Cloud gaming: are you interested?

KingVamp · Oct 9, 2018

Let's say a cloud only service cost $100 a year. You play for 7 years and decide that's enough. That's when you lose everything, unless you started paying again. That is, if they haven't pulled the game(s) or shutdown the whole service altogether.

Meanwhile, you could have at least waited 4 to 5 years, to get a cheaper (use or new) console and games that you could have kept for life for around the same price. Granted, you might be late jumping on to the new consoles and games, but still.

tech3475 · Oct 10, 2018

KingVamp said:
Let's say a cloud only service cost $100 a year. You play for 7 years and decide that's enough. That's when you lose everything, unless you started paying again. That is, if they haven't pulled the game(s) or shutdown the whole service altogether.

Meanwhile, you could have at least waited 4 to 5 years, to get a cheaper (use or new) console and games that you could have kept for life for around the same price. Granted, you might be late jumping on to the new consoles and games, but still.

Depending on the person, that might actually be a good deal.

For example, my brothers only play a few games each year with Fifa (an annual release) being the main one which they buy on launch and even bought launch consoles for. If for £100 they don't need to buy new consoles, pay for online and get the new version on launch as well as other games they would actually save money.

It's only when it comes to those who want to keep games long term or need local rendering (e.g. poor internet connection) that it can become an issue.

DarthDub · Oct 10, 2018

Not at all.

linuxares · Oct 10, 2018

Sure, the companies will totally have our best intrest in mind.... /s

AtsuNii · Oct 10, 2018

The only experience i really have with it is the Beta of Utomik a while back. I must say, it is not a bad thing but then again, games might get taken out of it while you're still busy with it is my biggest fear in it. Next to the connection issues certain people might experience through it. So I would rather have them advance in it a bit more technology wise so the streaming will go to a better standard. For myself personally, I'd rather not, I prefer to own my games.

DayVeeBoi · Oct 10, 2018

One more option on the poll please, "It sucks, but I think we're stuck with it". Same way I felt when PSPgo came out with no option for physical media.

tech3475 · Oct 10, 2018

DayVeeBoi said:
One more option on the poll please, "It sucks, but I think we're stuck with it". Same way I felt when PSPgo came out with no option for physical media.

We had an option, not buying it.

I doubt MS would have backtracked on the disasterous Xbone pre-launch DRM, etc. If sales were still good.

That said, I remember an idiotic ‘review’ of the Go on the Gadget Show where they called the lack of physical media ‘good due to DD’, ignoring that the regular console still had DD as an option.

TheMCNerd2017 · Oct 11, 2018

I'd rather be able to play singleplayer games without needing to purchase an expensive 100mbps symmetrical internet connection. Also, game streaming makes it much harder to archive any games that use it.

sj33 · Oct 11, 2018

I'm really neither 'like' nor 'dislike'. It has a place. For people unable to afford dedicated hardware and regular full priced software yet can afford a monthly subscription, the benefits are obvious.

goober · Oct 11, 2018

Cloud Gaming is 100% about removing ownership of games and making consumers be 100% dependent upon subscription services. If you don't believe me just look at every meeting that has been publicly disclosed about cloud gaming, music, movies, etc. aka sub services. All the investors and "leaders" in the companies drool at the prospect and promise to do what they can for that prospect. Sub services have proven to be huge money makers. Ownership of traditional media has only been shown to be money makers. Everyone wants a lottery ticket these days and "Cloud" Gaming is what these idiots think it will be since not everyone can be the beyond reasoning of success games like Fortnite and all the other ones before it.

If cloud gaming was always and forever a sideshow for those who don't mind it, fine. But this industry has a very defined abuse pattern of its consumers and its constant anti-consumer tactics, that means people who actually BUY stuff.

Just imagine what they'd do when they were no longer accountable, users no longer had ANY freedom for their media and they had a huge revenue stream to "protect".

Gaming history would get lost. Games would be forgotten not because they were bad or insignificant but because music rights expired and they couldn't be bothered to update/replace or licensing terms got out of favor so they just abandoned the title. There'd be no backups anywhere.

Above all else, though, "hysterics" aside, you wouldn't be able to play what you fucking paid for anytime you want and would be at the mercy of not only your internet provider (which if Republican Terrorism remains will be another bottleneck in this) but the service itself and hackers attacking that service because they got pissed for whatever reason.

No thanks. Whatever convenience and neatoness Cloud gaming could be if all the kinks got ironed out do not outweigh the very realistic alternate reality in which it thrived in.

Taleweaver · Oct 11, 2018

goober said:
Cloud Gaming is 100% about removing ownership of games and making consumers be 100% dependent upon subscription services. If you don't believe me just look at every meeting that has been publicly disclosed about cloud gaming, music, movies, etc. aka sub services. All the investors and "leaders" in the companies drool at the prospect and promise to do what they can for that prospect. Sub services have proven to be huge money makers. Ownership of traditional media has only been shown to be money makers. Everyone wants a lottery ticket these days and "Cloud" Gaming is what these idiots think it will be since not everyone can be the beyond reasoning of success games like Fortnite and all the other ones before it.

If cloud gaming was always and forever a sideshow for those who don't mind it, fine. But this industry has a very defined abuse pattern of its consumers and its constant anti-consumer tactics, that means people who actually BUY stuff.

Just imagine what they'd do when they were no longer accountable, users no longer had ANY freedom for their media and they had a huge revenue stream to "protect".

Gaming history would get lost. Games would be forgotten not because they were bad or insignificant but because music rights expired and they couldn't be bothered to update/replace or licensing terms got out of favor so they just abandoned the title. There'd be no backups anywhere.

Above all else, though, "hysterics" aside, you wouldn't be able to play what you fucking paid for anytime you want and would be at the mercy of not only your internet provider (which if Republican Terrorism remains will be another bottleneck in this) but the service itself and hackers attacking that service because they got pissed for whatever reason.

No thanks. Whatever convenience and neatoness Cloud gaming could be if all the kinks got ironed out do not outweigh the very realistic alternate reality in which it thrived in.

I get the concerns. Seriously: I do. But c'mon...there's a thing called exaggeration, and there's a thing called EXAGGERATION!!! You know damn well that if everyone sticks with physical games, these investors/leaders have nothing.

"this industry has a very defined abuse pattern of its consumers and its constant anti-consumer tactics"...yeah, those poor consumers who are totally unable to buy games in physical form or from sources like gog.com. These poor handful of millions of people are completely defenseless and outnumbered against the enormous army of a few dozens investors who will invade homes and trample any remaining cartridges, DVD's and (obviously legitimate) backups of games, all the while shouting things like "game streaming is the FUTURE! Embrace our PLATFORM!!!".

I'll also +9000 your post for blaming both terrorist internet providers and vigilante hackers alike for starting a war against each other with that will incidentally leave the abovementioned gaming group unable to play games. Can I throw in "if USA starts a war with Russia, China, Korea, the EU, Mexico, Canada and Belgium, then THIS MIGHT BE DETRIMENTAL FOR OUR GAMING BANDWITH!!!!", or is that jumping the shark?

mightymuffy · Oct 11, 2018

Another one for 'personally not keen, but we're stuck with it' - I can see this being the next battle between Google, Microsoft and probably Amazon. (Nin will sit it out and carry on with their own agenda, Sony might partner with one of them, Apple? Well fukk knows.. probably same as Nintendo)
I'm very interested in seeing how the whole thing develops ....just, not sure I'll be taking any part in it!

evilone · Oct 11, 2018

I completley refuse it, perhaps im simply to old for this. I grew up in the Time, where PC / AMIGA / C64 Games was sold in nice shiny big boxes (which i still collect) and was already really pissed at the Time when they start to sell Mini Big Boxes and DVD cases, from this time i really stopped buying games just for collecting, i only buyed games which are really interessting for me, the rest only for the retro collection. I already refuse steam, for sure here i own also already alot of games due to the years, but the plus is here simply you can get the keys fucking cheap after a while.

I fear with cloud gaming it will be even worse then with steam, if there would be something like Netflix for Games for a good price it could be interessting, but to pay 60-70$ only to get something activated on their servers, i dont like this feeling. I really like it when i have something physical in my hand.

Deleted User · Oct 11, 2018

i dont think it will last but its probably useful for somebody
i definately wont be able to use it cuz the internet here sucks
ranges form 0.5kb/s-700kb/s and shuts off for ~15mins at 16:00 because my isp (only one in my town lul) gets overloaded when everyone gets off work
and thats the fastest i can get since i moved

DayVeeBoi · Oct 12, 2018

tech3475 said:
We had an option, not buying it.

And that's exactly what happened. Nobody bought it, but did it matter? Not really, they just keep thrusting more and more DRM disguised as convenience, and other Anti-Consumer "innovation" down our throats. That's all this is as well, companies wresting control over the products we (used to) own.

FCKDRM.com

spiderman1216 · Oct 12, 2018

It's probably the future when it becomes more reliable I suspect most people will go for it.

A fast internet connection is useful for many things a console isn't at least not as useful as what most people already have in their homes like a smartphone, or a tablet.

It's more convenient to the consumer all you need is the display and a fast internet connection which in turn saves you money on hardware. Just get a fast internet connection, a display, and a controller if it works the way xCloud works where you buy the game and stream it anywhere and if the subscription is incredibly low cost or if there is a subscription at all it can take streaming by a storm and normalize it in the future.

Though there still needs to be things worked out for it to truly take hold.

We need to be able to trade in games, we need to be able to preserve games maybe like a library of games. My idea would be something like a digital library something like the public library we already have but digital where games are uploaded it to for keeping so if a service goes down the games don't go with it.

You are still free to purchase said games or if you already purchased them you can just continue using them.

eworm · Oct 12, 2018

Please add a "The hell is cloud gaming?" option to the poll, 'k thx.

CrimsonMaple · Oct 13, 2018

I think the idea is alright and that it probably is the future of gaming but not for a long while. I won't be using it for a long while.

invaderyoyo · Oct 13, 2018

I have a Shield TV and GeForce Now works great! You can buy games on Steam and just run them on there. You don't need a PC. You own the games.

That said, I have a 300 Mbps connection. If your internet is bad then, yeah it won't work. If the internet goes down, you're screwed. Idk if it's the future, but it definitely could be.

Deleted member 331788 · Oct 13, 2018

Providing people don't buy in to it ...it will be gone faster than VR!
No internet means no games!!!

Cloud gaming: are you interested?

What is your opinion on cloud gaming?

I think it's great and it's probably the future of gaming

I like the idea, but I doubt it will ever become mainstream

I don't like the idea, but I guess it can be useful for a few people

I completely reject the idea and I'm sure it won't last

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