Nintendo gives more details about its online service, cloud saves get deleted if you cancel your sub

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We got a glimpse of some new information about Nintendo's Switch Online Service yesterday during the Direct, but most of what was shown there was already known. To help shed a little more light on just what a subscription entails, Nintendo put a FAQ up on their site. The details are as follows:

  • As already stated before the Direct, all Switch users (used to be only launch users) can get a 7 day free trial. This gives you access to online, voice chat, cloud saves, and the NES games.
  • Those two wireless NES controllers are only purchasable if you have a current paid Nintendo Switch Online sub.
  • The full list of 20 playable NES games for subscribers was revealed: Soccer, Tennis, Donkey Kong, Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros. 1 and 3, Balloon Fight, Ice Climber, Dr. Mario, The Legend of Zelda, Double Dragon, River City Ransom, Ghost's N Goblins, Tecmo Bowl, Gradius, Pro Wrestling, Excitebike, Yoshi, Ice Hockey, and Baseball.
  • Each month, a new set of games will be added to the group.
  • October will add NES Open Golf, Solomon's Key, and Super Dodge Ball
  • November additions are Mighty Bomb Jack, Twinbee, and Metroid.
  • December brings Wario's Woods, Adventures of Lolo, and Ninja Gaiden.
  • Additionally, if you ever lapse in your subscription, you will lose all cloud data. "Save data stored with Save Data Cloud cannot be kept outside of the duration of your Nintendo Switch Online membership." If you cancel or let it expire, you'll lose all data saved on the cloud.
  • If you play the NES games, you need to check in every 7 days by going online to verify your account.

:arrow: Source: Nintendo UK
:arrow: Source: Nintendo of America
 

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If people actually stand up against it, like the PC gamers did and stop making excuses, this whole nonsense would be done.
This is EXACTLY what needs to be done.
Customers need to fucking stand up to it put a stop to Nintendo and its bullshit.

Nintendo in all honesty doesn't give a shit about customer input nor its fandom, they just do whatever the fuck they feel like expecting everyone to go along with it. They really need a hit where it hurts them the most, and that's in the money.
Hit their greed, and they will have no other option but to start listening to their customers and fandom instead of just ignoring them like they have been doing for decades.
 

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I wonder if - presuming Nintendo offers an automatic renewal of the monthly sub - if the cloud saves will remain between the transition of one month to the next, or if the saves will be tied to the "current" month.

What really bums me out is that there's not even an option to download the cloud data.
 
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This is EXACTLY what needs to be done.
Customers need to fucking stand up to it put a stop to Nintendo and its bullshit.

Nintendo in all honesty doesn't give a shit about customer input nor its fandom, they just do whatever the fuck they feel like expecting everyone to go along with it. They really need a hit where it hurts them the most, and that's in the money.
Hit their greed, and they will have no other option but to start listening to their customers and fandom instead of just ignoring them like they have been doing for decades.
I WAS considering getting a Switch after the Direct today, but I think I'll give some money to Yuzu and Cemu instead.
 

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Wait why is no one talking about this:


The controllers won't work on the Switch if you don't have a current subscription? Wtf?
I would imagine the controllers can still be used if you don't have a subscription, you'll just have to buy them from scalpers on ebay for 10x their normal price.
 

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Wait why is no one talking about this:


The controllers won't work on the Switch if you don't have a current subscription? Wtf?
Lol didn't even see that. Constant remasters and a lack of new games, their fucked up policies, losing your cloud saves when subscription stops and even wireless controllers not working without a subscription. And that after everybody thought Nintendo finally listened to their hardcore audience and that they finally maybe had changed. They're really doing their best to make their console be another fiasco again
 

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I would imagine the controllers can still be used if you don't have a subscription, you'll just have to buy them from scalpers on ebay for 10x their normal price.
That unfortunately sounds plausible, given how Ninty's crap works. Buyers probably have to have some kind of confirmed NNID. One can only HOPE that there's not some firmware killswitch built into it that goes off without an account and stops it from pairing. Or a LOT of secondhand buyers could get real pissed.
 
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Wait why is no one talking about this:


The controllers won't work on the Switch if you don't have a current subscription? Wtf?
What? What are you talking about? It says that the controllers are "only purchasable if you have a current paid Nintendo Switch Online sub". The key word there is purchasable, not usable...
 

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If you play the NES games, you need to check in every 7 days by going online to verify your account.

Maybe I'm just tired but I don't understand what this is saying? If I play NES games then I need to go online and verify my account every 7 days... Or what?
 
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I would imagine the controllers can still be used if you don't have a subscription, you'll just have to buy them from scalpers on ebay for 10x their normal price.
Yeesh. Seems like Nintendo and scalpers have almost a symbiotic relationship at this point.

Gonna quote myself because it's just as topical as it was a week or so ago:
Whether Nintendo likes it or not, they are directly competing with free community homebrew. And right now, they're losing.
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What? What are you talking about? It says that the controllers are "only purchasable if you have a current paid Nintendo Switch Online sub". The key word there is purchasable, not usable...
The lack of specification confused me. Still, given Ninty's track record I would not even be surprised.
 

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Maybe I'm just tired but I don't understand what this is saying? If I play NES games then I need to go online and verify my account every 7 days... Or what?
Yes, exactly that.

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One more reason to abandon the Switch. As ShadowOne333 put it, the only thing Nintendo understands is money. :/ Buying their systems just encourages them. I sadly say this as nominally a Nintendo fan.

I already have my Switch. Just going to stick with community support and updates at this point. I sincerely dislike the direction Nintendo has chosen with their services. I like the Switch as a system, but the support is (ironically enough) just not all there.

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