Hardware Computer Overheats insanely fast.

Dominator211 · Jun 19, 2018

I'm doing a favor for a friend here. He has an HP Pavilion (D6000 I think) and when I saw him a few weeks ago he said there was something wrong with it. It was a little slow on the boot but as soon as hit the desktop the fan went to 100%. I paid it little mind because PC fans at 100% are something I know very well (perhaps too well...) I went to download speccy to monitor the temperatures to see exactly what I was dealing with. (we were at a campground and wifi was bad) so after about 5 minutes the heat coming out of the fan was blazing. I rushed through the install and checked the temps. I kid you not this thing was running at 205.F (right at the T.Junction) which then made me do a force shutdown to protect this thing from killing itself anymore. I start to crack it open because I needed to check the thermal paste application and after an extremely strenuous process of taking it apart I finally go to look at what I wanted. The thermal paste was actually decent. I didn't have any paste on me so repasting was out of the question and it didn't look like it would have helped anyway. I don't have any pictures of it reaching the T.Junction but it did in a matter of minutes. I have a few theories the one I am most confident with is that the CPU or something on the MOBO is faulty and is causing it to put out immense amounts of heat. I think the culprit is the CPU. I have no idea what socket this thing uses but because of the age of the laptop, the CPU is user Replaceable/Upgradeable. I am turning to you all once again and see what you guys think is the problem.

TotalInsanity4 · Jun 19, 2018

Honestly if it were me I'd clear all the thermal paste off and try liquid metal before trying to swap the CPU

CMDreamer · Jun 19, 2018

The Intel i5 460M, has two possible sockets: BGA1288, PGA988.

Looks like the one on the picture is a PGA988, as it's not soldered to the motherboard.

Myself, I would remove Google Chrome (it uses a thread for each tab, AFAIK, so it's not resource friendly at all). Also would remove any antimalware thingy that's installed and running.

I can see on the second pic that the most used resource is the HDD, considering how old the computer is, I would suspect that it's beginning to die, and it might be full of damaged sectors that cause constant I/O operations on it trying to access data.

I'm not very fond of HP computers as they tend to have poor heating dispersion design.

gameboy · Jun 19, 2018

you could get a $30 fire tablet that works better than that old hunk-a-junk

FAST6191 · Jun 19, 2018

A DV6000 that still sort of works? Wonders never cease. Most of those of that era used a nvidia GPU that... there was a massive class action, you might even be entitled to a few pennies (can't remember if it was on the model list in the end, still has a self destructing chip though).

How good is looks good on the paste though? If there is a nice little void then yeah. Also I assume you checked the fans -- it was not the worst model I have ever seen for fans clogging with fluff but I had to rip the one a client had apart more than once in a year.

SonyUSA · Jun 19, 2018

That paste does not look good to me at all and is the cause of your problems, remove it all and repaste it and your problems will be solved

Also I agree on the other comment, HDD is failing and thus silent IO errors destroying its performance.

DinohScene · Jun 19, 2018

I agree with the cleaning thermalpaste.
But do not use "liquid metal"
Gallium eats away at aluminium and does negatively affect copper as well.
Not to mention it's conductive so a spill can lead to a short.

Originality · Jun 19, 2018

Personally I’d also look into the possibly of underclocking and downvolting the CPU. Sometimes it’s the only way to save older HP laptops that weren’t able to keep up with their crappy cooling solutions.

Dominator211 · Jun 19, 2018

TotalInsanity4 said:
Honestly if it were me I'd clear all the thermal paste off and try liquid metal before trying to swap the CPU

And risk frying the whole board

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CMDreamer said:
The Intel i5 460M, has two possible sockets: BGA1288, PGA988.

Looks like the one on the picture is a PGA988, as it's not soldered to the motherboard.

Myself, I would remove Google Chrome (it uses a thread for each tab, AFAIK, so it's not resource friendly at all). Also would remove any antimalware thingy that's installed and running.

I can see on the second pic that the most used resource is the HDD, considering how old the computer is, I would suspect that it's beginning to die, and it might be full of damaged sectors that cause constant I/O operations on it trying to access data.

I'm not very fond of HP computers as they tend to have poor heating dispersion design.

It was a very fresh install of windows 10 I use chrome on my crultrabook with a celeron 2955u and it never gets past 120f

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FAST6191 said:
A DV6000 that still sort of works? Wonders never cease. Most of those of that era used a nvidia GPU that... there was a massive class action, you might even be entitled to a few pennies (can't remember if it was on the model list in the end, still has a self destructing chip though).

How good is looks good on the paste though? If there is a nice little void then yeah. Also I assume you checked the fans -- it was not the worst model I have ever seen for fans clogging with fluff but I had to rip the one a client had apart more than once in a year.

I did check the fans and the temps were slightly better after the fact but still worrysome

driverdis · Jun 19, 2018

FAST6191 said:
A DV6000 that still sort of works? Wonders never cease. Most of those of that era used a nvidia GPU that... there was a massive class action, you might even be entitled to a few pennies (can't remember if it was on the model list in the end, still has a self destructing chip though).

How good is looks good on the paste though? If there is a nice little void then yeah. Also I assume you checked the fans -- it was not the worst model I have ever seen for fans clogging with fluff but I had to rip the one a client had apart more than once in a year.

I got one of these for free from a garage sale a year ago and it still mostly works. I even got a brand new sealed extended battery for it for 5$ at a thrift store. I can tell the GPU is on it's way out since it sometimes has issues posting but it stays running once in Windows 10.

FAST6191 · Jun 19, 2018

driverdis said:
I got one of these for free from a garage sale a year ago and it still mostly works. I even got a brand new sealed extended battery for it for 5$ at a thrift store. I can tell the GPU is on it's way out since it sometimes has issues posting but it stays running once in Windows 10.

There were some intel versions out there. That said trouble posting was the start of the end of my client's one, once including him on an upcoming trip, my going to a concert that day and needing to catch a train and a very frantic look over trying to diagnose something I could not reproduce.

driverdis · Jun 19, 2018

FAST6191 said:
There were some intel versions out there. That said trouble posting was the start of the end of my client's one, once including him on an upcoming trip, my going to a concert that day and needing to catch a train and a very frantic look over trying to diagnose something I could not reproduce.

I double checked mine and I have the AMD version. It overheats like crazy doing any sort of tasks and the GPU functions although it gets in a few post bootloops from the GPU.

TotalInsanity4 · Jun 20, 2018

DinohScene said:
Not to mention it's conductive so a spill can lead to a short.

Dominator211 said:
And risk frying the whole board

It's really not difficult to apply properly as long as you're careful and dont just empty the syringe onto the die

DinohScene · Jun 20, 2018

TotalInsanity4 said:
It's really not difficult to apply properly as long as you're careful and dont just empty the syringe onto the die

I still don't find the fact that there's gallium in it comforting.
I like me equipment to last.

Uiaad · Jun 20, 2018

DinohScene said:
I still don't find the fact that there's gallium in it comforting.
I like me equipment to last.

It's fine as long as your name isn't Linus

TotalInsanity4 · Jun 20, 2018

uiaad said:
It's fine as long as your name isn't Linus

LinusDropTips

Although ironically that video proved that it's possible to come back from catastrophically spilling liquid metal all over a motherboard as long as you clean it properly

Uiaad · Jun 20, 2018

Some linkage for your approval - seems you can't use timestamps in the embed its at 4m52s

Dominator211 · Jun 20, 2018

TotalInsanity4 said:
It's really not difficult to apply properly as long as you're careful and dont just empty the syringe onto the die

Linus tech tips

TotalInsanity4 · Jun 20, 2018

Dominator211 said:
Linus tech tips

Which, again, is why you don't go gung-ho and just push against the plunger

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