Trump's strategy from the very beginning of the campaign. He's the most divisive president in history, we've never had someone in the white house who attacks private citizens on twitter before. The guy is president, but even that title couldn't do anything to help his extreme level of insecurity. Likely the same reason it's so easy for his supporters to relate to him, they're all stuck in a middle school mentality.

Back on topic, the NYPD is pursuing charges against nine proud boys members for assault:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/proud-...oup-for-new-york-city-brawl-today-2018-10-15/

A net positive for anybody who's truly against any form of extremism, and not just against extremism on one side. Violent acts should always be prosecuted.
Trump is president because Americans were tired of tons of interracial violence and murder, illegal immigrants flooding American borders, having our jobs taken away from said illegal immigrants who can barely if not at all speak English, etc.

Here is some of the Obama administration scandals - https://www.heritage.org/political-process/commentary/obamas-scandal-free-administration-myth, https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2017/01/02/18-major-scandals-obama-presidency/

Middle school mentality? Are you serious? Come on.

Staying on topic -
 
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Trump became president because some idiots implemented the Electoral College because they thought that there needed to be a safety net in case the people "were too stupid to make the right decision," if we elected the president through popular vote only then Hillary would've won because she got the popular vote. (I really don't care for either)


illegal immigrants flooding American borders, having our jobs taken away from said illegal immigrants who can barely if not at all speak English, etc.

None of the jobs that immigrants are being employed in are jobs that other American citizens even want, like this case in California where in the amidst of mass deportations of immigrants led to a labor shortage on farms and they continue to raise the wages of these jobs but the average Americans still do not want them. http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-farms-immigration/
 

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Trump is president because Americans were tired of tons of interracial violence and murder, illegal immigrants flooding American borders, having our jobs taken away from said illegal immigrants who can barely if not at all speak English, etc.

Here is some of the Obama administration scandals - https://www.heritage.org/political-process/commentary/obamas-scandal-free-administration-myth, https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2017/01/02/18-major-scandals-obama-presidency/

Middle school mentality? Are you serious? Come on.

Staying on topic -

This might have been posted here before, but it's basically how I see the immigration thing. You can't really blame the immigrants themselves for trying to live.

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This might have been posted here before, but it's basically how I see the immigration thing. You can't really blame the immigrants themselves for trying to live.

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If they enter this country illegally then they can be blamed. They are breaking the law.

Trump became president because some idiots implemented the Electoral College because they thought that there needed to be a safety net in case the people "were too stupid to make the right decision," if we elected the president through popular vote only then Hillary would've won because she got the popular vote. (I really don't care for either)



None of the jobs that immigrants are being employed in are jobs that other American citizens even want, like this case in California where in the amidst of mass deportations of immigrants led to a labor shortage on farms and they continue to raise the wages of these jobs but the average Americans still do not want them. http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-farms-immigration/
You would have to be pretty stupid to vote for the other candidates who were worse. Like I have said before if you enter this country illegally you have no right to be here and should be deported. These people have no respect for our laws or culture. As for the shortage on farms, I used to work on a farm along with other Americans and the owners couldn't handle all the workers trying to get jobs. I can't see how that is accurate.
 
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Trump is president because Americans were tired of tons of interracial violence and murder, illegal immigrants flooding American borders, having our jobs taken away from said illegal immigrants who can barely if not at all speak English, etc.
That makes no sense. "Immigrants are taking our jobs, so I'm going to vote for Trump who employs illegal immigrants in his businesses all the time." Granted, Republican voters almost never think it through that far, or they'd also realize that they're voting to suppress their own wages.

Here is some of the Obama administration scandals.
The Heritage Foundation and Breitbart are partisan opinion rags at best, not news organizations or fact-checkers.

Middle school mentality? Are you serious? Come on.
It is absolutely a middle school mentality, believing that all that matters is "winning." The national debt is at unsustainable levels, people who work two jobs still need food stamps to support their families, and several states are now underwater because responding to climate change would slow profits? Oh well, at least we get to keep believing we "owned the libs" that one time.
 

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That makes no sense. "Immigrants are taking our jobs, so I'm going to vote for Trump who employs illegal immigrants in his businesses all the time." Granted, Republican voters almost never think it through that far, or they'd also realize that they're voting to suppress their own wages.


The Heritage Foundation and Breitbart are partisan opinion rags at best, not news organizations or fact-checkers.


It is absolutely a middle school mentality, believing that all that matters is "winning." The national debt is at unsustainable levels, people who work two jobs still need food stamps to support their families, and several states are now underwater because responding to climate change would slow profits? Oh well, at least we get to keep believing we "owned the libs" that one time.
I have seen very little of Donald Trump actually hiring illegal immigrants and if he does he is wrong. You're making this a right vs left issue which is not what I'm doing.

Haha that's your opinion, buddy. You don't have to be an news organization or fact checker to find evidence of wrong doing.

It's about the best candidate winning for American needs. Hillary and the others didn't speak for what the majority of Americans wanted.
 

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Haha that's your opinion, buddy. You don't have to be an news organization or fact checker to find evidence of wrong doing
That's not my opinion, it's simply not evidence of anything without facts. You can make any ridiculous claim if your source is tabloids.

If the Republicans had anything to go after Obama with, you can bet damn sure that they would've done so during his time in office.

It's about the best candidate winning for American needs. Hillary and the others didn't speak for what the majority of Americans wanted.
According to the popular vote she did. And most people agreed that neither candidate was that great in the 2016 election, which is why it's hilarious to now see people try to deify Trump as if he isn't half-orangutan with a vocabulary of less than 100 words.
 
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That's not my opinion, it's simply not evidence of anything without facts. You can make any ridiculous claim if your source is tabloids.

If the Republicans had anything to go after Obama with, you can bet damn sure that they would've done so during his time in office.


According to the popular vote she did. And most people agreed that neither candidate was that great in the 2016 election, which is why it's hilarious to now see people try to deify Trump as if he isn't half-orangutan with a vocabulary of less than 100 words.
Do you know how many times the media and news outlets have been caught lying about "facts"? Let's not talk about credibility. Please let's not do this because I'll have to put you in your place.

Obama was one of the worst presidents in United States history.
 
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