If you didn't ready Selbys message. It wasn't me who started that with such comments and private messages. Did I mention that I get messages from those unofficial builders asking for my unfinished code so they can throw it in their builds, so they can claim their builds are the best... Thats just disrespectful. And thats why I'm so angry about. I have no problem if they reales a build, stating clearly that this build includes hacks, what those hacks are/how they influence different games. But "stealing" code from other devs claiming it is their work, and that is now the best build: That's disrespectful to the devs and thats what drives me crazy. So sorry for being so harsh. But like I said: It wasn't me who started the insults
If you didn't ready Selbys message. It wasn't me who started that with such comments and private messages. Did I mention that I get messages from those unofficial builders asking for my unfinished code so they can throw it in their builds, so they can claim their builds are the best... Thats just disrespectful. And thats why I'm so angry about. I have no problem if they reales a build, stating clearly that this build includes hacks, what those hacks are/how they influence different games. But "stealing" code from other devs claiming it is their work, and that is now the best build: That's disrespectful to the devs and thats what drives me crazy. So sorry for being so harsh. But like I said: It wasn't me who started the insults
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, Valentine's stuff is fucking phenomenal I got my FX 8350 to run pretty much every game on his builds with my GTX 1060 at a full 60 frames per second
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See thats the stupidity. Thats not Valentine's stuff. Thats work from Phantom and jroweboy and is in the official canary build. Valentine just took it and now claims it as his work
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, but I should also mention that I myself have made Citra with visual studio and C make I'm currently learning how to rebase P R's but the fact of the matter is you guys claim that the devs are disrespecting yet I completely agree with Selby. The official builds and the canary builds run just fine now that the GPU implementation has been merged. And also I think it's just common sense that AMD cards our shit when it comes to graphics cards. I know because before I got my GTX 1060 strix that just came out when I bought it and wasn't $600 or whatever the ridiculous price of the cards rose up to in the past year I was running on an R9 270 and I couldn't even play The Witcher 3 on medium without it having severe frame drops on my FX 8350.
As for you? Fucking forget even some of those booting with that card but as soon as I upgraded to Nvidia I think the one game that has problems for Citra is Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon and Fire Emblem Warriors. And most emulators nowadays are cpu-based to which I really hope some of the other emulator Developers try to implement what Citra did taking advantage of the graphics card rather than running off of the CPU.
But if you really want to complain about something that we as developers do not charge for we put our own time and our own effort into giving you guys something that is completely free and you still want a bitch about it well you all can suck a fart out of my ass because we don't have to do this we personally like making sure the community has something to look forward to and what not but if you're going to be one of those idiotic bitches that complains about something that you are not working on yourself and you have no idea how hard the shit we do actually is until you actually try it then quit your bitchin and stop disrespecting The devs who put their own time and possibly money into something they are giving you for free if you want change so badly then go fuck one of the Obamas oh I'm sorry you don't like my language you don't like how I'm talking to you well I'm going to quote Family Guy take it up with my ass because it's the only one that gives a shit and to the official devs you guys rock thank you so much for busting your asses and giving us something to play 3 DS games on the computer with and to the Pirates go fuck yourself
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As for you? Fucking forget even some of those booting with that card but as soon as I upgraded to Nvidia I think the one game that has problems for Citra is Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon and Fire Emblem Warriors. And most emulators nowadays are cpu-based to which I really hope some of the other emulator Developers try to implement what Citra did taking advantage of the graphics card rather than running off of the CPU.
But if you really want to complain about something that we as developers do not charge for we put our own time and our own effort into giving you guys something that is completely free and you still want a bitch about it well you all can suck a fart out of my ass because we don't have to do this we personally like making sure the community has something to look forward to and what not but if you're going to be one of those idiotic bitches that complains about something that you are not working on yourself and you have no idea how hard the shit we do actually is until you actually try it then quit your bitchin and stop disrespecting The devs who put their own time and possibly money into something they are giving you for free if you want change so badly then go fuck one of the Obamas oh I'm sorry you don't like my language you don't like how I'm talking to you well I'm going to quote Family Guy take it up with my ass because it's the only one that gives a shit and to the official devs you guys rock thank you so much for busting your asses and giving us something to play 3 DS games on the computer with and to the Pirates go fuck yourself
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Just to give you a hint: grey are all unofficial builds. I can't separate them, since they don't use a proper build name. But as you can see all the hacky stuff they added reduces speed.
So if you really want the fastest Citra that is available now: Use Canary. And it's also visible that all unofficial builds just used the speedups the devs introduced in canary to get the same speed up.
Obviously Nightly isn't faster yet, since the speedup PR is currently under review and will get merged later
So if you really want the fastest Citra that is available now: Use Canary. And it's also visible that all unofficial builds just used the speedups the devs introduced in canary to get the same speed up.
Obviously Nightly isn't faster yet, since the speedup PR is currently under review and will get merged later
Now that we are all cool(unless someone would like to add more salt in this thread and probably almost everyone who joins the mad conversation will/might get banned on this site), I think it's time to move on and enjoy both Official Build and Unofficial build.
Ik that claiming a specific unofficial build as "better than the Canary" is pretty much egotistic to say on an Official Forum or on GitHub, but at least listen to the Devs and try to show respect and never mentioned any unofficial builds in front of a Dev next time.
Now that it's all over, a friend of mine cannot connect to Multiplayer. Ik that this is a similar or the same question as others, but regenerating console ID won't work. Sendnudes help.
Ik that claiming a specific unofficial build as "better than the Canary" is pretty much egotistic to say on an Official Forum or on GitHub, but at least listen to the Devs and try to show respect and never mentioned any unofficial builds in front of a Dev next time.
Now that it's all over, a friend of mine cannot connect to Multiplayer. Ik that this is a similar or the same question as others, but regenerating console ID won't work. Send
It's upto the individual if you don't like it don't use it, and if you like it use it, thats it end off.
okay, so i am a bit confused here to why developing citra official branch is taking more time due to unofficial builds.
If the reason is because test results get messed up, then there is a pretty simple fix no? Just have a handful of testers who only use citra official code to test games/speed and what have you. This way, the devs get a consistent wave of feedback to THEIR code (and not someone else's) and can work from there.
Unless the citra devs use code from unofficial builds to make the official build faster/fix games then i do not see a reason why it would slow down development of official builds. And even better, if the DO use the codes from unofficial builds, then they should not be so hateful towards the unofficial builders / compilers, since it progresses their work as well.
I do agree unofficial builds need a separate name from the main builds, this is long overdue.
This way people know what build they are getting (name of the compiler/builder at the top of the emulator when you start it and a ref number is a great way to start) and it would be easier for people to snipe down said build if they want to use that specific build.
If any dev/insider could fill me in, i would gladly read it, i am genuinely curious.
If the reason is because test results get messed up, then there is a pretty simple fix no? Just have a handful of testers who only use citra official code to test games/speed and what have you. This way, the devs get a consistent wave of feedback to THEIR code (and not someone else's) and can work from there.
Unless the citra devs use code from unofficial builds to make the official build faster/fix games then i do not see a reason why it would slow down development of official builds. And even better, if the DO use the codes from unofficial builds, then they should not be so hateful towards the unofficial builders / compilers, since it progresses their work as well.
I do agree unofficial builds need a separate name from the main builds, this is long overdue.
This way people know what build they are getting (name of the compiler/builder at the top of the emulator when you start it and a ref number is a great way to start) and it would be easier for people to snipe down said build if they want to use that specific build.
If any dev/insider could fill me in, i would gladly read it, i am genuinely curious.
So the whole thing boils down to devs wanting feedback from their official code? Then there are two options, stick to the official thread and ignore all comment related to unofficial builds (seeing as you have telemetry to tell the difference), or go private with it with core testers being the only way code gets used. It may actually speed up the process. You just have to learn to block out the noise. It's like the automotive industry. Ford didn't stop build new cars because Chevrolet came along and did. And in drag racing there are hacks all over the place there, but no one complains about it. They just go back to work and try new stuff to beat the others. It called friendly competition. Which you don't really have since Citra is the ONLY emulator being developed. You have the only one. The hacked versions are still yours. That's why you all deserve mad props for your original work. You just need to work on your people skills a little.
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That was an absolutely wrong UI design, and you still think it's only about liking it or not. What's next, bugs are actually features?
Damn, even in PC Overclock, we know some params aren't to be fiddled with easily.
Well, I can't deny many people loves to touch shit they don't understand, e.g. messing up their windows and BIOS after reading too much online *guides*.
But if you consider yourself a Dev, stop this.
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To be totally honest, I would like to know as well. Last time I checked, people who know how to compile Citra just want to figure out how to get Citra to run on low-end PCs. Isn't this what all of this is about in the first place? This is not the time or especially the place to say "AMD Sux NShiddia is better" or even "I'm so discouraged from working on x emulator because of all the unofficial builds" which I am not believing a single bit. Once your code is out there, it will continue to be available for ALL people, even those who have no clue what they're doing, to mess with.
So I think both parties (as in the official Citra devs and the people here creating unofficial builds) need to stop getting butthurt over builds lying around on the Internet and continue developing the emulator, because as it now stands, even with the GPU update, it still leaves a lot more to be desired.
I am in no way a dev, just merge pull request to my build PR's that did not get added to citra are privet use that was not put up for PR.
Like cheats/vetex that other devs have made.
I don't think it's gonna hurt anyones PC are other in the slighest.
Only thing i cameup with from a very old build, was to use the new3ds menory then the old, this alow to play n3ds games and old, like zelda hyrule / fire emblem warriors work without hacks, it only brakes the old home menu as a old 3ds is old and new 3ds is new memory on a real 3ds system, they is no switch between the two.
As a metter of fact the N3ds Games worked Without the Home Menu Fix was added back when over a year ago, Brakeing their own build.
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Why remove the tick settings? Those helped me play Kid Icarus at fullspeed.
Looks like he got pushed into it, To him just don't and do your build the way you like it to be my advice.
Don't take any s*it .
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To be honsit, I started the idea just to fix Pokeon US/UM photo shop and other games, it was an axedent when it was mention to be fix by.. on a test it was too.
Yes it also changed other games behaveing with speeds of FMV est.
So he just cadged on to the idea that's it, Hes not really to blame, I was a d*ck for starting it / I admit it.
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I am pretty sure he mean that as a joke.
And yes currently there is no reason to use unofficial build because Canary is the fastest.
I bought used GTX980 today (i should get it around tuesday by mail) so i should test more Citra by then as i will have both AMD and NVIDIA gpu.
Also if you choice of language had to do with private messages you got then i don't have anything to say anymore. Slinging shit at core Citra dev is fucking idiotic (assuming it is true)
@perkel so you say canary already faster that tickd build (despite there is like wheek after gpu release) and for example my friend with i3 3xxx (dont know exacly but its 3rd gen) that havin 100% in monhun XX on astalos with ticks with no slowdowns will have same speed on new canary with geometry shaders on CPU/vertex on 1050ti gpu?
If yes - we will gladly use official branch to play. If yet its slower than hacked build - we will use hacked for this particular build up until canary will outdone it.
Also tickd builds on day of release gpu builds hadn't visible proportional slowdowns like canary when fps got lover that 30. I'll say it again - on day of release. Not today.
That's just an example of users logic. Yes devs in some way right that hacks isn't a fix but just timely used workaround. But come one - not everyone here DEVELOPING - many just use. And do feedbacks if its possible. As long as i used different emulators - there's always was this workarounds when for particular games some old branched build was still better cause devs wanted overall performance. (psc2/epsxe/dolphin/citra etc etc). But user in this part of time wants just play this particular game and if its slow for him - ppl will wait OR search fix/alternative. Thats simple humans logic isnt it?
Users of just any product most of time is egoistic. They want cheaper - faster - better - easyer. That is too known thing. Then why you blame those ppl who just tryed smthing on opensource thing and it worked? I really don't understand. More proper thing is to blame dumb poor users like me or my friend that cant afford new pc or new release version of 3ds each year cause prices ofcourse don't give a thing about regional salarys and etc but still wants to play. We are egoistic and we just hungry and we would not understand talks about development art. BLAME US. pls. Just don't stop ppl with others ideas doing their thing here. Users like me gratefull both for your work and for tweaks/hacks/etc cause we want to play game like we want to. With upscales - on other gamepad and all sort of deviations lol. For me for 10+ years that was emulators all about. Dunno.
And again sorry if it looks like an new porthion of oil put on dead fire - but pls dont do any more holywars here. I am to bad at English as u can see, as can human that learned language in mmos and console games be. If i did some mistakes at meaning of words and phrases - sorry. I am nobody here to ask it but hey - that holywas just lookd awfull. come on.
Thats my view of situation as just an user of this emulator.
If yes - we will gladly use official branch to play. If yet its slower than hacked build - we will use hacked for this particular build up until canary will outdone it.
Also tickd builds on day of release gpu builds hadn't visible proportional slowdowns like canary when fps got lover that 30. I'll say it again - on day of release. Not today.
That's just an example of users logic. Yes devs in some way right that hacks isn't a fix but just timely used workaround. But come one - not everyone here DEVELOPING - many just use. And do feedbacks if its possible. As long as i used different emulators - there's always was this workarounds when for particular games some old branched build was still better cause devs wanted overall performance. (psc2/epsxe/dolphin/citra etc etc). But user in this part of time wants just play this particular game and if its slow for him - ppl will wait OR search fix/alternative. Thats simple humans logic isnt it?
Users of just any product most of time is egoistic. They want cheaper - faster - better - easyer. That is too known thing. Then why you blame those ppl who just tryed smthing on opensource thing and it worked? I really don't understand. More proper thing is to blame dumb poor users like me or my friend that cant afford new pc or new release version of 3ds each year cause prices ofcourse don't give a thing about regional salarys and etc but still wants to play. We are egoistic and we just hungry and we would not understand talks about development art. BLAME US. pls. Just don't stop ppl with others ideas doing their thing here. Users like me gratefull both for your work and for tweaks/hacks/etc cause we want to play game like we want to. With upscales - on other gamepad and all sort of deviations lol. For me for 10+ years that was emulators all about. Dunno.
And again sorry if it looks like an new porthion of oil put on dead fire - but pls dont do any more holywars here. I am to bad at English as u can see, as can human that learned language in mmos and console games be. If i did some mistakes at meaning of words and phrases - sorry. I am nobody here to ask it but hey - that holywas just lookd awfull. come on.
Thats my view of situation as just an user of this emulator.
@valentinvanelslande hi man you think you can make a native resolution of 500x340 in the citra, is that I need you I would be very grateful 
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