Hacking [Poll] Bans and "send information about the console to Nintendo"

Ishtiaq1234 · May 25, 2017

my spotpass thing is off an i had my wireless enabled all day playing online on pokemon moon but im still not banned
im on cfw w/ a9lh so that may mean something though it probably doesnt =/

ThisIsDaAccount · May 25, 2017

So, does this then appear to be the cause for this so far?

kingaz · May 25, 2017

ThisIsDaAccount said:
So, does this then appear to be the cause for this so far?

There's some compelling evidence that this is *a* cause. Whether or not it is *the* cause is still unknown.

ThisIsDaAccount · May 25, 2017

kingaz said:
There's some compelling evidence that this is *a* cause. Whether or not it is *the* cause is still unknown.

Yeah, this is likely true. What do you think, @Aurora Wright?

el_gonz87 · May 25, 2017

LOL the majority had it enabled but aren't banned. Yep, seems like this is the cause.

kingaz · May 25, 2017

el_gonz87 said:
LOL the majority had it enabled but aren't banned. Yep, seems like this is the cause.

Can you count? Majority is more than 50%.

Also, among the people who were banned, overwhelming majority had spotpass enabled. Furthermore, the people who had spotpass enabled but haven't been banned aren't out of the woods. They just haven't been banned yet.

Aurora Wright · May 25, 2017

I think this is a cause (I mean from the data it's pretty clear) but possibly not the only one, maybe the other cause would be having shared the currently played title in the friends list.

AxlSt00pid · May 25, 2017

I still find very weird that the cause of the bans is this.
I almost never went online (and the times I went online I didn't cheat)
I disabled both options the day I got my N3DSXL (even on SNES VC)
97% of the time my N3DSXL was on airplane mode (1% for freeshop, another 1% for SD Card management and the last 1% for local multiplayer)
And I still got banned

angelus kun · May 25, 2017

Im using my console online And i don't have ban but snice day one (2 years ago) i have every tracking option OFF like eshop suggestions And spotpass console data sender, but recently i hide my conection status And muy currently played game

Ishtiaq1234 · May 25, 2017

Aurora Wright said:
I think this is a cause (I mean from the data it's pretty clear) but possibly not the only one, maybe the other cause would be having shared the currently played title in the friends list.

do you mean having a "hacked" application like freeshop or cia installed games as favorite title?

RocketRobz · May 25, 2017

I had to turn WiFi back on just to answer the poll.
I have it enabled and was NOT banned.
Now WiFi is back off.

el_gonz87 · May 25, 2017

kingaz said:
Can you count? Majority is more than 50%.

Also, among the people who were banned, overwhelming majority had spotpass enabled. Furthermore, the people who had spotpass enabled but haven't been banned aren't out of the woods. They just haven't been banned yet.

Actually majority is just the greater number, of the 4 categories that one had the most votes. This wasn't a binary choice.

Also, we don't know what the cause of the ban is, could this be the way Nintendo finds out? There is a very strong possibility. It's a stretch to say this is the cause of the ban LOL, especially when we don't know any other details such as CFW, titles installed, type of online use, etc...

There is a correlation between vehicle accidents and black colored cars, do you believe the cause of those accidents is the car color? LOL

Danne2 · May 25, 2017

Aurora Wright said:
I think this is a cause (I mean from the data it's pretty clear) but possibly not the only one, maybe the other cause would be having shared the currently played title in the friends list.

I actually had the spotpass setting enabled AND had Freeshop set as my favorite title on the friends list and I'm not banned as of now.

I haven't played online recently (a few months?) but I did update my console to boot9strap the other day (which involved the console going online for the friends list)

Vegalunder · May 25, 2017

I have enabled SpotPass and not been banned.
Is it really the cause of the banwave?

erman1337 · May 25, 2017

I disabled it months ago, not banned.

kingaz · May 25, 2017

el_gonz87 said:
Actually majority is just the greater number, of the 4 categories that one had the most votes. This wasn't a binary choice.

Also, we don't know what the cause of the ban is, could this be the way Nintendo finds out? There is a very strong possibility. It's a stretch to say this is the cause of the ban LOL, especially when we don't know any other details such as CFW, titles installed, type of online use, etc...

There is a correlation between vehicle accidents and black colored cars, do you believe the cause of those accidents is the car color? LOL

No, majority is over 50%. The word you are looking for is plurality.

We never said it was the cause of the ban, but it is probably a cause of the ban. You can quibble about other variables all you wish, but there is a strong correlation here.

Correlation certainly doesn't prove causation on its own, but it does suggest it. For the black cars/collisions thing, if the correlation is strong, then it could suggest that there is a contributing element (such as making black cars harder to see at night), or it could be a proxy variable for some other factor or set of factors (who buys black cars, what their driving habits are, etc).

twicefalles · May 25, 2017

can we unban with friend code swap, like pokemon sun/moon ban wave?

angelus kun · May 25, 2017

I have a theory What if there are 2 classes of spotpass information? I mean the console information spotpass And the game information spotpass soo im not banned but if i cheat a specific game like mk7 with mk7 spotpass setting active soo.. it Will be a ban only for this game right?

kingaz · May 25, 2017

twicefalles said:
can we unban with friend code swap, like pokemon sun/moon ban wave?

Friend code seed, and yes. However, until the causes are better established, it is unwise to burn the seeds. They have to come from an unbanned console. We can't sign them without Nintendo's private keys.

el_gonz87 · May 25, 2017

kingaz said:
No, majority is over 50%. The word you are looking for is plurality.

We never said it was the cause of the ban, but it is probably a cause of the ban. You can quibble about other variables all you wish, but there is a strong correlation here.

Correlation certainly doesn't prove causation on its own, but it does suggest it. For the black cars/collisions thing, if the correlation is strong, then it could suggest that there is a contributing element (such as making black cars harder to see at night), or it could be a proxy variable for some other factor or set of factors (who buys black cars, what their driving habits are, etc).

You don't base an assumption off of just 1 metric, there should be more information as to what the people did, especially with such a small sample size....

Believe what you want, but I think you have a very misguided view of statistics.

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