Piracy seems to be a problem...

Yoshimashin · Oct 16, 2007

Does anyone feel bothered that a lot of people on this site do not pay for their video games? Im no saint myself, I mean I have almost every rom for every system in the past 20 years or so. If things keep going the way they are now, will video game prices sky rocket? Or is there no impact on the market due to piracy?

What concerns me is the ease of piracy. Any jackass can buy a flash set on the internet for $30 and never pay for a DS game again. Im guessing due to the quantity of people buying flash sets and not paying for games, the companies are actually at the point where it will hurt them.

I make an effort to buy the games I truly like. I have an extensive reserve list at GameStop (lol) of about 30 games coming out in the next year. But the sad truth is, there are still lots of games I dont pay for, and the companies suffer for my laziness. On the flip side, however, there are lots of terrible games coming out. Look at the recent releases for the Wii. I could program these games fresh out of game design classes on my own. They are garbage. People shouldnt be paying $50 for this trash, either.

Im just curious how you people feel about the situtation.

fischyan95 · Oct 16, 2007

I think it has become a problem, with all the pre-teens with flashcarts now. They will learn that they never have to pay for games, and won't, unlike most older people with flashcarts that guy the good games. I personally own ever 1st part Nintendo game I've played

Skye07 · Oct 16, 2007

Piracy does have an impact on the games market but as long as there's enough ppl paying for their games (I buy games I like) the companies who make good games will survive while the crappy ones will die a horrible death. Anyways, you don't have to fear for the big 3 because they get enough money off their consoles/handhelds.

Yoshimashin · Oct 16, 2007

Companies make next to nothing for hardware alone, its all based through software.

Hadrian · Oct 16, 2007

It has a good/bad effect. Good as I've managed to play many games that I'll never would've bought.

Bad as most of these people will never know the pleasure of having an actual cart but then they probably like having more money.

Maktub · Oct 16, 2007

Aha.
Wait, tvgames prices rocketing? Don't you know it's physichally impossible to go faster than light*?

*equivalent speed of square meter price acceleration in Spain.

TaMs · Oct 16, 2007

hm yes it's a problem. flashcards especially are so easily gained and easy to use.(even my friend little sister has one. and she's like 10 years old or something)
Modchips are not so much of a problem.
I personally buy only games for playstations and some for pc, don't ask why.
And i'm only buying so called awesome games which gets like 8-10/10 from every review. :A

+ i've played many games what i wouldn't have bought
- i don't enjoy playing them so much. If i buy it then i'll play it so much that i'll unlock everything etc. (Atleast try, if i don't get bored before it)

Old times were good when you got like 1-2 games year and played them whole year. Not possible novadays.

Yoshimashin · Oct 16, 2007

Its possible to move faster than light...

Hadrian · Oct 16, 2007

QUOTE(Yoshimashin @ Oct 16 2007 said:
Companies make next to nothing for hardware alone, its all based through software.

Microsoft and Sony don't no, but Nintendo make a big profit on DS and Wii consoles as well as software.

Yoshimashin · Oct 16, 2007

Im off to work, but ill be checking this when I get back. Make some good points for me

Skye07 · Oct 16, 2007

QUOTE(Yoshimashin @ Oct 16 2007 said:
Companies make next to nothing for hardware alone, its all based through software.

True but Ninty, Sony & Micro$oft WILL make money off their consoles/handhelds (Nintendo, in fact, already does, Sony & MS will follow in a year or so)

But then again, software/game developers suffer a great deal I guess.

But you can also think about it this way:

Imagine you cannot get any roms/warez/... there would be alot of people who just won't buy that one game because they're not very interested in it but if you can get it for free you'll be more eager to download and check it out and eventually play it a bit.

Glacius0 · Oct 16, 2007

QUOTE(Skye07 @ Oct 16 2007 said:
Piracy does have an impact on the games market but as long as there's enough ppl paying for their games (I buy games I like) the companies who make good games will survive while the crappy ones will die a horrible death. Anyways, you don't have to fear for the big 3 because they get enough money off their consoles/handhelds.

The thing is that it'll be harder for companies to take risks on innovative new games. It's actually already hard enough as it is, when you consider games like Okami on PS2.

Skye07 · Oct 16, 2007

True but look at Nintendo, they risked a big deal with the Wii but now their stocks are at their highest points ever. People won't keep buying games that are just the same as the previous but only with some polished graphics and a new storyline.

falcon64z8 · Oct 16, 2007

I believe the market Nintendo has with the DS is really big and we the pirates have very little effect in it. In that not too many people are aware of such a flashcart, the masses are the casual gamers and they have no idea about the benefits of having an R4 in your DS. Piracy with video games is big, but not as large as music is with p2p. I purchase games on console and pc because its too much time to get them and have them working. Plus I only support games that are good or a franchise that I want to see again. It seem to me that only portable that are pirated because of how easy it is and it does not take very long to get.

One more thing, some of these companies, EA, charges games in a high over price rate and it just pisses me off that when I buy such a game it is not worth its value and very buggy. Thats why im very selective on what I purchase.

MrKuenning · Oct 16, 2007

Honestly, I wouldnt have bought the DS if it wernt for flash carts, so right there they get money, then I bought a few more DS then I run around telling everyone HOW AWSOME the DS is. I have had 3 more friends all buy DS's all will get games and aseseries... I dont view it as any more illegial than downloading a song or for that matter a photo off of the internet.

Anytime somthing is copyrighted and you posess it witout permission its not legal. So when I stop downloading photos, I will stop downloading roms.

Plus Nintendo has WAY outsold all of the other brands and their stock is second in JP, I would say they arnt hurting.

On the PC side of things, I download games and by the ones worth playing. IE.. Halflife 2...

So many games for PC, DS, Wii... are crap and I wouldnt play longer than 5 mins. I personaly dont feel bad at all downloading them and then discarding them

I call it my "Extended Demo"

theorgan · Oct 16, 2007

do you want someone walking into your home and stealing your tangible video games? same thing when you steal them from the internet. fuck the word piracy. it should be known as theft.

Psyfira · Oct 16, 2007

I think the games industry will eventually go the same way as the music industry; no cartridges, all games availiable on download for a much more reasonable price than releasing them on disc (no packaging, distribution or transport fees to pay). The only difference between the two scenarios is the copy protection that is built into games consoles making it harder for people to pirate than with music. Other than that it's the same scenario, the music industry has proven that people will pay for affordable downloadable content they could otherwise obtain for free. The convienience of easy-to-use legal download services and peace of mind will lure people towards these paid-for services.

The main reason why illegal music downloads caught on was the same reason why the singles chart died; the prices singles retailed for on CD were just ridiculous. £3.99 for the song and a few remixes you probably don't want. Legal download services reduced this fee to approx. 80p.

Parents will still buy lousy franchise games for their kids. That will never change

[Edit] Come to think of it the "impact on the industry" argument extends to preowned games as well. Buying preowned titles doesn't help the developers at all, just the retail chains but I'm sure I'm not the only person who doesn't feel any guilt whatsoever that at least half of my games are second-hand.

Hooya · Oct 16, 2007

QUOTE(theorgan @ Oct 16 2007 said:
do you want someone walking into your home and stealing your tangible video games? same thing when you steal them from the internet. fuck the word piracy. it should be known as theft.

Not even remotely close to the same thing.

*Layzie* · Oct 16, 2007

well they aint hav to make a game £30

thats too fuckin much

they shud member that ALOT of kids wanna buy video games

how can they afford .....buy 1 game per month isnt alll that good isit

and plus yh video game is lik hip hop now

rappers give 2 shits bout makin money from music....it comes from elsewher now

this is why most rappers got clothing lines and all that

all video game companies will think of a way to make money another way .....u dont think they got famous thru regular minds.

theorgan · Oct 16, 2007

QUOTE(Hooya @ Oct 16 2007 said:
QUOTE(theorgan @ Oct 16 2007 said:

do you want someone walking into your home and stealing your tangible video games? same thing when you steal them from the internet. fuck the word piracy. it should be known as theft.

Not even remotely close to the same thing.

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you are right actually. cause those who do it are too chicken shit to steal something while not having a computer screen to hide behind. so in that sense you are correct.

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