Hacking Discussion Team Xecuter Switch SX

TheCyberQuake · May 15, 2018

Kipz said:
I can afford a $30 dongle but i can also afford the BETTER FREE ALTERNATIVE THIS ISNT HARD TO UNDERSTAND! WHY SPEND 30$ WHEN THE FREE THING IS BETTER?

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A. you dont know that

B. You won't need a phone at all soon.

Any source to bak up claim B? So far I haven't seen any official announcement from devs that we will be seeing an untethered version except for 1.0.0 (which uses jamais vu, not a coldboot bootrom exploit).
Though I might have just not seen it, so if that is true I would love to see the source. I'm not saying you are wrong, just haven't personally seen any actual evidence of this claim.

Kipz · May 15, 2018

DeslotlCL said:
People can be informed and want to buy the dongle anyway, as shown by some well known users of the temp.

You are the one missing the true point here: You are NO ONE to tell people what to buy and what no to buy. Sure, you are doing good by informing and recommending, but the rest is up to the person, not you. Again, you have power on one on their decisions.

I don't claim to be telling them what to do. I'm saying any sane person would stay away from this.

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TheCyberQuake said:
Any source to bak up claim B? So far I haven't seen any official announcement from devs that we will be seeing an untethered version except for 1.0.0 (which uses jamais vu, not a coldboot bootrom exploit).
Though I might have just not seen it, so if that is true I would love to see the source. I'm not saying you are wrong, just haven't personally seen any actual evidence of this claim.

2.0.0 > 4.1.0 have a private exploit, and there may or may not be some other things on the way

geodeath · May 15, 2018

Kipz said:
This is literally just a USB dongle + the already known exploits. People are gonna pay money for this?

You forgot the part where it works on all firmware versions and also that it comes with its own CFW. Don't buy it if you feel it is worthless but even if you buy it for the hardware alone and only plan to use open source tools it is still a good price. Or else, show me to the next available cheaper job + untethered payload dongle. Now. Now in 3 months.

Rizzorules · May 15, 2018

Kipz said:
A. you dont know that

B. You won't need a phone at all soon.

It is more convenient than using a computer/phone. It seems like cold boot with only work with the first firmware the rest will need to use something to inject the payload

DeslotlCL · May 15, 2018

Kipz said:
I don't claim to be telling them what to do. I'm saying any sane person would stay away from this.

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2.0.0 > 4.1.0 have a private exploit, and there may or may not be some other things on the way

Calling someone else insane because of buying a dongle? really?

Kipz · May 15, 2018

geodeath said:
You forgot the part where it works on all firmware versions and also that it comes with its own CFW. Don't buy it if you feel it is worthless but even if you buy it for the hardware alone and only plan to use open source tools it is still a good price. Or else, show me to the next available cheaper job + untethered payload dongle. Now. Now in 3 months.

You can't use this with open source tools, it'll be locked to "TX CFW". You own a smartphone, you can do this same thing NOW - and soon you wont even need that for ATMS.

leerpsp · May 15, 2018

Kipz said:
I can afford a $30 dongle but i can also afford the BETTER FREE ALTERNATIVE THIS ISNT HARD TO UNDERSTAND! WHY SPEND 30$ WHEN THE FREE THING IS BETTER?

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A. you dont know that

B. You won't need a phone at all soon.

jakkal said:
How's the free thing better?? Please enlighten me.
Because I don't see anything with atmosphere so far that looked better than what tx revealed today

can you guys take this to privet message? this is starting to really clutter this thread bad and as you both can see no matter what you say to each other your both going to disagree on it and never see eye to eye and you guys are going to keep going at each other over this.
why flame in this thread when you can flame with each other in PM's.

Kipz · May 15, 2018

DeslotlCL said:
Calling someone else insane because of buying a dongle? really?

insane because they turned down the same exact thing but free and MORE convenient.

DeslotlCL · May 15, 2018

Kipz said:
insane because they turned down the same exact thing but free and MORE convenient.

Again, how does that make someone insane?

igivenup · May 15, 2018

Kipz said:
insane because they turned down the same exact thing but free and MORE convenient.

Having a dongle that automatically does everything for you for cheap is about 100x more convenient

TheCyberQuake · May 15, 2018

Kipz said:
I don't claim to be telling them what to do. I'm saying any sane person would stay away from this.

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2.0.0 > 4.1.0 have a private exploit, and there may or may not be some other things on the way

Firstly, not everyone is one 4.1.0 or lower. So again you telling everyone that they shouldn't buy one and "won't need one" isn't valid because not everyone is on 4.1.0 or lower. You really shouldn't just assume everyone is.

Kipz · May 15, 2018

DeslotlCL said:
Again, how does that make someone insane?

If you could have a car that was 2000, or the same car for 0$, which would you take?

igivenup said:
Having a dongle that automatically does everything for you for cheap is about 100x more convenient lmao

That's just not true.

TheCyberQuake · May 15, 2018

Kipz said:
insane because they turned down the same exact thing but free and MORE convenient.

Carrying a USB C cable and USB OTG cable is much less convenient than just bringing a dongle...
And again I'm not even interested in buying it. I'm just pointing out your faulty arguements

Kipz · May 15, 2018

TheCyberQuake said:
Firstly, not everyone is one 4.1.0 or lower. So again you telling everyone that they shouldn't buy one and "won't need one" isn't valid because not everyone is on 4.1.0 or lower. You really shouldn't just assume everyone is.

Not everything will be 4.1.0 or lower. Some things will work on every FW - as long as you have a rev1 switch.

igivenup · May 15, 2018

Kipz said:
If you could have a car that was 2000, or the same car for 0$, which would you take?

That's just not true.

It blatantly is true, lmao. Needing to hook it up to a PC then run software on it is way less convenient than this plug and play device

DeslotlCL · May 15, 2018

Kipz said:
If you could have a car that was 2000, or the same car for 0$, which would you take?

That's just not true.

Comparing apples to oranges. Right, you cant prove how expending money on something makes people insane.

aos10 · May 15, 2018

They probably used some arduino/raspberry circuit board and trimmed it to be like that size, to enable launching the CFW when connected to the USB port.

Kipz · May 15, 2018

igivenup said:
It blatantly is true, lmao. Needing to hook it up to a PC then run software on it is way less convenient than this plug and play device

You don't need a PC.

DeslotlCL said:
Comparing apples to oranges. Right, you cant prove how expending money on something makes people insane.

WHY SPEND MONEY WHEN YOU CAN DO THE LITERAL EXACT SAME THING FOR F R E E

igivenup · May 15, 2018

Kipz said:
You don't need a PC.

WHY SPEND MONEY WHEN YOU CAN DO THE LITERAL EXACT SAME THING FOR F R E E

Yes, you do. You need a PC or a phone currently. Until the point when you don't this is better. $30 for convenience? Sign me up.

TheCyberQuake · May 15, 2018

Kipz said:
Not everything will be 4.1.0 or lower. Some things will work on every FW - as long as you have a rev1 switch.

Again you are being vague without using any evidence to back up your claims. Where are you getting information that we will have an untethered exploit? Because right now I haven't seen any actual sources that prove that. Only people saying it will happen without evidence.

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