It seems that is the get-out-of-jail-free card.
Although, it would be interesting to see a debate between lawyers on the legalities of holding your purchases hostage, purely for academic reasons.
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Although, it would be interesting to see a debate between lawyers on the legalities of holding your purchases hostage, purely for academic reasons.
I was saying if you dont want to get yourself banned and still can sysupdate. (You still get banned from using nsps, but this ban does let you update your firmware.)
Your purchases aren't intricately linked to your switch, they are linked to your account. The switch is just the tool you bought to make use of said content.
If said tool is compromised and its connection to the network is no longer secured, of course they can block it. It has no connection to the purchase of your licenses.
They aren't obligated to provide you with the means to make use of the game purchases, it's like buying a blu-ray of Blade Runner and then calling Warner Bros. to ask "Yo, where's the TV i need to watch this?"
Nothing is held hostage, there's nothing to discuss
I got banned a few weeks ago and I can still download stuff from the CDN with my cert fine. System update says I have the latest, I just downloaded Sonic Mania and updated a game. I still can't access eShop. I'm guessing there was a point where they just went "fuck it" and started blocking CDNs completely from that point forward. It doesn't seem to be retroactive.
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This is a new second degree ban. They give the first ban, and then if you poke the CDN they now give the second. If you don't poke the CDN you retain access to some features.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/...here_originals_are_damaged_destroyed_or_lost/ arguably covers that one, though we would have to read the terms to see if we were instead given a perpetual rental or something.
As far as having to provide access I am less sure. On the one hand it is their private luxury network and that probably says all that needs to be said, however I can't rule out some lawyer making a "reasonable person needs access" type argument, though that would be a tricky one.
Anyway no great loss and time to start rehosting game updates and firmware updates. It has been done for a variety of other systems in the past, no reason to not do it again or expect to have to do it again here.
So just to be clear, this full degree ban from all online services is only if you used your own cert for CDN?
Easier just to revoke everything than having to handle tiered bans, and any game that wants it will be carrying the relevant updates for those without internet. No loss for them for blocking updates, and indeed maybe even a few perks.
Granted every time I have seen this in the past where it is reasonably relevant (so mainly the PS3 and 360) updates could be found and presented by USB or something, that even being an "official" method. I see that more as an amusing quirk though rather than anything troubling.
I can understand that it’s easier for them but it still seems a bit too much for me. Patch the freeshop and leave the firmware updates available for banned consoles would be only logical for me. Imagine some new malware, bug, wtv, manages to screw your switch on 5.1 and 6.0 fixed that issue. Banned people would loose access (directly) to urgent bug fixes
I kind of disagree with almost everything you said there, but unfortunately I have kids screaming at me from all directions so can't commit to a proper response at the moment. To be continued...
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Atum uses seperate servers for dispatching system updates, game updates, DLC, and games.
If they wanted to keep collateral to a minimum, they would've implemented rights checking and only applied bans to the DLC and game services.
This wasn't done preventatively, this was done punitively.
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