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Aim for the throat!
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You better hope he doesn't really do that and badly injure/kill the other person.

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Dont worry i think il just stick to the nose
 

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Dont worry i think il just stick to the nose
This move works miracles, and judging by the height difference, it looks as if you'll have a good chance of landing the nose hit.

Using your palm to strike under his nose and thrusting upward once you make contact can do the following things:

- Break his nose (if you hit hard enough)

- Ensure an instant nosebleed 99.9% of the time. Take this from someone who's fought his fair share of chumps throughout life, once you make your opponent see their own blood, they get thrown off a bit. Use this time to your advantage!

- Lastly, when you land a nose hit correctly, you can be guaranteed one thing 100% of the time: You'll cause your opponents eyes to well up with tears. I know it sounds stupid, but the tears fuck with their vision, and they're also trying to hold back those tears at the same time. Once again, if you see their eyes well up, move in and strike while their vision is impaired!


However, you shouldn't be focused on landing just the nose hit. Practice your footwork, strafing around quickly while keeping your eyes on your target. Also, you said he seems to be a bit heavier than you. Use your speed to your advantage, move in for a few quick hits, step out and make him come to you, then step back into him and strike! Get him tired and wear him down to the point in which he can throw straight hits anymore.

Good luck, kid!
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Thanks Martin i wasnt planning to hit him in the nose only, i know that getting hit in the nose makes your eyes water so i was planning on going from there
 

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Martin just gave you pretty good tips. Use them wisely.

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To Martin

do you have to use your palm or can i jsut you my fist because the fights going down tommorow and i dont want to try anything im not used to
 

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To Martin

do you have to use your palm or can i jsut you my fist because the fights going down tommorow and i dont want to try anything im not used to
I've actually pulled this move on two people before (a friend had given me this tip before one of my first fights). I've used the fist on one guy and the upward palm thrust on another. Of the two, I can honestly day that the upward palm thrust felt and looked liked it hurted a lot more than the closed fist.

However, the closed fist nose hit is easier to land because you can extend you arm as far as you want from a distance. For the upward palm thrust, you generally have to get close to them, connect with the nose (which is harder than the fist because the bottom of your palm is smaller), and then put all of your weight forward into thrusting it up.

I say try using your closed fist to connect first, since your have a greater chance of landing it while staying out of his danger zone. But also keep an eye out for an opening, if you see one, move in close and plant the bottom of your palm upward into his nose (bottom of your palm: the big bones that end at the bottom of your hand right before it connects to your arm). If you try to hit him with the palm, flatten the rest of your fingers (so they don't get crushed or in the way of impact).

Oh and don't forget to stretch and loosen up a bit before the fight. Wouldn't want to pull anything in your arm or leg mid-fight.
 

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You need to watch a bruce lee movie
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At the end you'll be saying " i WISH someone would F*** with me!!"

I learned though (seriously) that fights dont really get you anywhere. Sure you might get some bragging rights but the risks outweigh the rewards IMO
 

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Don't fight him. Just laugh at him and make fun of him for wanting to fight someone smaller than him. Who cares what other people think? As soon as you get out of school they're all going to be garbage collectors, drug addicts or checkout operators anyway. And so will you if you're the kind of person who needs to fight anyone who picks one.

People like him are big pussies who only pick on kids because they think everyone will back them up and they'll be popular. And because they know they can win against someone younger. If you can psycho-analyse him, you can use that against him. Maybe he has some learning disability? He wets his bed, you saw him shopping for underwear with his mum etc. Do impressions of The Incredible Hulk or a Gorilla, and expose him for the retarded kid with anger issues that he is.

Or you could get your friends to spread a rumour that your brother is in the Mexican Mafia or something. White kids are fucking scared of that shit. Just get one of your cousins/ brothers or something to call him saying "blah blah Pendeho.... blah blah blah Vatos Locos blah blah I kill for fun, mother fucker blah blah blah, You're going down homes!"

With that being said....

Keep your guard up, elbows in, head dipped. Don't look at his eyes, or concentrate on one area. Keep calm and think. Kind of stare through his chest. If he's throwing a punch you'll see his shoulders move first, or if he steps you'll still be able to see where he's going. Keep your mouth close and tongue safely where you can't bite it.

Don't react to every punch. Most of them are just going to be wild swings. Stand your ground and block, take a step back if you need to avoid a swing. When he goes for a big one and you see an opening, avoid, step in and unleash the fury wherever his guard is down. If he rushes you, grab him, pull him in, put your head back (so his head doesn't collide with yours) and bring up the knee into his ribs or stomach.

Don't punch him in the head. You'll hurt your hand. One of my knuckles is lower than the other ones from punching someone in the head. Use the bottom of your palm to smack him directly in the nose to make his eyes water. But I guess you won't notice the pain until the fight's over anyway.... If you're in close and you get into a grapple, try pushing his chin up. People can't control their body if they're looking up at the sky and don't have a sense of where they are. Step behind him, push your hip into his and trip him up.

Don't waste chances. Block with one hand and land a punch with the other. Kick if you know how.

If he grabs you that's good - it means his hand are occupied so he can't block. Grab his wrist so he can't turn it and twist it with both hands to turn him over and lock him up. Difficult to do if he's strong. And you don't have anywhere to go from there except keeping him prisoner while you make fun of him or breaking his elbow.

When someone grabs you with both hands on your chest your natural reaction is to step back or try to push them off. Don't. STEP INTO HIM. His elbows will bend automatically. Cup both your hands and slam them into his ears like you're playing the cymbols. The goal is to make it airtight and drive all that air into his ears. Try it on yourself lightly. It hurts huh? He won't be able to hear for a day and his senses will be stunned for a little while. After that keep one hand on his ear, and bring the other hand over so they're both on the same side. Push his head down and bring your knee up into his jaw.

Use the strong parts of your body against his weak parts. Elbows and knees are good. If he does big swings, duck and STEP IN, not away. Bring your hand up to your shoulder and drive your elbow into his ribs as you step in.

Most people just defend their head. If you know how to do a straight punch go for his solar plexus - no matter how strong you are, you can't grow muscle there. There are lots of places people can't grow muscle or fat. Think about them. If you grab someone's little finger with your hand do you think they'd be able to do anything if you wanted to snap it? But if you damage things like eyes, knees, necks you're probably going to kill him and you'll go to jail. If you kick him in the balls, it'll be funny, but people will think you're a pussy. And he'll probably want to kill you after that.

I almost forgot. If you get punched in the stomach don't tense your abs or hold your breath - that's how you get winded. Just tense a tiny little bit, but mainly just try to turn your body to the side, so the punch slides past.

Actually.... I think your best option is to go for the eye socket punch. You're probably going to lose. But no one cares about that. No one's going to remember that if he's the one walking around with a black eye. If you can manage that he's going to lose all his confidence, everyone will laugh at him and he'll probably never bother you again. Two black eyes would be sweet.

Basically dude, the fight isn't going to go anything like how you imagine it. Someone will throw a punch, you'll grab each other and end up on the ground, and you'll punch each other until the fight gets broken up. It'll probably last around 7 seconds. And if that happens DO NOT let him sit on top of you or he's going to pulverise your face. Keep him in close, reach up and grab his neck and pull him in close so he doesn't have room to take a good swing. If you can punch him in the ribs.

After the fight, depending how it turns out, you're either going to get in trouble from teachers, go to hospital, or go to juvenile detention. One idiot at school isn't worth your future. You're going to meet a whole lot more of them in your life. You can fight them all, or just step over them and watch them become drug addict garbage collectors while you do better things with your life.

I don't recommend fighting. It's totally lame and pointless. It's not like you're going to find out the meaning of life or make world peace after it's over.

But I have seen a few fights ending with the guys realising the pointlessness of it all, hugging and saying "sorry man!".

Edit: Just because this post isn't QUITE long enough. Human males don't usually actually want to fight, they just don't want to be seen as weak. Another tactic is just to give him what he wants. Just say "Yeah, you're right man, you're much bigger and tougher than me, look at me, I'm just a weak freshman, you could obviously easily beat me, so what's the point in fighting? I mean, I'm obviously going to lose.... it's up to you man, if you really want to fight me then I guess I'll just stand here while you kick my ass, cause I'm not going to fight you. It's up to you man, you can go ahead and punch me if you want, or we could just say that you're the tough one and call it a day."
 

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my suggestion - dont show up. you dont want to waste your entire life just because of a fight. you have better things to do. like zombielove said:
I don't recommend fighting. It's totally lame and pointless. It's not like you're going to find out the meaning of life or make world peace after it's over.
but if you are going to fight anyway no matter what other people say, just make sure he fires the first blow (it doesnt need to hit you). that way it will be self defense. also make sure you have people to back up your claim that it was self defense
 

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zombielove, you sir, just owned this topic.

As he said... Just walk away like a man... Follow zombielove's instructions:

Just because this post isn't QUITE long enough. Human males don't usually actually want to fight, they just don't want to be seen as weak. Another tactic is just to give him what he wants. Just say "Yeah, you're right man, you're much bigger and tougher than me, look at me, I'm just a weak freshman, you could obviously easily beat me, so what's the point in fighting? I mean, I'm obviously going to lose.... it's up to you man, if you really want to fight me then I guess I'll just stand here while you kick my ass, cause I'm not going to fight you. It's up to you man, you can go ahead and punch me if you want, or we could just say that you're the tough one and call it a day."

Or fight him...

IF you truly want to give a shot at beating him up... Follow my tips, I guess...

1.) Swing your Fist right into the side of his stomach. HARD. I made my 210lb friend fall to the floor.. There isn't really any muscle/meat in that area, so it's pretty sensitive.

2.) After that, you could use the Upwards palm on his nose... He'll pretty much be open if he's distracted by the pain in the side of his body.

3.) ????

4.) Profit

I won't hold responsible for anything that happens to either of you though.. so.. yeah. Don't blame me?
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*Agrees with iffy*

Don't just walk up to him in a fighting stance. If you really can't avoid the fight, at least let him take the first swing.

As for the solar plexus. Touch inbetween your pecs. Feel that gross little bony thing sticking up? That's your solar plexus. Typically, anywhere on a person's centreline will hurt. If you punch someone in the shoulder their body turns and the power is transferred into turning, right? But if you hit the centre the power has nowhere to go but into them. Nose, throat (NEVER hit someone in the throat!), solar plexus, stomach, bladder, balls.

Doing a straight kick on someone with a full bladder is funny when they automatically piss their pants can be funny.

But people don't really feel punches and kicks until the fight is over. The only way to win a fight without killing each other is with locks, grappling etc. If you're going to keep getting yourself in fights, I recommend you enrol yourself in some Aikido or Jiu Jitsu classes.

But seriously dude, there's much better advice in this thread than fighting tips. I understand that you're 14 and telling a teacher or running away isn't what you want to do, but I recommend you be a man and take one of the other options. Listen to Bruce Lee's advice on "The Art of Fighting Without Fighting".

Hope to hear you're safe and sound and not expelled after tomorrow. But the decision's up to you.
 

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I'm a freshman too and haven't in a while and I hope not to throughout my high school years (ever since I hit this black dude in the face and walked away...but it wasn't a cheap shot - I was just done fighting and I didn't want to hurt him, as it was a stupid feud).

Anyways,
Just show up.
I went to fight after school and one dude pussed out. Boy, did he get ragged on.
Go and fight him.
Don't use weapons, but carry a knife just in case he pulls some shit out.
If you lose, at least you fought him and didn't chicken out.

Advice in fighting?
I got none, just put your dukes up and one foot behind the other and crouch some, I guess.
You're definitely at a disadvantage because of your height, unfortunately.

Hope it goes well and you come out OK.

Good luck.

Edit:

Try to stay out of fights after this one. And get used to sophomores, juniors, and seniors picking on you. Just ignore them. Damn us teenage boys and our testosterones
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Yup. He surely is.

Just remember. No one here is going to respect you for fighting.

I'll respect you if you don't go ahead with it, and I'm sure a lot of other people at your school will do the same.
 

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I'll give the secret to a succesful fight.It always works
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1.If he starts talking before the fight take the oportunity and punch that bastard in the face and then when he goes like
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,keep punching his face until someone stops the fight or he passes out.
2.Give the first punch!
3.A headbutt always works
.....that's all!
Edit:I totally recommend fighting,it's a way to show you are not a gay!
 

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To quote Calvin and Hobbes:

H: "Here's what we tigers do when a ferocious rhino charges."
C: "What?"
H: "We scramble like maniacs for the nearest tree."
C: "What?!?"
H: "It doesn't exactly impress the girls, but no point in impressing them and getting killed, my grandpa always said."



Now to business. Fighting is stupid and should be avoided. However, the best way to avoid fighting is being the toughest one around, so nobody would want to try and fight you.

Failing that... The best way for you to go, since you seem puny, is berserk. No technique, no finesse, no square punches. Kicking, kneeing, headbutting, elbowing, clawing, scratching, biting, poking, chewing... Go wild badger on him. No thinking. Thinking too much will get your face punched in.

And once more, fighting is retarded. Try to avoid it. A hit to your pride is better than (multiple) kicks to the groin.
 

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