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What's this?
That's not a Nazi.


Northern Blacks have higher IQ then southern whites.

The Irish use to have low IQ, but now they risen.

American Black and White WW2 vets that had kids with Germans, the half German Black and White kids have similar IQ.

First borns have higher IQ then their siblings.

Black immigrants like the Nigerians have higher IQ then American blacks.

American blacks that go to charter schools through random vouchers have higher IQ then blacks that go to public schools that come from the same bad poor neighborhood, even when they get an education in the same building. Government run schools on the first floor, and charter schools on the 2nd floor of that same building. Charter schools are in the same building due to lack of funding to open up their own seprate school.

The majority of degrees in STEM in U.S. is earned by immigrants, usually coming from countries with less money spent per pupil compared to the U.S. Hardly earned by American born people themselves, due to bad government education. Having a hard time understanding Stem Professors in colleges is a common complaint.

Asian Americans have higher educational attainment then whites and earn more than the average white person.

I just wanted to make this point based on the first picture you posted.

That was a quotation from the Jew in the photo and that graph is statistically accurate.
 

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I am willing to discuss and try to understand where you're coming from. I kindly ask you to form an argument.
The National-Social Association (German: Nationalsozialer Verein, NSV) was a political party in the German Empire, founded in 1896 by Friedrich Naumann. It sought to synthesise liberalism, nationalism and non-Marxist socialism with Protestant Christian values in order to cross the ideological front lines and draw workers away from Marxist class struggle. However, it never grew beyond a minor party of intellectuals which failed to gain mass support in elections. Despite its name, the National-Social Association is considered a liberal party and had no relation to the 20th century Nazi Party, except their shared rejection of Marxism and claim to great power status for the German Empire.
 
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The National-Social Association (German: Nationalsozialer Verein, NSV) was a political party in the German Empire, founded in 1896 by Friedrich Naumann. It sought to synthesise liberalism, nationalism and non-Marxist socialism with Protestant Christian values in order to cross the ideological front lines and draw workers away from Marxist class struggle. However, it never grew beyond a minor party of intellectuals which failed to gain mass support in elections.

I'm still not understanding where you're coming from. The founder of the NSV Friedrich Naumann left the Christian Social Party to form the NSV because he did not agree with its antisemitism. From what I can tell racial aspects did not play a large role within NSV. This is also notably different from Patrick Little and contradicts your earlier definition of national socialism which I would describe as more accurate in historic context.
 
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I'm still not understanding where you're coming from. The founder of the NSV Friedrich Naumann left the Christian Social Party to form the NSV because he did not agree with its antisemitism. From what I can tell racial aspects did not play a large role within NSV. This is also notably different from Patrick Little and contradicts your earlier definition of national socialism which I would describe as more accurate in historic context.
I can't really explain it more than I already have. All I can say is that he never claimed to be a Neo-Nazi. By the way I really didn't want this to be a heated debate thread...
 
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Heh, I'm kind of surprised to see this thread on here. :-)

I tend to stay away from political discussions on this site, but I'll jump in a little on this one. I can't say that I know too much about Patrick Little, other than one interview of him that I listened to (and can't remember much of). I do agree with him on the subject of disproportionate Zionist influence in American media, government, and finance, along with the double-standards that many hold on things such as immigration policies. I can't say that I support any "Nazi" or National Socialist ideology, however. I support America as a constitutional republic.

I do like a lot of Jared Taylor's material, specifically much of his material which calls out the hypocrisies and prejudices of a lot of the "anti-white" crowd. I, again, disagree with the form of "nationalism" that he supports. I also believe that he shies away from the issue of Zionist influence, the influence of political lobbies like AIPAC, etc.

They are both literally neo-Nazis who deny the Holocaust and believe in anti-Semitic conspiracies. They can pepper in different terms all they want, but they are still Neo-Nazis.

Please provide proof that Jared Taylor "denies the Holocaust," or is a "neo-Nazi." I'll give you that Patrick Little appears to be a Holocaust revisionist, but I have never heard Jared Taylor espouse such views. I could be wrong, but it sounds similar to claims that I heard against a guy named Alex Jones, where some of his political opponents were calling him a "white nationalist." I am no fan of Alex Jones, but he is not a "white nationalist." Again, I am willing to be proven wrong.
 
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I can't really explain it more than I already have. All I can say is that he never claimed to be a Neo-Nazi.

I'm sorry but describing himself as a National Socialist on the about page of his own website. He IS claiming to be a National Socialist.

Calling a National Socialist a Nazi (Nationalsozialismus) is just like calling a field goal in basketball a bucket. It's just its commonplace abbreviation. I don't understand why you fight this so much. Would you feel better if it was Naci (national socialist) because it's derived from its english long form?

Edit: BTW Germans like to abbreviate like this. We sometimes call Social Democrats (Sozialdemokraten) Sozis
 
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I'm sorry but describing himself as a National Socialist on the about page of his own website. He IS claiming to be a National Socialist.

Calling a National Socialist a Nazi (Nationalsozialismus) is just like calling a field goal in basketball a bucket. It's just its commonplace abbreviation. I don't understand why you fight this so much. Would you feel better if it was Naci (national socialist) because it's derived from its english long form?
Haha I'm not fighting anything but I'm just saying that I never heard him call himself a Neo-Nazi. If he is well so what? I agree with a lot of the principles of National Socialism.
 
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Haha I'm not fighting anything but I'm just saying that I never heard him call himself a Neo-Nazi. If he is well so what? I agree with a lot but not all of the principles of National Socialism.

Fair enough. Here's my thoughts on this and my interpretation of his web presence.
  • He doesn't call himself a Nazi but a National Socialist. I seems like he wants to avoid the negative Nazi label.
  • He uses NSDAP (and I really don't want to use the term) as a dog whistle. He's referencing the Nazi party here and this will only be obvious to people that can put it in context.
 
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Fair enough. Here's my thoughts on this and my interpretation of his web presence.
  • He doesn't call himself a Nazi but a National Socialist. I seems like he wants to avoid the negative Nazi label.
  • He uses NSDAP (and I really don't want to use the term) as a dog whistle. He's referencing the Nazi party here and this will only be obvious to people that can put it in context.
I can't prove or disprove what you have said. This is all speculation. c:
 

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I am not a National Socialist but I agree with the values.

That's fine. I want as little government as possible in my life and if possible none at all.
Then you're not a national socialist. A lot of people thought the same as you did prior to Hitler rising to power. The thing with being nationalistic is that minds can be easily swayed just as patriotism because those two are basically the same and the more you arem the more easily influenced you are. We've seen that countless of times with patriotic people and especially nationalistic people. They all had the same mindset prior to someone coming in power but as soon a more extreme guy came to power all those people were easily influenced by that extremist person in power. I'm not saying you are but wondering if you would still have that mindset if an extremist came to power.
 
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Then you're not a national socialist. i've been reading your comments but you contradict yourself in a lot of ways. Also a lot of people thought the same as you did prior to Hitler rising to power. The thing with being nationalistic is that minds can be easily swayed just as patriotism because those two are basically the same and the more you arem the more easily influenced you are. We've seen that countless of times with patriotic people and especially nationalistic people. They all had the same mindset prior to someone coming in power but as soon a more extreme guy came to power all those people were easily influenced by that extremist person in power. I'm not saying you are but wondering if you would still have that mindset if an extremist came to power.
In the quote I literally say I'm not a National Socialist. I just agree with a lot of the values. I'm not okay with any extremists.
 

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It's fine.
I am a white nationalist. c:
I see myself not as a nationalist but more as nationalistic on a scale of 1 to 10 more as a 7. But i necessarily don't see that as a good thing. I know i am but in no way or manner is it a good thing. It's kinda hard to explain what i mean with that and i tend to follow people who are more nationalistic but over the years i have come to see nationalism as an extreme form of idea's and became more a centralist right winged person instead of a complete right wing person. I don't think i will ever be a leftie or a centralist leftie but ey maybe the same will happen to you.
 
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I see myself not as a nationalist but more as nationalistic on a scale of 1 to 10 more as a 7. But i necessarily don't see that as a good thing. I know i am but in no way or manner is it a good thing. It's kinda hard to explain what i mean with that and i tend to follow people who are more nationalistic but over the years i have come to see nationalism as an extreme form of idea's and became more a centralist right winged person instead of a complete right wing person. I don't think i will ever be a leftie or a centralist leftie but ey maybe the same will happen to you.
I will always be nationalistic to my people and my country which is America. America is my country and while I hate to see Europe racially and culturally decline... America will always come first to me. The founding fathers have given us a beautiful constitution and country which I will swear to protect to the best of my ability.
 

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I will always be nationalistic to my people and my country which is America. America is my country and while I hate to see Europe racially and culturally decline... America will always come first to me. The founding fathers have given us a beautiful constitution and country which I will swear to protect to the best of my ability.
Europe won't decline. Right wing parties won over Belgium and extreme right gained a tons of votes in the elections that were held on saturday. Denmark and Sweden has become right winged and so did Austria, Italy and Germany is becoming more right winged everyday. France normally would have been right winged if Macron didn't form a majority party with the other candidates giving him more votes then le penn but people actually voting for her instead because she had the majority votes. Then you have the Netherlands where the biggest second party is extreme right and is gaining more popularity by the day. Believe me, it won't be long anymore when the left tyranny will be a thing of the past. It has been more then 60 years that left was in power and that power they had is forming cracks.
 
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Europe won't decline. Right wing parties won over Belgium and extreme right gained a tons of votes in the elections that were held on saturday. Denmark and Sweden has become right winged and so did Austria, Italy and Germany is becoming more right winged everyday. France normally would have been right winged if Macron didn't form a majority party with the other candidates giving him more votes then le penn but people actually voting for her instead because she had the majority votes. Then you have the Netherlands where the biggest second party is extreme right and is gaining more popularity by the day. Believe me, it won't be long anymore when the left tyranny will be a thing of the past. It has been more then 60 years that left was in power and that power they had is forming cracks.
I'm rooting for you, buddy! c:
There is nothing wrong with loving your race which is an extended family and just because you love your race doesn't mean you hate other races either. I want good for all races of people but my people deserve their own homelands just like everybody else.
 
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