Pokémon Let's Go Pikachu & Eevee to omit abilities and held items

Clydefrosch · Sep 18, 2018

did anyone actually believe the game would have any of the (to be fair barely necessary) depth of the mainline games?
it's supposed to be a stroll through a somewhat pretty landscape where you get all the pokemon you can't get in actual pokemon go because there's no points of interest and thus no spawns in your hometown.

pedro702 · Sep 18, 2018

Xzi said:
The only differences between this and Yellow are the wild encounters and Pokeride instead of HMs. I see both as improvements.

preety sure there wont be any tms either, they are stripping everything none essential you cant defend for pokemons not having abilities or held items because they didnt more than 20 years ago...

fire red and leaf green are gen1 remakes and they had all this things, so im guessing if you want full gen 1 remake you need to remove all go stuff, multiplayer, double battles, reduce the number of moves per pokemon, make the type chart glitch and so on.

You cant say they are doing an exact gen1 remake when they keep changing stuff they either do everything or do nothing.

SO yeah i can almost certainly see this having no tms or move tutors either wich will make pokemons movepool even more shallow, that is if they dont make a pokemon only have 4 moves and cant learn anymore unless it evolves or something.

CathyRina · Sep 18, 2018

Xzi said:
Hmm? I thought the biggest problem with IVs/EVs was that they were always kind of invisible and obscure for casual players. Explaining it with plain English, IE "your Pokemon is really good in battles," seems to solve both these problems.

The Problem is that for Online battles having bad stats simply due to luck puts you at a disadvantage for no reason and Pokemon isn't a game where you can work around worse stats. having 1 point less in speed is enough to always attack second in a turn. The only way to mitigate that is by chain breeding for countless hours and since that is not an option in Lets Go imagine how fun the online experience is gonna be against hacked, perfect Pokemon, with Perfect IV's. It was already bad enough in the mainline titles and taking away the smallest barrier to Online play does nothing to prevent it.

smilodon · Sep 18, 2018

Foxi4 said:
It's almost as if it was supposed to be a fun adventure in the world of Pokemon instead of a date with your calculator. Good, axe the EV/IV nonsense next.

Which part of IV/EV ruined your previous pokémon "fun adventure"?

Xzi · Sep 18, 2018

pedro702 said:
preety sure there wont be any tms either

There's been absolutely nothing to suggest that. Since we still have trainer battles the safe assumption is that TMs are just as they were, especially since they've showcased different moves that can be taught to Pikachu and Eevee.

XrosBlader821 said:
The Problem is that for Online battles having bad stats simply due to luck puts you at a disadvantage for no reason and Pokemon isn't a game where you can work around worse stats. having 1 point less in speed is enough to always attack second in a turn. The only way to mitigate that is by chain breeding for countless hours and since that is not an option in Lets Go imagine how fun the online experience is gonna be against hacked, perfect Pokemon, with Perfect IV's. It was already bad enough in the mainline titles and taking away the smallest barrier to Online play does nothing to prevent it.

I don't think hacking online is going to be near as much of an issue on Switch compared to 3DS and previous systems. Not a lot of people are going to pay a subscription fee just to be banned a week later (at most).

pedro702 · Sep 18, 2018

Xzi said:
There's been absolutely nothing to suggest that. Since we still have trainer battles the safe assumption is that TMs are just as they were, especially since they've showcased different moves that can be taught to Pikachu and Eevee.

I don't think hacking online is going to be near as much of an issue on Switch compared to 3DS and previous systems. Not a lot of people are going to pay a subscription fee just to be banned a week later (at most).

last thread monstsh ago i said no abilities and held items along with no tms and people laughted and now look, they are going to get rid of everything noone essential so yeah say goodbye to tms rally and move tutors, probably only pikachu and eeve can even learn new moves using special people.

CathyRina · Sep 18, 2018

Xzi said:
I don't think hacking online is going to be near as much of an issue on Switch compared to 3DS and previous systems. Not a lot of people are going to pay a subscription fee just to be banned a week later (at most).

You underestimate Pokemon hackers. Pokemon games failed to check whenever Pokemon were legit in the past and they will fail to properly check it in the future. Building Pokemon for online legitimately won't be fun until IV's are gone and EV Training significantly sped up or until both are replaced by better, more engaging systems.

Xzi · Sep 18, 2018

pedro702 said:
last thread monstsh ago i said no abilities and held items along with no tms and people laughted and now look, they are going to get rid of everything noone essential so yeah say goodbye to tms rally and move tutors, probably only pikachu and eeve can even learn new moves using special people.

Just baseless speculation on your part, abilities and held items have no connection with TMs.

XrosBlader821 said:
You underestimate Pokemon hackers. Pokemon games failed to check whenever Pokemon were legit in the past and they will fail to properly check it in the future. Building Pokemon legitimately won't be fun until IV's are gone and EV Training significantly sped up or until both are replaced by better, more engaging systems.

Nintendo's checks in general are a lot more thorough on Switch, it's not just about the game itself. Though you'll 100% be detected if you go online with a pirated copy.

pedro702 · Sep 18, 2018

Xzi said:
Just baseless speculation on your part, abilities and held items have no connection with TMs.

they are noone essential things, you dont need them to play the game, heck back in the day on entire gen1 and 2 i never used any tms just hms becuase there were one of each and one never wanted to spend it

CathyRina · Sep 18, 2018

Xzi said:
Nintendo's checks in general are a lot more thorough on Switch, it's not just about the game itself. Though you'll 100% be detected if you go online with a pirated copy.

Except I'm not talking about piracy... Do you even know how hacked Pokemon are being generated?

Xzi · Sep 18, 2018

XrosBlader821 said:
Except I'm not talking about piracy... Do you even know how hacked Pokemon are being generated?

Whether your copy is pirated or not, you'd need a hacked Switch to introduce hacked Pokemon. A hacked Switch is detectable the instant it goes online, and the more stuff you do online the more likely you are to be detected. And again, you'd have to pay for a least a month of online just for the "privilege" of being banned.

pedro702 said:
they are noone essential things, you dont need them to play the game, heck back in the day on entire gen1 and 2 i never used any tms just hms becuase there were one of each and one never wanted to spend it

I should note that even Pokemon Go has TMs. You get them as rewards for beating raids and other special events.

Foxi4 · Sep 18, 2018

robingilh said:
Which part of IV/EV ruined your previous pokémon "fun adventure"?

All of them.

graeme122 · Sep 18, 2018

I wonder if the look that Let's go has will be the same as the 2019 game or will we get a BOTW look.

Enryx25 · Sep 18, 2018

graeme122 said:
I wonder if the look that Let's go has will be the same as the 2019 game or will we get a BOTW look.

Pokemon Switch will probably look like this.

CathyRina · Sep 18, 2018

Xzi said:
Whether your copy is pirated or not, you'd need a hacked Switch to introduce hacked Pokemon. A hacked Switch is detectable the instant it goes online, and the more stuff you do online the more likely you are to be detected. And again, you'd have to pay for a least a month of online just for the "privilege" of being banned.

Or you get CFW on one switch and trade them locally to a second one. Gamefreak has yet to figure out a system capable of distinguishing perfectly faked Pokemon and having two copies of a device isn't uncommon in hacking scenes. Again, you are underestimating Pokemon hackers.

TheMCNerd2017 · Sep 18, 2018

I already knew simply from watching the promo videos and images that abilities and held items were not going to be present. Probably to keep compatibility or stay simple like Pokemon GO. Would not be surprised if moves were physical or special based on their typing as well.

Deleted User · Sep 18, 2018

New people who join into the franchise with Let's Go are in for an awful fucking shock when all these "new" (hint: Correct) mechanics are suddenly throw in.

graeme122 · Sep 18, 2018

Enryx25 said:
Pokemon Switch will probably look like this.

Looks ok what engine is it using.

Xzi · Sep 18, 2018

XrosBlader821 said:
Or you get CFW on one switch and trade them locally to a second one. Gamefreak has yet to figure out a system capable of distinguishing perfectly faked Pokemon and having two copies of a device isn't uncommon in hacking scenes. Again, you are underestimating Pokemon hackers.

I guess so. All that time and effort would be just as well spent catching a perfect IV/EV Pokemon. Or you can just import them from PoGo.

Kourin · Sep 18, 2018

NeoSlyde said:
Guys.. it sounds really great !
You know why? I think that Nintendo will go in 2 directions. Since the fans where bashing SM and USUM for their easy level and casual gameplay.

So my guess is that from now. Nintendo will release two Major Pokémon Games.
One being super ultra easy (Pokémon Let’s Go) for kids etc...
And One following the old formula with adding new mechanics and increase greatly the difficulty and complex and great story. For long time fans.

This is how I’m seeing it.

It's honestly cute that you think GameFreak cares that much and it's not because they realize that even if they put minimal effort into Pokemon it'll sell like hotcakes.

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