Russian vlogger gets 3.5 year sentence for playing Pokemon GO in a church

chrisrlink · May 11, 2017

Haider Raza said:
I am a Muslim by the way. Atheists are kind of dumb they think what they have everyone should obey them. Now a days atheism is becoming like a anti-religious group. Claiming what they have is right & what religious people have is wrong. They forgot how fox news brainwash them every single day. They forgot what reality is because some of them who join anti-religious groups don't have a little bit of understanding. A religion never teaches anyone to do bad. People who do bad & claim themselves to be part of religion is a lame claim. Because they have same brain f-cked understanding like anti-religious groups. Also people from anti-religious group forgot that there are 99% more bad cases from people who have no religion then there are from 1% religious people. You can check wikipedia for murder cases around the world. You will find 99% non-religious people & 1% religious people in those cases. Look how media brainwash you people every day. Open your eyes before you also join the side of anti-religious group for nothing.

oh i agree but some people like me who was muslim for a breif time to marry somebody (technicly lied to her cause i wasn't praying (go figure she rarely wears her hijab recently and is bisexual you cant pick and choose what you do in islam it's all or nothing but i can say this i became angrier as a muslim than an aitheist i do not force shit down others throats w/e they believe in i respect ik a lot of taxi drivers locally who are muslim of arab origin it's not aitheist that you must fear it is the white supremisist and neo nazi's they are not religious groups just hate groups (I despise most republicans (that I've met) cause of trump it's like a damn light switch turned on since trump took office I even am scared for my life cause i had 1 or 2 threats on my life just for being muslim for a while

Kolyasisan · May 11, 2017

He said nothing about believers in his video. It's just our stupid people can be easily pissed off with the goverment together. There was also not a single word about the religion itself nor the church, he was mocking the goverment only. Yes, it's pretty stupid of him, but come on, how more shitty can we get? Also, Simpsons' age rating has been changed here from 16 to 18 because of a mocking scene. The goverment says it's "not safe for CHILDREN to watch it".

leon315 · May 11, 2017

lets get over with this guys, it'll just bring us to nowhere, and we are unable to change what makes russia, let's go back to where all we started, on how absurd that russia sentenced that poor vlogger

RaMon90 · May 11, 2017

What the hell, why not 1 to 3 months? I mean wow 3n half years just because of a smartphone videogame.
Edit: At least he isn't going to jail, he's gonna work for free. Still exaggerated

MoonUsotsuki · May 11, 2017

As a good citizen, you should know the law, it was a foolish move om his part... that been said, that law is amoral, given the fact that it alienates the people who don't share those beliefs. The state should care for all the citizens.

Deleted-379826 · May 11, 2017

Geez, I mean it's true he shouldn't have done it and I guess it can be slightly rude to some but geeez. This is very strict, in no way did he deserve this even though he shouldn't have done it. rip

FAST6191 · May 11, 2017

Ah Russia.

I am curious that some here seem so quick to throw free speech out of the window though.

the_randomizer said:
They respect freedoms as much as a vegan and vegetarian enjoys enjoys meat.

I don't think being vegetarian/vegan precludes you from liking meat. I mean I find some tomato based dishes delicious (chilli, lasagne, spaghetti bolognese, not all pizzas need tomatoes but there are delicious examples of those with them) but as it invariably ends with me sitting on the can the next day/in about 6 hours with the following going round in my head I tend to avoid dishes using them

ned said:
That's what you get for not playing Tetris.

For giggles I was going to redo all the guy's "crimes", however that would have necessarily involved playing pokemon go and my remaining street cred (nor any mobile phone I have here) could handle that. Being as it involved Russia though my next choice would have been gay sextris.
That and I looked up a picture of this Patriarch Kirill guy and while my beard can match his I am going to need to put down the books and get back to the mats for a couple of months before I take on a guy waving around flaming sticks like he owns the place

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Haider Raza said:
If something is illegal you can't & do illegal stuff because it's against the country rules. Every country have there own rules. You have to obey them to live there. If you don't want to then you can go to some other country or stay where you are & do illegal stuff & go to jail for it.

Civil disobedience is a viable strategy at times. If you want to live in peace and quiet it probably is a good plan to obey any laws, no matter how awful/contrary to general principles that govern whatever ethics/morality you want to follow. In this case I am not surprised something happened (as others said it is Russia) but as the guy seemed to want to make a statement, and because of him I am seemingly now aware of some other suspect law making and enforcement in Russia. Likewise if Russia wants to put itself forward as a forward thinking country then having enforced laws like this would seem to be a bit hypocritical.

duffmmann · May 11, 2017

People keep saying this is free speech, but I really don't see it that way. I mean is it free speech if you urinate on someone's grave? I suppose you could argue as much, but the family of that person's grave you urinated on will understandably be devastated and pursue whatever legal action they can, and frankly I'd hope that such a person would end up in jail. People need to learn that free speech doesn't mean that you can do ANYthing you want, you still have to have some respect and be rational. That holocaust museum understandably banned Pokemon Go there, if you don't like it, too bad, just respect it and don't be an asshole, you can play the dumb game just about anywhere else in the world, you're not banned from playing the game entirely just in certain places. You wouldn't walk in a place that says no trespassing, and if you did, its understandable why you could then find yourself in legal trouble, or worse shot and killed depending on where you are.

cthompson80 · May 11, 2017

It's quite simple. A law is in place. You violate it. You pay the consequences for those actions you made. How to avoid this problem? Don't be dumb enough to break the law and then even more so recording yourself doing it for all the world to see. I say it's justified until the law changes, if ever.

Life lesson to all the kiddies out there. If you don't break the laws of the land then you don't get in trouble. It doesn't matter if you don't like it or that it's irrational. Obviously laws can be followed otherwise they'd never have gotten passed. Common sense goes a long way in life and today's generations don't have much sense, let alone common sense, at all.

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bi388 · May 11, 2017

cthompson80 said:
It's quite simple. A law is in place. You violate it. You pay the consequences for those actions you made. How to avoid this problem? Don't be dumb enough to break the law and then even more so recording yourself doing it for all the world to see. I say it's justified until the law changes, if ever.

Life lesson to all the kiddies out there. If you don't break the laws of the land then you don't get in trouble. It doesn't matter if you don't like it or that it's irrational. Obviously laws can be followed otherwise they'd never have gotten passed. Common sense goes a long way in life and today's generations don't have much sense, let alone common sense, at all.

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Guess you don't understand what a protest is since you seem to believe he is some kid just refusing to follow their laws. He deliberately broke it to send a message, stop painting young people with some "kids these days" brush just because they won't deal with speaking out against religious being illegal like you will.

Sketchy1 · May 11, 2017

It's retarded I'll admit, but he did break the law so......

Justice is served

cthompson80 · May 11, 2017

bi388 said:
Guess you don't understand what a protest is since you seem to believe he is some kid just refusing to follow their laws. He deliberately broke it to send a message, stop painting young people with some "kids these days" brush just because they won't deal with speaking out against religious being illegal like you will.

A kid in my eyes is under the age of 25. I've met very few younger that actually acted older than their age. At least in a mature sense.

It doesn't matter if it was a protest. He broke the law. Tough shit.

Oh and I could give a rats ass about religion. I don't practice it myself. It's a personal choice. Not a requirement. He done the crime. The idiot deserves the time. Besides it's only 3.5 years. I'm sure he could have gotten more. Hopefully he'll learn a lesson. I doubt it though.

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bi388 · May 11, 2017

cthompson80 said:
A kid in my eyes is under the age of 25. I've met very few younger that actually acted older than their age. At least in a mature sense.

It doesn't matter if it was a protest. He broke the law. Tough shit.

Oh and I could give a rats ass about religion. I don't practice it myself. It's a personal choice. Not a requirement. He done the crime. The idiot deserves the time. Besides it's only 3.5 years. I'm sure he could have gotten more. Hopefully he'll learn a lesson. I doubt it though.

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But this is his intended result. It isn't tough shit for him. People around the world, like us, who would otherwise not know about this are now talking about it. He brought attention to an issue. He won the battle from the moment he started discussion, whether they arrested him or not.

the_randomizer · May 11, 2017

Glad I don't live there lol, granted yes, it was stupid for him to play Pokemon Go in a church, but being punished with jail time is a douche move on Russia's part, considering their absurd laws and stances on religion as a whole.

SG854 · May 11, 2017

sarkwalvein said:
I couldn't care less about this. I don't like this whole idea of nationalism TBH, and I expect to receive backlash but who cares.

Nationalism Pride is stupid. We should be able to criticize and praise, the goods and bad's of our own country. And why shouldn't you criticize your own country, just because you're from there?

Justinde75 · May 11, 2017

This is old news. Happened over 2 weeks ago

cthompson80 · May 11, 2017

bi388 said:
But this is his intended result. It isn't tough shit for him. People around the world, like us, who would otherwise not know about this are now talking about it. He brought attention to an issue. He won the battle from the moment he started discussion, whether they arrested him or not.

Well I guess he's satisfied with the result then. I personally don't want to spend time in any jail. It doesn't seem pleasant but hell what do I know, right?

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FAST6191 · May 11, 2017

duffmmann said:
People keep saying this is free speech, but I really don't see it that way. I mean is it free speech if you urinate on someone's grave? I suppose you could argue as much, but the family of that person's grave you urinated on will understandably be devastated and pursue whatever legal action they can, and frankly I'd hope that such a person would end up in jail. People need to learn that free speech doesn't mean that you can do ANYthing you want, you still have to have some respect and be rational. That holocaust museum understandably banned Pokemon Go there, if you don't like it, too bad, just respect it and don't be an asshole, you can play the dumb game just about anywhere else in the world, you're not banned from playing the game entirely just in certain places. You wouldn't walk in a place that says no trespassing, and if you did, its understandable why you could then find yourself in legal trouble, or worse shot and killed depending on where you are.

Pissing on a grave (or anywhere) could count as an act of vandalism, damage or something similar. After this dude was done doing what he was doing there was... absolutely nothing broken or changed, or at least nothing tangible. If he had disrupted a service or something then there may be more scope for something, though we still may get to argue some kind of protest.
A museum, presumably being a private building, would in turn be free to ban what it likes so that does not make such a great comparison here. Had he been done for some kind of disturbing the pace, disruption of an event or something similar then I am sure we would still have some kind of discussion, this however was not that and a prosecution under a law that would not and possibly even could not exist in many countries of the world that people tend to desire to live in, and its existence in this case speaks to a rather fundamental difference in the philosophies of law governing the countries and some would argue not a good one (here sanctions are being visited upon someone that has arguably done no harm at all*).

*if my saying Buddhists are a bunch of violent shitheads is indeed enough to cause a breakdown in civil order, or harm enough to note, and thus would want to be stopped then so it goes. Generally though if you are big enough and ugly enough to have a religion then you are similarly able to see it questioned or insulted. It might not be that useful as a mode of discourse (I mean I would like to make fun of religion but they do a better job of that themselves than anything I can ever pull off), and might not get anywhere fast but you can hardly regulate against that sort of thing.

cthompson80 said:
It's quite simple. A law is in place. You violate it. You pay the consequences for those actions you made. How to avoid this problem? Don't be dumb enough to break the law and then even more so recording yourself doing it for all the world to see. I say it's justified until the law changes, if ever.

Life lesson to all the kiddies out there. If you don't break the laws of the land then you don't get in trouble. It doesn't matter if you don't like it or that it's irrational. Obviously laws can be followed otherwise they'd never have gotten passed. Common sense goes a long way in life and today's generations don't have much sense, let alone common sense, at all.

Nobody here thus far is surprised that violating a law has consequences; it is the existence of the law, prosecution taken seriously under it and the sentence it incurred that is under discussion and causing eyebrows to be raised.

seam · May 11, 2017

good.

duffmmann · May 11, 2017

FAST6191 said:
Pissing on a grave (or anywhere) could count as an act of vandalism, damage or something similar. After this dude was done doing what he was doing there was... absolutely nothing broken or changed, or at least nothing tangible. If he had disrupted a service or something then there may be more scope for something, though we still may get to argue some kind of protest.
A museum, presumably being a private building, would in turn be free to ban what it likes so that does not make such a great comparison here. Had he been done for some kind of disturbing the pace, disruption of an event or something similar then I am sure we would still have some kind of discussion, this however was not that and a prosecution under a law that would not and possibly even could not exist in many countries of the world that people tend to desire to live in, and its existence in this case speaks to a rather fundamental difference in the philosophies of law governing the countries and some would argue not a good one (here sanctions are being visited upon someone that has arguably done no harm at all*).

*if my saying Buddhists are a bunch of violent shitheads is indeed enough to cause a breakdown in civil order, or harm enough to note, and thus would want to be stopped then so it goes. Generally though if you are big enough and ugly enough to have a religion then you are similarly able to see it questioned or insulted. It might not be that useful as a mode of discourse (I mean I would like to make fun of religion but they do a better job of that themselves than anything I can ever pull off), and might not get anywhere fast but you can hardly regulate against that sort of thing.

If a place you don't own that you're a guest at has rules. Even if you don't agree with them, I don't give a shit, follow the rules, and everything will be fine. A sign says don't trespass, then don't trespass, if you're at a waterpark and the rules for the rides say don't stand on this ride, don't stand. You always can do these things that you're told not to, but if you do, then you have to face the consequences yourself and I feel no sympathy for you. That guy knew the rules and broke them anyway, he deserves to be punished.

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