So counterfeit NES Classics are out now

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When you get it please take pics inside and out. If there's visible differences people should know so they don't get scammed.
Also tell us about the packaging, manual, poster, etc. Most of the times fakes use bad scans of the box to make the copy, sometimes they edit it for no reason with some random engrish.

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The splash screen may be from the tv/monitor. We can only wait and see.

The video description says "Kachi - kachi emulator" so maybe it's not the original software?
Could it be based on the hakchi emulator? If so, it shouldn't be too difficult to overwrite the ROM with the proper hakchi2 tool to get the latest and greatest work.
 
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kachi and hakchi sound pretty similar, maybe you can swap between the two?


...does hakchi2 have all the video modes and save points of the original NES Classic?
Hakchi is just the program used to communicate and mod the NES Classic in order to add additional ROMs and software. The additional emulators are thanks to RetroArch.

RetroArch has additional video modes, including color palette management, filtering, overscan cropping and aspect ratio. Save points work for NES, Game Boy, SNES, Genesis, and others, however look in the recent pages of the Hakchi thread. The NES Classic is prone to crash from exiting games and creating save states for other consoles.
 
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Hakchi is just the program used to communicate and mod the NES Classic in order to add additional ROMs and software. The additional emulators are thanks to RetroArch.

RetroArch has additional video modes, including color palette management, filtering, overscan cropping and aspect ratio. Save points work for NES, Game Boy, SNES, Genesis, and others, however look in the recent pages of the Hakchi thread. The NES Classic is prone to crash from exiting games and creating save states for other consoles.

tbh I'd like to try to flash the official kernel to it and see if that works, but I doubt it will be possible. I'm going to be more proactive in hunting down a SNES Classic, and i already own a Gameboy micro with an EZ4
 

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I would quite like a dump of whatever's on it as is. I do wonder what its internals are, what it's running on, etc.
If it's running on something easily available, like a raspi, this could make for a good clone of the NES classic menu.
 

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reading the hakchi faq is informative. The internal emulator int eh official NES Classic is called "kachikachi," so if the "NES Crassic" has "Kachi - kachi emulator" then maybe there should be some compatibility?

When it does come (39-59 Days according to my order) I'll see if the hakchi tools work or not and try to dump the ROM.

Looking close at the video, it certainly looks like the NES Classic menu. The "welCome" is hopefully part of the TV, otherwise it may be part of the Crassic's bootloader and is hopefully independent of the NES emulator image.

The selection arrow is a lot more roughly animated compared to the official one, which is concerning. http://en-americas-support.nintendo...7340/~/nes-classic-edition-home-menu-overview
It might be video compression, or the Crassic uses a cheaper CPU.

USB cable for charging included, but seems no AC adapter. probably a good idea anyways.
 
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reading the hakchi faq is informative. The internal emulator int eh official NES Classic is called "kachikachi," so if the "NES Crassic" has "Kachi - kachi emulator" then maybe there should be some compatibility?

When it does come (39-59 Days according to my order) I'll see if the hakchi tools work or not and try to dump the ROM.

Looking close at the video, it certainly looks like the NES Classic menu. The "welCome" is hopefully part of the TV, otherwise it may be part of the Crassic's bootloader and is hopefully independent of the NES emulator image.

The selection arrow is a lot more roughly animated compared to the official one, which is concerning. http://en-americas-support.nintendo...7340/~/nes-classic-edition-home-menu-overview
It might be video compression, or the Crassic uses a cheaper CPU.

USB cable for charging included, but seems no AC adapter. probably a good idea anyways.
The "1P" "2P" icons are different as well, as well as the game title - and Bros is missing the "Bros." dot.
 

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I don't think the clone is running the same software. It would need the same hardware or some coding with equivalent hardware. For the price, it should/could be the same.
I believe the chinese just made up a look-alike GUI, just like they do with fake iPhones and such. Unless the original firmware is very easy to clone.
Looks (almost) the same, but is not. Now, unless the fake is a 1:1 copy I don't get it why they just didn't add more games and kept only 30. Maybe this really was made to 1)fool desperate buyers online who would hope these came from the original factory somehow 2)fool offline buyers once this gets distributed widely in import shops and second-hand game shops.
I hope they were at least able to dump the original emulator and video filters.
The splash screen seems to be from the console, not the monitor (the monitor briefly displays an automatic input selection screen).
So this was made like the "pandora box" for arcade, which have OK hardware and costs even less. Now let's hope emulation is good enough.
If prices go down, this could be an option for some gamers and collectors.

When you get it please take pics inside and out. If there's visible differences people should know so they don't get scammed.
Also tell us about the packaging, manual, poster, etc. Most of the times fakes use bad scans of the box to make the copy, sometimes they edit it for no reason with some random engrish.


The splash screen may be from the tv/monitor. We can only wait and see.

The video description says "Kachi - kachi emulator" so maybe it's not the original software?

for "visible differences " I can see that the logos and texts look very good BUT not perfect. Before I knew this was a clone, the Nintendo logo looked funky maybe even wrong red hue (but this could be just the picture).
 
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Sure, if you don't care about portability or mind lugging around a USB keyboard with you everywhere you take it. Virtual keyboard support in retropie has been requested a few times but never implemented.
You don't need a keyboard though.

For RetroPie, are the games just a list, or can you add a nice front end with cover art, like NESC?
You can, I don't use it cuz I'm lazy.
 

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You don't need a keyboard though.

Yes you do as some things like shaders and networking require a keyboard to set up. Yes, I know technically you can set up wifi without a keyboard by transferring wpa_supplicant but that just means you need to have a laptop running Linux with you.
 
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Yes you do as some things like shaders and networking require a keyboard to set up. Yes, I know technically you can set up wifi without a keyboard by transferring wpa_supplicant but that just means you need to have a laptop running Linux with you.
As you said, "to set up". But your previous post mentioned having a keyboard with you "everywhere you take it". And nope, you don't need one, you set everything up once and then you don't bring a keyboard everywhere.
 

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As you said, "to set up". But your previous post mentioned having a keyboard with you "everywhere you take it". And nope, you don't need one, you set everything up once and then you don't bring a keyboard everywhere.

And how exactly do you plan on choosing a wifi ssid and putting in a password without a keyboard when you get where you are going, magic? Exactly, so you need to lug around a USB keyboard with you.

Not to mention that the last time I checked, to even change shaders required a keyboard for the command line interface.
 

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And how exactly do you plan on choosing a wifi ssid and putting in a password without a keyboard when you get where you are going, magic? Exactly, so you need to lug around a USB keyboard with you.

Not to mention that the last time I checked, to even change shaders required a keyboard for the command line interface.
What do you need a Wifi connection for?
And I actually never changed shaders so I only use a keyboard on my Pi when playing Mouse Trap.
 

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What do you need a Wifi connection for?
And I actually never changed shaders so I only use a keyboard on my Pi when playing Mouse Trap.

Well you know different games look/play better with different shaders or other configuration options. Of course, I am sure you answer is "well just don't play those games".
 

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Well you know different games look/play better with different shaders or other configuration options. Of course, I am sure you answer is "well just don't play those games".
You skipped my first question.
And no, I actually play these games, I wanted a new shader for Link's Awakening (because GB games on a clear LCD screen look weird) but I didn't look for too long. Do shaders need to be set up everytime?
 

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You skipped my first question.
And no, I actually play these games, I wanted a new shader for Link's Awakening (because GB games on a clear LCD screen look weird) but I didn't look for too long. Do shaders need to be set up everytime?

Unless you want to use the same shader for all games or at least all gb/gbc games then yes. Of course you could always compile a separate copy of the core for those games with a different name so that it can have a different configuration.
 

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Asked a few questions, reply below:
"
Dear friend,
So glad to receive your message.
First, its totally new, and in a high quality.
Secondly, it comes with the retail box, you dont need to worry about this.
Finally, the price is great, and its on the limited time discounts, you should buy it now.
Thanks bro.
Best regards!!
"
so, seller did NOT ANSWER my questions, I sent a few more messages, let's wait and see... he seems to be the only one selling it online. So far, no one has tested one? Only places I've seen it online is for sale and on the video posted above, nothing else, no review, pics, nothing.
I just hope one can remove/change that crappy startup screen. Why not just use a plain black startup screen (if the system really needs one).
Now, it comes with a retail box, let's at least hope it is a 1:1 copy of the box.
He did not even mention it is a clone!
I bet 90% of people buying it believe it is a real NES CLASSIC. I don't care if it's a clone, but seller could be honest about it at least.
Now: make a 1:1 copy. Add something colorful and ugly that wasn't in the original. Voilà!
Yeah, chinese....
 
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These things tend to have the worst possible video output ever devised by a man.

You're better off imagining the games in your head than looking at sub-RF quality.
 

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