Homebrew hacked psp vs hacked 3ds for retro emulation

Clydefrosch

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For the 3DS though, some emulators are still kinda buggy. Which you'd think that with Nintendo releasing SNES and GBA games on the eShop, someone would have made an injection tool already, like we had with the Wii in 2008.



The PSP all comes down to the model being used, because they weren't all made evenly. Where most people had the PSP-1000 (myself included), the PSP-3000 is actually the better model, with the PSPgo feeling obscure with the slide screen/controls. However, less about the aesthetics and more about the performance. The first three models of the PSP used a dodgy memory card, the Pro Duo cards were horrible and let the systems down badly. While the PSPgo, got the M2 card as it's external source of storage which improved the quality of some of the emulators (though the PSPgo has the smallest screen).



It's just somewhat pleasing, to have the controls near the screen with GBA emulation because that's where the controls were on the original GBA (the SP had it's controls too close together).

Then for anyone who's played a SupaBoy, it's also nice to have the controls at the side (with less bulk because of the cartridge slot).

Which the 2DS is the best console, plus it has a better battery life than most 3DS revisions. I thought the 2DS was garbage when I first saw it, but then is soon became apparent that it's actually the best model for playing emulators (plus games that don't rely on the 3D).



Thanks to SONY adding 16GB storage and changing the memory cards to M2, since SONY thought the M2 cards would throw people off because of the popularity in the Pro Duo cards. But it backfired on SONY when the console was hacked in just under five weeks of it's release. :rofl2:


you're commited to this nonsense, aren't you?
1. there are injectors for both gba and snes vc games. the gba injector is literally what we all have been refering too when we say 3ds plays gba games. its using what comes down to a gba on a chip to play these games perfectly (though without savestates and the like)
in addition to that, snes9x for o3ds plays all games (except maybe fx ones) fullspeed on o3ds with all the goodies that emulators bring with them.
2. i've had both a 1000 and a go, the only difference between the two hardwarewise is 32 (or 64?) mb of additional ram in the go which wasn't even used by a few emulators. sd card didn't do anything to the performance of emulators. that all came down to it only being a 333mhz processor and developers giving up on improving performance eventually.
3. again, thats subjective but whatever.
4. i have no idea why you keep bringing in the supaboy... we can all agree that 9 out of 10 of the portable consoles playing original snes/n64/gc carts are clunky and stupid as heck. o2ds is using the same hardware and i believe same battery as either the original or the xl o3ds. if you didn't use 3d on those, battery life should be equal. form factor again being subjective but i heard good things about the 2ds for people with big hands.
5. the go was good (enough) for emulators, but a pain to play actual psp games on due to the terrible stick placement. unfortunately, on mine, the x or o button stopped working properly (light presses wont register even though the button clicks) so i'm not using it anymore.
doesn't change that unless OP wants to play ps1 or psp games, 3ds is the way to go this time around.
 

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there have been injection methods forever hell just look up "New Super Ultimate Injector for 3DS"

I kinda gave up on the 3DS in the beginning of 2017, which I just became contempt with the three emulators I have across my collection of 3DS consoles (SNES/NES/GBA).

Though if there's injections, the emulators are somewhat obsolete because injected titles have better playability (seems the case on the Wii and SNES Classic).

the bottleneck of emulators wasn't memorystick speeds it was the cpu itself

Unfortunately with the PSP and the Pro Duo sticks, there was some compatibility issues regarding emulators because back in the day I had a handful of SONY's 2GB sticks and some just weren't up to the loading rates as there were defective sticks on the market and there still is. There was never a sure way of knowing if the stick was genuine, or if they were genuine, SONY didn't really sign them off properly at the quality control and produced thousands. I gave up on the SONY sticks and went with a 2GB SanDisk for my PSP1000, you'd be surprised at how a bad memory stick makes the CPU lag.


you're committed to this nonsense, aren't you?

Pretty much, yes. ^_^

1. there are injectors for both gba and snes vc games. the gba injector is literally what we all have been refering too when we say 3ds plays gba games. its using what comes down to a gba on a chip to play these games perfectly (though without savestates and the like)
in addition to that, snes9x for o3ds plays all games (except maybe fx ones) fullspeed on o3ds with all the goodies that emulators bring with them.

That, I now understand. I've got 9x on four of my 3DS consoles, including my 2DS. Which isn't actually that great of an emulator, though it near perfectly plays Mario World, Mario Allstars and A Link to the Past it's just buggy about 10% of the time (crashes constantly with Rock'n Roll Racing though).

2. i've had both a 1000 and a go, the only difference between the two hardwarewise is 32 (or 64?) mb of additional ram in the go which wasn't even used by a few emulators. sd card didn't do anything to the performance of emulators. that all came down to it only being a 333mhz processor and developers giving up on improving performance eventually.

It wasn't an SD card, although I wish it was because SONY's ProDuo cards were all created unevenly.

333Mhz, is the maximum out of the box. But it can be overclocked, to a further 33Mhz which was deemed the last safest possible speed to run the PSP, although people had run their PSP's above 500Mhz and basically fried (bricked) them (they cried - the community laughed). :rofl2:

However, the 3DS, is just 266Mhz out of the box an can be overclocked just over double. The N3DS has a clock of upto 800Mhz, which is understandably more because unlike the PSP, the N3DS is a newer console. It would be fairer to compare the PSP to the likes of maybe the DSlite (133Mhz), in terms of age. B-)

3. again, thats subjective but whatever.

2DS = Ideal for GBA. :gba:

3DS = Okayish for GBA SP. :hateit:

Though the clear winner is actually the DSlite with a flash cart... But, moving on. :yaynds:

4. i have no idea why you keep bringing in the supaboy... we can all agree that 9 out of 10 of the portable consoles playing original snes/n64/gc carts are clunky and stupid as heck. o2ds is using the same hardware and i believe same battery as either the original or the xl o3ds. if you didn't use 3d on those, battery life should be equal. form factor again being subjective but i heard good things about the 2ds for people with big hands.

Because even though the SupaBoy plays the original cartridges, it actually doesn't because it's basically a portable Hyperkin console and anyone who's read about or seen the Hyperkin consoles, know they're software emulation (ripping the ROM from a physical cartridge). So to compare the 2DS for SNES emulation and an emulation handheld, seems pretty fair in my opinion.

5. the go was good (enough) for emulators, but a pain to play actual psp games on due to the terrible stick placement. unfortunately, on mine, the x or o button stopped working properly (light presses wont register even though the button clicks) so i'm not using it anymore.
doesn't change that unless OP wants to play ps1 or psp games, 3ds is the way to go this time around.

I don't actually think anyone played PSP games on the PSPgo, except when SONY decided to slow down the production of releases on UMD and force the standard of digital downloads... Which didn't work and SONY put the Vita games on cards.
 

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Because even though the SupaBoy plays the original cartridges, it actually doesn't because it's basically a portable Hyperkin console and anyone who's read about or seen the Hyperkin consoles, know they're software emulation (ripping the ROM from a physical cartridge).

I thought the Supaboys were SNES clones - not emulation. It's the Retron 5 which uses software emulation.

Also - it's totally fair to compare the N3DS to the PSP if someone new to using hacked handheld consoles in 2018 simply wants a solution to best fit their (probably quite specific) needs. This individual might not care so much about things that were impressive back in the day.
 
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Jesus, maybe you should stop trying to give people advice when you don't know what you're talking about.

Do you even know what you're talking about?

I know more about the PSP, Wii, Dreamcast, PS2 and PS3 homebrew and emulation scene than I know overall of the 3DS scene and the PSP emulation scene hasn't moved much in the past 5-8 years so I know what I know.

I thought the Supaboys were SNES clones - not emulation. It's the Retron 5 which uses software emulation.

It's a clone, but it's also emulation to an extent (SoC - not a really fan of system on a chip consoles).

Also - it's totally fair to compare the N3DS to the PSP if someone new to using hacked handheld consoles in 2018 simply wants a solution to best fit their (probably quite specific) needs. This individual might not care so much about things that were impressive back in the day.

I would say it's more fair to compare the 3DS to the PSVita, although it's true more people know of the PSP's emulation capabilities.
 

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Do you even know what you're talking about?

I know more about the PSP, Wii, Dreamcast, PS2 and PS3 homebrew and emulation scene than I know overall of the 3DS scene and the PSP emulation scene hasn't moved much in the past 5-8 years so I know what I know.


that's my point. you don't seem to know what you're talking about in regards to the 3ds and because of that you're talking nonsense when you spread the idea that the psp does better than it in any way that isn't playing psp or psx games.
 

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that's my point. you don't seem to know what you're talking about in regards to the 3ds and because of that you're talking nonsense when you spread the idea that the psp does better than it in any way that isn't playing psp or psx games.

I mean he also talked about people overclocking the psp past its max clock of 333mhz which I've never heard about lol
 

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that's my point. you don't seem to know what you're talking about in regards to the 3ds and because of that you're talking nonsense when you spread the idea that the psp does better than it in any way that isn't playing psp or psx games.

The PSP does do better though, it's all just a matter of different preference and opinion. The PSP is much easier to hack, which makes it the gamers choice to use a PSP. My 3DS consoles required a GateWay cart and additional files on the SD before I could even begin with CFW.

I mean he also talked about people overclocking the psp past its max clock of 333mhz which I've never heard about lol

Just because you've never heard of PSP overclocking over 333Mhz, doesn't mean it's not a thing. You talk as if you know everything, but clearly you just have 333Mhz embedded into your mind because it's what you've been told. The only reason nobody hears so much of overclocking past 333Mhz, is because DarkAlex (if you didn't already know was a PSP hacker) knew the risks of including the option to overclock past 333Mhz in the official CFW's (plus the fact it wasn't entirely needed), but there were unofficial CFW's that had "experimental" features... But I won't go into that, you've never heard of the unofficial experimental CFW's.
 

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The PSP does do better though, it's all just a matter of different preference and opinion. The PSP is much easier to hack, which makes it the gamers choice to use a PSP. My 3DS consoles required a GateWay cart and additional files on the SD before I could even begin with CFW.



Just because you've never heard of PSP overclocking over 333Mhz, doesn't mean it's not a thing. You talk as if you know everything, but clearly you just have 333Mhz embedded into your mind because it's what you've been told. The only reason nobody hears so much of overclocking past 333Mhz, is because DarkAlex (if you didn't already know was a PSP hacker) knew the risks of including the option to overclock past 333Mhz in the official CFW's (plus the fact it wasn't entirely needed), but there were unofficial CFW's that had "experimental" features... But I won't go into that, you've never heard of the unofficial experimental CFW's.

while the psp is probably quicker hacked, that doesn't make it perform any better. also, the 3ds is long since past gateway carts and the likes. its a pretty straight forward process as well.
it also doesn't change that emulation and injection on 3ds is bringing a better gaming experience than the psp could.

as for overclocking, there's a reason why it never became a staple function. besides only adding a drop in the bucket, it took away from battery even more than 333 did.
 

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The PSP does do better though, it's all just a matter of different preference and opinion. The PSP is much easier to hack, which makes it the gamers choice to use a PSP. My 3DS consoles required a GateWay cart and additional files on the SD before I could even begin with CFW.



Just because you've never heard of PSP overclocking over 333Mhz, doesn't mean it's not a thing. You talk as if you know everything, but clearly you just have 333Mhz embedded into your mind because it's what you've been told. The only reason nobody hears so much of overclocking past 333Mhz, is because DarkAlex (if you didn't already know was a PSP hacker) knew the risks of including the option to overclock past 333Mhz in the official CFW's (plus the fact it wasn't entirely needed), but there were unofficial CFW's that had "experimental" features... But I won't go into that, you've never heard of the unofficial experimental CFW's.
I would love to see actual concrete evidence of your claims considering I'd been in the psp scene from the start and the only "overclocks" were either people mistakenly calling 333mhz a overclock or people making fake claims that were proven wrong
 
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