UPDATE: Regarding the recent 3DS banwave

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It appears that users are being banned from 3DS online services, en masse. There's no direct cause right now, and seemingly no linking factor. This post is meant as an announcement for users, to be wary, and that GBAtemp will keep you updated as soon as more info rolls in. If you have been banned, please post in the thread below, and we will try to keep tabs on the situation. To be extra sure, it can't hurt to turn off your 3DS's wireless capabilities, so you might as well do that for now.

Edit 1: it appears that e-Shop access isn't restricted if you are banned.

Edit 2: A caller to Nintendo reported that the company said this ban is due to "unauthorized software usage".

Edit 3: @LinkSoraZelda is collecting info. Contact him if you are banned.

Edit 4: Click and fill this out if you were BANNED.

Edit 5:
[11:28:19 PM] Clector: Curiously the page of that error in Nintendo Support website used to have this:Error Code: 002-0102 Situation: You receive the error code 002-0102 when attempting to connect online. What to Do: If you continue to experience this issue, please contact Nintendo by calling 1-800-255-3700. Representatives are available from 6 a.m. to 7 p.m., Pacific Time, 7 days a week.
[11:28:44 PM] Clector: Now it says this: What to Do: If you are experiencing this error code, your Nintendo 3DS family system has been banned due to unauthorized system modifications, play of unauthorized versions of one or more games, and/or connecting to the official game servers in violation of our terms of service. This ban is effective immediately and requests to remove the ban will not be processed.
Thanks to @Joom

Edit 6: Aurora Wright is taking another poll here

Edit 7: Not a lot is known but

There are bans happening, they are happening in all regions.
All models in the 3ds family seem to be candidates for banning.
There is no indication they will be anything other than permanent.
A game or DLC may end up being a cause but there is no one game or DLC that ties banned users together.
The cause or causes are as yet unknown, though it does seem to be related to modifications. Reports of unmodified consoles being banned are as yet unproven.
The banning is tied to something you can modify, thus you can unban. Doing it while the causes are unknown is likely only going to burn a working token though.
There are semi public tokens out there, Nintendo knows how to browse a forum as well as you so don't be surprised if they also get banned.
It does not seem to be limited to a given base firmware version, it does not seem to be limited to any one custom firmware type. There is some speculation that older hacking methods are not being hit as hard but nothing to confirm this yet.
The data collection could have happened this morning, or it could have been months in the making.
A simple check to see is checking your friends list, by itself it will not ban you.
Some are turning their wifi off. It is doubtful this will be of much use and being banned does not seem to come with any downsides that wifi being off will not also mimic.
You may have escaped a ban thus far but it could happen at any point. It could be that they stop in the future, it has happened on other consoles, but you would be living in hope rather than any particularly well founded logic.
The bans are done on the side of Nintendo's servers rather than your 3ds so there is also that.

If you hack your devices/games then their online functionality may be troubled. This has been known for decades, Nintendo seems to have finally caught up with that.

Please continue to share information with the thread or the links in previous edits.

Update 5/30

HOW TO HELP AVOID BANS (we think)​

If I was to guess from the information we have gathered since the ban wave, it seems likely that they are looking for TitleIDs that don't exist. Homebrew shows up in the activity log as the Download Play app, and fake CIA's show up as just ??????. That last one is what I'm guessing they are looking for.

If you are not banned yet or before you unban yourself, go into your friends list, choose settings, and turn off the option to "show friends what game you are playing." This will prevent you from playing games online with friends, so turn it back on when you wanna game with someone, but ALWAYS keep it off when running custom CIAs. Next, go into system settings -> internet settings -> spotpass, and turn off BOTH options. One is auto download software, the other sends system information to Nintendo. Also, make sure you don't have your favorite title set to something stupid like FBI or any other non-Nintendo CIA.

Its VERY likely that these options are what tipped off Nintendo, but we aren't 100% certain yet. The amount of banned people that had one of these options turned on was over 80% for each. If I was to assume that some of those people overlap, its very possible (but not confirmed) that 100% of banned people in the survey had at least one of those options turned on. I personally had all of them off and I have TONS of reasons for Nintendo to ban me.... yet I am not banned (yet).

Another bit of advice: Only run custom CIAs when offline, and after you close them, run a "legit" game like Smash Bros. or something before shutting down or going back online. This way your most recent title won't show up as a fake CIA

Current Theories as to what causes a ban
* SpotPass Settings: 8 users out of 46 users that were banned have SpotPass completely shut off, or SpotPass only (no friends list visibility)
* Firmware Version (Luma, Nintendo): Literally all reports ranged from 10.2+, I can get exact numbers for this if you'd like, but all firmwares were affected.
* Firmware Type (A9LH, B9S): 44 of the 126 B9S users that answered were banned, pattern was mirrored for A9LH users as well.
* Homebrew Titles such as FBI, HBL, Luma Updater, Themely, and freeShop: Literally about 98% of users both banned and unbanned had some combination of these applications installed. However the common ones were: FBI, HBL, LumaUpdater and NTR.
* Save Modification: Equal amounts of users on both sides have reported save modification in some form, either with PKSM or another save editor
* System Transfers: 188 users said that they had not previously system transfered, 61 of those users were banned; 16 users said they transferred from a hacked console, only three of them received a ban; 13 said they transferred from a stock system and likewise were banned. The rest of our sample did not answer this question.
* Activity Log Information: A majority of those who have not been banned have said they had NOT cleaned their activity logs. I can get exact numbers for this too on request.

This information is just what I've found. Like I said, there could be variables or things we haven't even checked for yet. But these are things that I feel should be disproven, at least with the current dataset we have.

  • From the information that we've gathered from some people that have used a packet sniffer such as WireShark, the following data is sent to Nintendo's online gaming servers as soon as the 3DS connects to the internet:
    • Amount of time spent online (timer stops when either the system is disconnected from the internet, or connection drops out, then starts the timer again in a new session when it reconnects to the internet).
    • The game being played and amount of time spent on it during that session.
    • The console's unique hexadecimal ID used in the LocalFriendCodeSeedB, along with it's RSA-signed signature.
    • The console's serial number in which is broadcasted from the SoC and is hard coded in the SoC.
    • Friend Code generated on the Nintendo 3DS system, if one has been generated.
    • Internet connection status (either online or offline).
    • The Nintendo Network ID, if there is one linked to it.
    • Even if the sending of SpotPass Information is switched off, or even hiding your currently playing games. It does not prevent the system from sending currently playing information to Nintendo's online gaming servers, it only hides it from your friends in your friend list (like being invisible on the forum, while mods and admins can still see you). Why? Because even people without a Friend Code on their system have been getting banned too!

  • The following data is NOT sent to Nintendo's online gaming servers:
    • The data from the Nintendo 3DS's Activity Log. Oddly enough, while Nintendo does explicitly state that they collect Activity Log data, they're actually referring to their own server's Activity Log, which always tracks every console's online activity, and keeps a record of them that is stored forever. And is only collected in increments of data through a timer and a currently playing list.
    • Games or apps that have not been played, regardless if they're legitimate or not. You only get tracked when you're online and using that game or app.
    • Using games or apps while offline. Even though it is stored on the 3DS console's Activity Log, that data is NOT sent to Nintendo's online gaming servers.
    • Custom Firmware. Though we can't rule out the possibility of them releasing a 3DS update in the future that adds such function to collect MD5 hashes of files and FIRM data and send them to Nintendo online gaming servers (which would also be updated in a maintenance).

  • Things that people think what happens with consoles, but really doesn't:
    • "LocalFriendCodeSeedB is transferred to the system upon doing a system transfer". This is false, the LocalFriendCodeSeedB remains on the system and does not move to another system.
    • "The console generates a LocalFriendCodeSeedB upon first startup". Again, this is false, the LocalFriendCodeSeedB is made during the manufacturing process at Foxconn. It is generated at the factory, flashed to the NAND flash memory storage, then created as an account on Nintendo's online gaming server and Nintendo eShop server immediately when being manufactured. It is absolutely impossible to generate a LocalFriendCodeSeedB and be able to connect to Nintendo's online gaming server and/or Nintendo eShop server, even if you knew the RSA generation key for it. You'd end up with Error Code 002-0102 "This console's online services have been restricted by Nintendo" if you even tried (the error can either mean two things: The hexadecimal ID doesn't exist on the server, or the request to access the hexadecimal ID has been denied which in other words... banned). So a LocalFriendCodeSeedB generator will NEVER happen! Because it's not worth doing, if it can't connect.
    • Switching off "Currently Playing" information. Once again, this does not hide your online activity from Nintendo's online gaming server, it only hides it from your friends.
    • Switching off SpotPass. Nope, this too doesn't hide your online activity from Nintendo's online gaming server, it only opts-out of receiving SpotPass data, sorry.

So pretty much the bottom line is, if anyone has been using custom apps and/or titles not installed through Nintendo eShop while online in the past, guess what? You're screwed! And it is only a matter of time before your console's unique hexadecimal ID in the LocalFriendCodeSeedB is banned from Nintendo's online gaming server. This will mean, your console can't access the Friend List or play any online functions in games.

If you have been online while using custom apps and/or titles not installed through Nintendo eShop and haven't been banned yet, that's because Nintendo hasn't caught up to you yet. They're still going through each unique hexadecimal ID's Activity Log on their server, and by Activity Log, I mean the Activity Log on their server, not the 3DS console's activity log. And it will be only a matter of time before you're banned too.

Thanks to @Platinum Lucario @MadMageKefka and @ShadowEO !
 

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I read somewhere in one of the ban threads that someone made a fake Zelda game and when people StreetPassed and clicked on the link to the eShop, they got banned but the faker didn't.

What's to stop someone that's banned already from making something like that or having homebrew app and StreetPassing people in a crowded place like Comic-Con, E3, TGS, etc.? Won't that get a lot of innocent people banned? Maybe there won't be any unbanned consoles left after this other than CFW with settings turned off.
atmn i dont think anyone knows if thsi affects streetpassing (i hope not otherwise how i get my carcass outta trouble when i Die in PMD:GTI is over :/ )
 

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First, thanks for this !

But, is there a quick way to see which games have spotpass enabled ?

And for the eShop point, you need to be connected to the internet to do it... What i won't do before being safer and safer ! x)

You don't need to enable internet to disable eShop recommendations, and all the games currently using spotpass are listed in the spotpass settings.
 

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The 3DS banwave support Discord proudly presents:
Preventive measures on sending information to Nintendo



- Settings -> Internet Settings -> Spotpass -> go inside each option, select no, save.

- Any other game that asks to use Spotpass, deny access to it.

- Inside the Friends List option, select Settings, first option, the second option should be set to no. You can also disable the first one if you feel it's more secure that way (no info at this point is available to say with certainty that friends seeing you online sends anything to Ninty).

- Disable eShop recommendations, go to Menu -> Settings/Others, scroll down to the Settings zone of the list, select Recommended Apps by Nintendo (or something along those lines, it's the second option and I'm roughly translating), select No, save. You can also select Home Menu Notifications and select no too, since it seems to use SpotPass. Better safe than sorry!

- Anyone who uses Mii Plaza, it also uses SpotPass, inside the Mii Plaza app, make sure you're not in Express Plaza (the one where you and your StreetPassed people appear running down a road), and go left until you hit Settings, go into it, there's a StreePass option and a SpotPass option, enter each option and disable both if you want, or just disable SpotPass, your call, since StreePass can't be correlated to bans right now. Further down there's an option asking if you want to Share Informations, disable that one too.

- It is also known that info will get sent even if the console is in sleep mode, so, to be safe on the extra side, either shut down your console, or shut down your wifi connection with the wifi button before you close the console and let it sit on sleep mode).


Maybe this can make you feel safe in the future, idk

Credits go to Zalexard, thank you, dude :)
I would definitely disable SpotPass in Mii Plaza. Only difference between my banned and not banned console is having some out of region title on Friend list as favorite and SpotPass on in Mii Plaza.
 
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that was a comment on the only OFW ban claim so far

Hopefully that's right. That would be one less thing to check up on.
Honestly, I would believe that a 100% if it weren't for the fact that some cfw users that fucked their whole 3ds through are still not banned.

So there's still not a good clear view at what the conditions of banning are. And there actually might be some clean 3ds that are banned still because of this.
 
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It actually is. If we got a more concrete proof that they even banned people who are legit clean, they crossed their terms of service for pre-empting a ban from mere assumptions of not being online for months.

If we got enough proof that those 3ds' are legit clean and the amount of people involved, even the minors, then it's entire and completely illegal.

Edit: And even without my point, yes. They ARE Dicks!
Yes but I'm not aware of any actual inmocent people who were banned. "Yea my ex's new husband's daughter's friend's mom's grandparent's sister's 3DS was banned despite being innocent" isn't gonna hold up in court.

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It actually is. If we got a more concrete proof that they even banned people who are legit clean, they crossed their terms of service for pre-empting a ban from mere assumptions of not being online for months.

If we got enough proof that those 3ds' are legit clean and the amount of people involved, even the minors, then it's entire and completely illegal.

Edit: And even without my point, yes. They ARE Dicks!
Nope. That's not correct. YOU are using THEIR servers. They can do with them what they want because it belongs to them. You accepted the rules, but it doesn't mean that they can't do what they want with you on that server.

Another example: A shop manager could ban you from the shop, even if you didn't do anything. It's his property and he can randomly ban people without any consequences.
 

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Do they have a note on how many clean systems were banned so far?
I'm still running my launch o3ds clean and it's ok, I'm curious to hear how many innocent consoles got beat with a hammer.
Some people may not know for months. Depending on how often I play and what games I play, I can go several months without ever touching any online play stuff.
 

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I don't think there is a banlist or something like that. I imagine a excel file with a ton of names and friend codes and that's just not right to me xD

I think they did something on their servers which trigger the ban when you connect to the internet with a modified console. That's why it pop up when you enter in your friendlist, you interact with nintendo's servers.

I also prefer this option because it would mean that disabling some "sharing data" features right now and stay a bit off internet with the 3DS could escape the ban xD

But,I have to admit, that's just guesses and hope. But "banlist" don't make sense for me too after all. Like, when doing the list, why not directly ban people ? Why wait for a wave ? (which make some mediatic issues... When few ppl are banned that's just like "hmm you cheated or didn't do things well" even if it's not the case, but when everyone is banned in the same time... Pretty clear Nintendo is behind)

There is a phrase concerning excel and it runs something like "if what you are doing fills more than the screen you are working on you should be using a proper database". This is a proper database job.

Every nominally closed system does server side banning, usually after some kind of local check in either the firmware/kernel or in piece of software run upon it. I know Nintendo's network security people are, to put it charitably, a bit behind the times and usually reactionary but that is too far gone for me to believe that they are still doing local mod checks.

Some companies/systems do have continuous processes, others wait for waves for various reasons. The most basic being they found a good tell for those running modified systems and have confirmed it works (false positives and the odd brick are OK, and even expected, for hackers, negative PR from that when you do it to all your customers is a harder matter). Why would Nintendo care if people know they are behind it, I checked and they have not yet released a press statement about this but a month or so ago ( https://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-wins-groundbreaking-mod-chip-court-case/1100-6448529/ ) they made a nice one after a court case? They look good to their investors, to the people making games, to the average pleb on the street (if they even care) and even most hackers and modders are well aware that hacking can trouble online play and treat it as part of the game. Another being you can prep your support staff so they can expect things. You might also want to wait for a good time to do it -- new model coming out, big game with online features you want people to buy, big game coming out with online features you want to frustrate the efforts of cheaters in or some other thing that sees you want a sales bump.
 

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You don't need to enable internet to disable eShop recommendations, and all the games currently using spotpass are listed in the spotpass settings.
I'm sorry but can you go more in detail ? I feel stupid but better ask than risk !
- I can find the list of games allowed to use streetpass features but not the spotpass thing. In Internet Settings, under spotpass, I only have two options, "automatic app downloading" and "send system infos" (translated from my french console) Both are no, but no list of games using spotpass ?!
- eShop recommendations settings are in the eshop app ?! If yes, it's not possible to get in without being connected to internet, it tells you "no connection" and just ask you to go on the homemenu and to come back with a working Internet...
Thank you !
 

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I have not been banned yet. At this point, should I avoid going online and using JKSM and NTR-based tools? Or would doing those not really help prevent a future ban?
 

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I'm sorry but can you go more in detail ? I feel stupid but better ask than risk !
- I can find the list of games allowed to use streetpass features but not the spotpass thing. In Internet Settings, under spotpass, I only have two options, "automatic app downloading" and "send system infos" (translated from my french console) Both are no, but no list of games using spotpass ?!
- eShop recommendations settings are in the eshop app ?! If yes, it's not possible to get in without being connected to internet, it tells you "no connection" and just ask you to go on the homemenu and to come back with a working Internet...
Thank you !
Maybe they're using a dev app to change settings.
 

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