Do you think Donald Trump is mentally ill?

Navonod · Apr 15, 2018

TotalInsanity4 said:
It would be foolish to think otherwise, of course. But the context in which he said it was that the vast majority of Mexican (legal!) immigrants are criminals

No you just took his words out of context.

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TotalInsanity4 said:
It would be foolish to think otherwise, of course. But the context in which he said it was that the vast majority of Mexican (legal!) immigrants are criminals

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It'd be a great narrative if his idea of America being great wasn't rich white people getting richer while everyone else caters to them out of their own wallet

Wtf. Lol You do know there are rich black people and they get richer to right?

TotalInsanity4 · Apr 15, 2018

DrGreed said:
No you just took his words out of context.

The infamous June 16th speech said:
Thank you. It’s true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you. They’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.

But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting. And it only makes common sense. It only makes common sense. They’re sending us not the right people.

It’s coming from more than Mexico. It’s coming from all over South and Latin America, and it’s coming probably— probably— from the Middle East. But we don’t know. Because we have no protection and we have no competence, we don’t know what’s happening. And it’s got to stop and it’s got to stop fast.

Please explain to me what I'm missing here...?

Xzi · Apr 15, 2018

DrGreed said:
Well he isn't lying when some immigrants rape, kill, and steal among other things. Yes there are good people being sent back but they didn't come here legally.

I'll agree that this is okay when we can start deporting MAGA tards for the same things. At least the immigrants actually contribute to society while Trump's crowd just leeches off the system and complains about everybody else being the problem.

TotalInsanity4 · Apr 15, 2018

Xzi said:
I'll agree that this is okay when we can start deporting MAGA tards for the same things. At least the immigrants actually contribute to society while Trump's crowd just leeches off the system and complains about everybody else being the problem.

Let's stick to facts, @Xzi. Don't generalize about a demographic unless you can back up your statement with more than feelings and you'll have a better time

Navonod · Apr 15, 2018

TotalInsanity4 said:
Please explain to me what I'm missing here...?

He didn't vast majority. You're putting words in his mouth. You should watch those Drug inc documentaries.

Xzi · Apr 15, 2018

TotalInsanity4 said:
Let's stick to facts, @Xzi. Don't generalize about a demographic unless you can back up your statement with more than feelings and you'll have a better time

I mean, I can pull up the statistics by state if you'd like. Trump states are definitely the biggest leeches on the economy, and blue states have to subsidize them. Before they complain about immigrants or anything else, these states need to fix their own damn situation and not dig deeper holes with Republican governors who bankrupt them.

Navonod · Apr 15, 2018

Xzi said:
I'll agree that this is okay when we can start deporting MAGA tards for the same things. At least the immigrants actually contribute to society while Trump's crowd just leeches off the system and complains about everybody else being the problem.

The difference is that when Americans do it then it's our problem which is why we put them in jail. Illegal immigrants doing it shouldn't have been here anyway. Also a correction liberals are the ones wanting to leech off of the system. Also liberals commit crimes to. So your logic is flawed.

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Xzi said:
I mean, I can pull up the statistics by state if you'd like. Trump states are definitely the biggest leeches on the economy, and blue states have to subsidize them. Before they complain about immigrants or anything else, these states need to fix their own damn situation and not dig deeper holes with Republican governors who bankrupt them.

Yeah pull up the statistics that liberals pulled out of their ass. I'll wait. Lol

HamBone41801 · Apr 15, 2018

DrGreed said:
He didn't vast majority. You're putting words in his mouth. You should watch those Drug inc documentaries.

"They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
^ seems pretty clear to me that he thinks this last bit is a minority.

TotalInsanity4 · Apr 15, 2018

HamBone41801 said:
"They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
^ seems pretty clear to me that he thinks this last bit is a minority.

Exactly

Navonod · Apr 15, 2018

HamBone41801 said:
"They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
^ seems pretty clear to me that he thinks this last bit is a minority.

Some could mean half.

emigre · Apr 15, 2018

Personally I think he's just a fucking twat.

HamBone41801 · Apr 15, 2018

DrGreed said:
Some could mean half.

now you're the one grasping at straws. you know as well as I do what that phrase implies when everyone else says it.

Navonod · Apr 15, 2018

emigre said:
Personally I think he's just a fucking twat.

lol. I legitimately though this was funny.

Xzi · Apr 15, 2018

DrGreed said:
The difference is that when Americans do it then it's our problem which is why we put them in jail.

That's a nice thought, but it also makes them a leech on the system for even longer.

DrGreed said:
Illegal immigrants doing it shouldn't have been here anyway.

Which is true except for DREAMERS, who were given assurances of protection from the government that Trump stripped away. Also I'm fine with deporting illegals, but it has to be done in a level-headed, non-hypocritical manner. Unlike Trump who has a mail order bride with special privileges and who chain migrated her relatives. By Trump's standards we should be arresting him.

The bigger issue is that nothing gets done in the US while Trump uses immigration and racism as a distraction from our real problems. Even if we deported every non-citizen tomorrow, things would not change. It's not a solution to anything.

Navonod · Apr 15, 2018

HamBone41801 said:
now you're the one grasping at straws. you know as well as I do what that phrase implies when everyone else says it.

I'm not grasping at anything. Some is an undefined amount.

HamBone41801 · Apr 15, 2018

DrGreed said:
I'm not grasping at anything. Some is an undefined amount.

It is. but this is English. The meaning of words change depending on the phrase they are used in, as well as the tone they are spoken with.

Navonod · Apr 15, 2018

Xzi said:
That's a nice thought, but it also makes them a leech on the system for even longer.

Which is true except for DREAMERS, who were given assurances of protection from the government that Trump stripped away. Also I'm fine with deporting illegals, but it has to be done in a level-headed, non-hypocritical manner. Unlike Trump who has a mail order bride with special privileges and who chain migrated her relatives. By Trump's standards we should be arresting him.

The bigger issue is that nothing gets done in the US while Trump uses immigration and racism as a distraction from our real problems. Even if we deported every non-citizen tomorrow, things would not change. It's not a solution to anything.

I agree which is why we should take about half or more of prison funding and use it for orphanages. That's just me though. I honestly believe once we weed out the criminals, we can bring back the dreamers. At least that's what we all hope for.

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HamBone41801 said:
It is. but this is English. The meaning of words change depending on the phrase they are used in, as well as the tone they are spoken with.

True but I don't believe he meant it in the way you think.

Xzi · Apr 15, 2018

DrGreed said:
I agree which is why we should take about half or more of prison funding and use it for orphanages. That's just me though. I honestly believe once we weed out the criminals, we can bring back the dreamers. At least that's what we all hope for.

The dreamers were required to keep their criminal record clean, so again it's no excuse. We know repeal of their status was motivated by racism, which is the same reason why Trump's Muslim ban failed twice.

Navonod · Apr 15, 2018

Xzi said:
The dreamers were required to keep their criminal record clean, so again it's no excuse. We know repeal of their status was motivated by racism, which is the same reason why Trump's Muslim ban failed twice.

No I disagree. Trump isn't racist. You only claim he is racist because the deportation effects Mexicans among the other races that came here illegally. If it was white people being deported you wouldn't say anything. That's just the attitude you give off. Like yeah I'm sorry it sucks but the people who went through the process legally are pissed off about the illegals to.

Xzi · Apr 15, 2018

DrGreed said:
No I disagree. Trump isn't racist. You only claim he is racist because the deportation effects Mexicans among the other races that came here illegally.

Wrong, I claim he's racist because he opened his campaign on racist remarks. Before that he insisted Obama couldn't have been born in this country because he's black. Before that, Trump's first appearance in the newspaper was a story about him being sued for racial discrimination in the 60s. Anybody who thinks Trump isn't racist is intentionally keeping the blinders on.

Shit, I haven't even mentioned the Trump administration's response to Puerto Rico.

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