Poll: Apple throttling older phones - your opinion?

Deleted User · Dec 28, 2017

comput3rus3r said:
ROFL!

Wow you really showed me

comput3rus3r · Dec 28, 2017

VinLark said:
Wow you really showed me

That wasn't meant to be a reply to you but saltiness tells me you own an Iphone.

Deleted User · Dec 28, 2017

comput3rus3r said:
That wasn't meant to be a reply to you but saltiness tells me you own an Iphone.

I do own an iPhone, as I've stated in this thread multiple times.

AbyssalMonkey · Dec 28, 2017

comput3rus3r said:
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I don't care what you believe. Have a good day sir. I SAID GOOD DAY SIR.

I'm curious why you don't update to CM/LOS for android 7. My mako is running 5 years later, and I get to laugh at people who upgrade their phones every year because they break them.

Back on topic, I don't think it's a problem of Apple throttling it, it should definitely be an option to toggle, but Apple is a gated community, and they want to keep their appearance. If android had a similar toggle (it might, haven't dug too deep), I might toggle it, who knows, it might solve my issue of battery being misread and shutting off when it claims it's 34% charged.

I think the larger issue is that they are just now saying that they are doing it, when they could have been silently doing it for who knows how long. This also raises the issue about why they need to do it. It implies that Apple is pushing their products so hard that they are literally causing them to destroy themselves. So much for their "top tier" quality, when the phones don't display their advertised performance after a single year.

themyst · Dec 28, 2017

Apple needed to be more transparent as to how they resolved the sudden shutdowns (I used to have an iPhone 6 Plus).

But on the flip side, battery replacement on an iPhone isn't rocket science and inexpensive (two pentalobe screws, suction cup, pull tabs). I did one for a friend's old iPhone 5S and it was quite simple.

Dr.Hacknik · Dec 28, 2017

Android does similar things, but at least they give you the option to disable those features; and not hide them behind your back.

Most people have known that Apple has done this, for years. But them admitting to it has just caused more back lash.

Ulieq · Dec 28, 2017

They should be sued. If they want to add a manual THROTTLE BUTTON let them, but to do it without someone's permission is disturbing.

aykay55 · Dec 28, 2017

I have a differing opinion here. I think it is okay to throttle the performance of older devices as long as you’re open about the practice, which Apple was not. Also, being a person who has a first-batch iPhone 6s Plus on the latest iOS, the battery sucks, SUCKS! My phone still performs pretty well, I don’t see the performance throttle on my iPhone but I do see the battery life problem, and it is really bad. Now to be fair, I had jailbroken my device back when the Pangu semi-tethered 9.3.2 Jailbreak was released, using the app where you’d press the button, turn off the phone and wait for the notification. I updated my phone but my phone still has a ‘scar’ and I can’t open apps like Super MARIO Run or Miitomo since they have some way of figuring out my phone was tampered with. Strangely, I can open other Nintendo apps like AC: Pocket Camp and Nintendo Switch Online easily. Anyway, there is nothing wrong with throttling older phones as long as you don’t attempt to hide it.

Foxi4 · Dec 28, 2017

VinLark said:
Android has been doing it for years. Software home buttons (iPhone X has an option to enable it)

Android hasn't been doing anything because Android is an operating system. Google gives a lot of freedom to hardware manufacturers, which is why some handsets implement capacitive panels, other implement onscreen buttons and then some implement hardware buttons. The difference is that you have a choice based on preference. Moreover, the death of buttons is specifically Apple's fault - it solidified a stupid standard and others followed suit. I blame the industry collectively and Apple individually for destroying productivity on the phone.

TotalInsanity4 · Dec 28, 2017

comput3rus3r said:
ROFL!

You're SHITTING me

comput3rus3r · Dec 28, 2017

TotalInsanity4 said:
You're SHITTING me

I think it's a joke but it's not far from the truth since i know somebody that has the adapter to be able to use headphones. so still ROFL

Foxi4 · Dec 28, 2017

comput3rus3r said:
I think it's a joke but it's not far from the truth since i know somebody that has the adapter to be able to use headphones. so still ROFL

The phone comes with an adapter. As for the picture, it's obviously a joke.

RedBlueGreen · Dec 28, 2017

Foxi4 said:
Android hasn't been doing anything because Android is an operating system. Google gives a lot of freedom to hardware manufacturers, which is why some handsets implement capacitive panels, other implement onscreen buttons and then some implement hardware buttons. The difference is that you have a choice based on preference. Moreover, the death of buttons is specifically Apple's fault - it solidified a stupid standard and others followed suit. I blame the industry collectively and Apple individually for destroying productivity on the phone.

Software buttons are ass either way. Makes closing out of some ads near impossible.

comput3rus3r · Dec 28, 2017

RedBlueGreen said:
Software buttons are ass either way. Makes closing out of some ads near impossible.

I think that was their intention. Everything they change they do it in favor of profits not in favor of consumers.

Deleted User · Dec 28, 2017

comput3rus3r said:
I think that was their intention. Everything they change they do it in favor of profits not in favor of consumers.

How do software buttons drive up profit?

Deleted User · Dec 29, 2017

RedBlueGreen · Dec 29, 2017

VinLark said:
How do software buttons drive up profit?

Well if you use ad supported apps that have those full screen timed video ads that try to go to the Google Play page or a website if anywhere on the screen is touched you can't really get out of those. You have to wait for the little x to appear, which is still questionable itself because pop ups and malware ads have had fake x buttons for years.

Deleted User · Dec 29, 2017

RedBlueGreen said:
Well if you use ad supported apps that have those full screen timed video ads that try to go to the Google Play page or a website if anywhere on the screen is touched you can't really get out of those. You have to wait for the little x to appear, which is still questionable itself because pop ups and malware ads have had fake x buttons for years.

Yeah, but I think @comput3rus3r was talking about iPhones.

Jokey_Carrot · Dec 30, 2017

Costello said:
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Unless you have been living under a rock during the past few weeks, you probably know by now that Apple have admitted throttling overall performance for phones that have an "old" battery.

The reason invoked by Apple is to prevent phones from shutting down completely when batteries don't have enough power.

Where do you stand on the matter? Do you believe this makes sense from a technical standpoint? Or do you think it is an elaborate scheme to get people to buy new phones every couple of years? Vote and tell us what you think.

i think it's ok if they are slowing it down if the battery is dying becuase if they didn't it could get unstable but the thing i don't like is you can replaces the battery yourself even theough they could put a door on it like the gba sp and im a bit of a fandroid

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Costello said:
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Unless you have been living under a rock during the past few weeks, you probably know by now that Apple have admitted throttling overall performance for phones that have an "old" battery.

The reason invoked by Apple is to prevent phones from shutting down completely when batteries don't have enough power.

Where do you stand on the matter? Do you believe this makes sense from a technical standpoint? Or do you think it is an elaborate scheme to get people to buy new phones every couple of years? Vote and tell us what you think.

most iphones are hand me downs or need replacing any way becuase they break

TankedThomas · Dec 30, 2017

It's a double-edged sword but I don't think it's inherently "bad". Apple has the choice of the default being less battery life with the same performance vs. approximately the same battery life with less performance.
They've decided to optimise their devices for better battery life. You can always get your battery replaced, if it's that big of an issue.
Even Android devices become rather outdated in just a few years. Most technology does these days.
I can see why people would think of it as planned obsolescence but I think it's stupid to jump to the conclusion that it is only malicious on their part.

As for the whole Apple vs. whatever debates, I don't care. Use what you want and what suits you. Don't buy something just because of a brand name but don't be afraid to buy something because of that brand name being popular, either.
And for all the people in this thread who really seem to care about defending their platform of choice: shut up; nobody cares about your stupid opinion.

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