Hacking [B]Will You safe from ban of you on an outdated firmware below 11.6?[/B]

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I have 11.5 with luma,b9s .I know that updating to 11.6 will not effect to any .cias but what i'm afraid is if I update to 11.6, I will get ban (I'm not cheating tho and I just used fre-eshop to download only Kirby triple delux. still not plan to download any online game like mariokart or Super smash 3ds and I only used homebrew once for checking what it is)
 

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I have 11.5 with luma,b9s .I know that updating to 11.6 will not effect to any .cias but what i'm afraid is if I update to 11.6, I will get ban (I'm not cheating tho and I just used fre-eshop to download only Kirby triple delux. still not plan to download any online game like mariokart or Super smash 3ds and I only used homebrew once for checking what it is)
If you disable send info to Nintendo on system setting, all safe I believe.
 

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If your using the CIA version of FreeShop then you are advertising to Nintendo exactly what you are doing when online.

Generally don't use any homebrew when connected to the internet, before connecting to the internet ensure you have played something legit so that shows up as your last played title.

I don't think their is any 100% way to avoid a ban, a lot of it is common sense and just been careful.
 
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I would like to note that there were reports of people on older OFW banned in the first recorded ban wave.
We may not know what caused the first ban wave, but we do know it wasn't prevented through outdated OFWs.
 

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If your using the CIA version of FreeShop then you are advertising to Nintendo exactly what you are doing when online.

Generally don't use any homebrew when connected to the internet, before connecting to the internet ensure you have played something legit so that shows up as your last played title.

I don't think their is any 100% way to avoid a ban, a lot of it is common sense and just been careful.
I never heard about freeshop that's not CIA vesion before.Is there a version that can inject into H&S ?
 

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Exactly having an outdated firmware will not have any impact on it. Do you play online much? If so chances are high they already flagged you and you will be banned soon enough no matter what you do.

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No this is not the case. There are no other versions. Though I suppose you could inject it into health and safety if you reply want to help "stealth" it but I doubt it'll do much good as at this point were not even sure what exactly Nintendo is checking to determine if it's a legit or hacked device. I have strong hunch that it may have nothing to do with installed content.
 

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Exactly having an outdated firmware will not have any impact on it. Do you play online much? If so chances are high they already flagged you and you will be banned soon enough no matter what you do.
what kind of "online" are you talking about. Using Wifi to access eshop/theme shop or play online games.cia. because if it online games then nope i never play it at once .
 

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I never heard about freeshop that's not CIA vesion before.Is there a version that can inject into H&S ?

You could try the 3dsx version here: https://notabug.org/Paul_GameDev/freeShop/releases

The CIA version might also work when injected in to the Health and Safety app. I've never used either, however it should offer you a bit more protection than out right running the app as a CIA. We don't truly know what Nintendo is looking for though.
 

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Use .3dsx version and launch it inside Rosalina. That's the safest way (probably but there's no 100% guaraantee) to hide it from Nintendo.
Link?

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You could try the 3dsx version here: https://notabug.org/Paul_GameDev/freeShop/releases

The CIA version might also work when injected in to the Health and Safety app. I've never used either, however it should offer you a bit more protection than out right running the app as a CIA. We don't truly know what Nintendo is looking for though.
Thanks. :)
 

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Guys I can understand being cautious, but without having any legit proof for what caused the bans, how can you say that nintendo know what you do or not do with your console? I know they might have some kind of way of detecting shaddy activity on a console which means if you were online previously and did things that could flag your console you're pretty much screwed anyways untill the next ban wave comes around, so why be so cautious now? They haven't had a ban wave since may of this year, I am sure the next big ban wave is gonna be right before USUM's launch and if your console is already flagged then you're gonna get banned regardless of what you do, best thing to do is stock up on private LFCS_B.
 
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If your using the CIA version of FreeShop then you are advertising to Nintendo exactly what you are doing when online.

Generally don't use any homebrew when connected to the internet, before connecting to the internet ensure you have played something legit so that shows up as your last played title.

I don't think their is any 100% way to avoid a ban, a lot of it is common sense and just been careful.
Except no, you're not. It's not any different than using it via hbl. Didn't This get covered in a different thread? The answer to that question is yes. Please stop saying things like this. It just misleads and confuses people new to the scene.
 

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Except no, you're not. It's not any different than using it via hbl. Didn't This get covered in a different thread? The answer to that question is yes. Please stop saying things like this. It just misleads and confuses people new to the scene.

No idea what thread? Link?

I was under the impression CIA homebrew showed as what you were currently playing when online. If im wrong then my bad, it's hardly intentional. However at least be helpful and provide some links if your going to post an arsey response.
 

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Except no, you're not. It's not any different than using it via hbl. Didn't This get covered in a different thread? The answer to that question is yes. Please stop saying things like this. It just misleads and confuses people new to the scene.
i'm confuse now. So use or not use HBL online gonna make I get ban anyway. and even if i inject fre-eshop to H&S it's still also not do anything to avoid ban? Please.what is your recommendation.
 

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Except no, you're not. It's not any different than using it via hbl. Didn't This get covered in a different thread? The answer to that question is yes. Please stop saying things like this. It just misleads and confuses people new to the scene.
Actually, there's a difference. With the recommended Rosalina setup (Download Play as HB title), Nintendo only sees you as using Download Play when you run .3dsx homebrew while online. With CIAs they can see exactly what you're doing.
H&S injected homebrew is also safer than CIA homebrew, since they only see you as using H&S (although using H&S for large amounts of time can be reason for suspicion as well)
i'm confuse now. So use or not use HBL online gonna make I get ban anyway. and even if i inject fre-eshop to H&S it's still also not do anything to avoid ban? Please.what is your recommendation.
You'll be safer if you only use CIA homebrew and VC injects while offline. FBI and FreeShop have .3dsx versions, so use those ran through Rosalina (with Download Play set as the HB title) to be safer. Some homebrew that requires wifi doesn't have a .3dsx version, I don't really have a good suggestion for those besides not using them.
No one knows exactly what criteria Nintendo uses to ban though so you might still be banned, or you may already be flagged.
Guys I can understand being cautious, but without having any legit proof for what caused the bans, how can you say that nintendo know what you do or not do with your console? I know they might have some kind of way of detecting shaddy activity on a console which means if you were online previously and did things that could flag your console you're pretty much screwed anyways untill the next ban wave comes around, so why be so cautious now? They haven't had a ban wave since may of this year, I am sure the next big ban wave is gonna be right before USUM's launch and if your console is already flagged then you're gonna get banned regardless of what you do, best thing to do is stock up on private LFCS_B.
People have sniffed the traffic being sent to the servers and confirmed that your currently playing title is sent to Nintendo whenever you are online regardless of what your settings are, and your local activity log is never sent to Nintendo, meaning that it's safer to only use .3dsx homebrew through Rosalina, and never run .cia homebrew or VC injects while online.
We don't know exactly what criteria Nintendo uses to ban, but that's a likely suspect.
 
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No idea what thread? Link?

I was under the impression CIA homebrew showed as what you were currently playing when online. If im wrong then my bad, it's hardly intentional. However at least be helpful and provide some links if your going to post an arsey response.
sorry about that. I was In a bad mood. as for the thread, there were around twenty over this during the banwave. googling "gbatemp cia banwave" should give you results. anyway, I really should have been a bit nicer. I will admit that I was unaware of the changes to rosalina, so I do recommend using apps that support rosalina that way, but there are quite a few old apps that no longer work since rosalina hijacked the hbl. this makes cias the only option for some folks, and the thing is that there is no more proof that cias caused the ban more than anything else, but when people act like there is, it scares other users into missing out. Again, I would like to apologize for the way I acted earlier.

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i'm confuse now. So use or not use HBL online gonna make I get ban anyway. and even if i inject fre-eshop to H&S it's still also not do anything to avoid ban? Please.what is your recommendation.
refer to my above post. if you can use rosalina, do, but dont be scared away from cia's completely.
 

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sorry about that. I was In a bad mood. as for the thread, there were around twenty over this during the banwave. googling "gbatemp cia banwave" should give you results. anyway, I really should have been a bit nicer. I will admit that I was unaware of the changes to rosalina, so I do recommend using apps that support rosalina that way, but there are quite a few old apps that no longer work since rosalina hijacked the hbl. this makes cias the only option for some folks, and the thing is that there is no more proof that cias caused the ban more than anything else, but when people act like there is, it scares other users into missing out. Again, I would like to apologize for the way I acted earlier.

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refer to my above post. if you can use rosalina, do, but dont be scared away from cia's completely.

No problem we all have bad days, I'd never intentionally spread misinformation so would sooner be told if I was incorrect on a matter. I'm not looking to fall out with anyone on here so were good :)

I agree we can't be 100% what gets someone banned. I was lucky enough to have avoided it so was just sharing what i'd been doing.
 

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Nintendo could stop all the FreeShop BS anyway if they just freaking locked their CDN servers to outside traffic; keys or no keys. But they don't for whatever reason. There are TONS of things Nintendo can do to stop CFW or punish those that have it; but they don't.

I'm convinced Nintendo half wants the CFW community to thrive, just so the cat and mouse game continues. They're having fun.
 

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