Hardware Connecting Wii to PC or PC monitor (VGA/HDMI)

Metoroid0 · Oct 18, 2016

i was thinking of connecting composite video (yellow) cable, since it outputs all video signals into one cable, to a monitors vga cable. they are both analog. wii can also output in 3 modes.

my monitor is wievsonic ve710b model from 2005. if it helps... i saw people connect wii to a pc monitor with a cable connector adapter without any special devices (maybe its my monitor fault)

this is the video... i just wanna make that cable

Futurdreamz · Oct 18, 2016

Did you happen to notice anything odd about that cable?

Metoroid0 · Oct 18, 2016

Futurdreamz said:
Did you happen to notice anything odd about that cable?

what do you mean?

ned · Oct 18, 2016

You'll probably be best butchering a wii rgb-scart cable if you want vga + audio.

Gizametalman · Oct 18, 2016

It's IMPOSIBURU
Unless you actually buy an adaptor.
First things first:
1.- The Wii uses ANALOG signal. Your PC uses DIGITAL signal. There's no way to "rewire" cables and turn Analog to Digital by just doing that.
2.- You cant neither rewire a USB to a HDMI or VGA or any other SIGNAL cable. This is because USB sends and recieves DATA, not SIGNAL.
3.- You cant also rewire a HDMI to any other signal cable, call it VGA or any other. Their format is incompatible, and it's a different signal from each cable. So no compatibility. UNLESS you buy an adaptor.

Metoroid0 · Oct 18, 2016

Gizametalman said:
It's IMPOSIBURU
Unless you actually buy an adaptor.
First things first:
1.- The Wii uses ANALOG signal. Your PC uses DIGITAL signal. There's no way to "rewire" cables and turn Analog to Digital by just doing that.
2.- You cant neither rewire a USB to a HDMI or VGA or any other SIGNAL cable. This is because USB sends and recieves DATA, not SIGNAL.
3.- You cant also rewire a HDMI to any other signal cable, call it VGA or any other. Their format is incompatible, and it's a different signal from each cable. So no compatibility. UNLESS you buy an adaptor.

i was thinking of connecting composite video (yellow) cable, since it outputs all video signals into one cable, to a monitors vga cable. they are both analog. wii can also output in 3 modes.

my monitor is wievsonic ve710b model from 2005. if it helps... i saw people connect wii to a pc monitor with a cableconnector adapter without any special devices (maybe its my monitor fault)

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ned said:
You'll probably be best butchering a wii rgb-scart cable if you want vga + audio.

i already did, but i dont know what to wire to where

trying to figure out

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this would be my monitor i try to connect wii to via vga cable http://www.viewsonic.com.au/products/archive/VE710b.php

ned · Oct 18, 2016

hdboxpro try an find one of those if you can.
Cheapest solution is a pc capture card or usb dongle with component inputs, you could get a composite one instead since their common and piss cheap but the video quality will be shit.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-2-0-H...638088?hash=item4d38b17e48:g:1DIAAOSwKrhVZpkV

Metoroid0 · Oct 18, 2016

i was thinking of making one, not buying. why does everione giving me links to buy cable. thanks but thats not the point of thread...

tswntk · Oct 18, 2016

Many have already told you, this an electroic project with ICs and PCB, no simply wiring can do the job.
It is just like I have an old TV, how can I made a cable to make it view HD video? That is impossible.

See if you can handle this Composite to VGA Converter Circuit Diagram

If you can't make any sense out of it, then quit asking unless you are a troll.

Metoroid0 · Oct 18, 2016

YOU PEOPLE ARE STRANGE.

Im not a trol for starters. im not really going to just revire, thats what i think it can be done, but i dont know much. i wanted to have fun and to listen to ideas and to do thinks, to try to make something and learn, but all you say is buy adapter, quit, if you cant read dont do thing..i did not heard anyone giving me links, tutorials, diagrams (except you) advices on how to do something, to talk and explain and point in what direction i should go (i researched my self though to learn about signals, cables and stuff, but not with anyones help here) its really sad... i can swear people where different before when i was asking similar quwstions on gbatemp here...

If you dont want to distuss, explain, help, have fun, or talk, PLEAASE DONT ANSWER TO THIS THREAD.

tswntk said:
this an electroic project with ICs and PCB, no simply wiring can do the job.
See if you can handle this Composite to VGA Converter Circuit Diagram

i WILL TRY, THANKS. i cant understan it all but some of it. but does this diagram means it can be made?

also, how is that composite? i mean doesn the composite cable has one video and 2 audio conectors.. i mea this diagram shows red green and blue channels, isnt that component and not composite where video signal is in one vire?

Why not simple wiring cant do the job? I have component, composite and scart cables for wii by the way.

Also, does it has something to do with horizontal and vertical sync?

Deleted User · Oct 18, 2016

You can't just splice 2 different video cables, there needs to be something in-between that converts the signal. People are suggesting you purchase other hardware because there's no point wasting your time doing it yourself, someone has made the hardware you desire that's cheap and is plug and play.

Why go the hard yards when someone's done it for you.

Metoroid0 · Oct 18, 2016

king_leo said:
You can't just splice 2 different video cables, there needs to be something in-between that converts the signal. People are suggesting you purchase other hardware because there's no point wasting your time doing it yourself, someone has made the hardware you desire that's cheap and is plug and play.

Why go the hard yards when someone's done it for you.

Its not really about just pluging in bought adapter and play wii, its about doing stuff and having fun and learning for me. i will buy adapter, i just want to learn how things work and i thought i could make something..i still do but i understand it a little more.

Anyway...why to convert the signal when wii outputs analog sygnal and VGA cable on monitor is also an analog?

Anunnymous · Oct 18, 2016

OP - Everyone is jumping around your question and I know that's frustrating. But believe it or not, they ARE giving you good advice. It doesn't matter that the Wii outputs in 3 modes, the fact of the matter is you can't just wire a composite/component/SCART to a VGA cable and it magically works. The signal HAS to be converted. There is NO WAY around having to convert the signal. To convert the signal you will need ICs and a programmer to program the ICs. I can find a schematic if you really want to do it yourself. The reason everyone is giving you links to buy something is because it is going to be way cheaper to buy the pre-made/pre-programmed adapter then to build a converter and programmer.

http://www.darren-criss.org/vga-con...vga-converter-schematic-c9e846596dd5080f.html

There's a schematic but you will need to build a programmer to program that IC. You will probably have to write your own code for the IC because nobody wants to do what you're asking to do so the program isn't readily available.

Good luck

By the way, no one is trying to be an asshole. They're just trying to save you a lot of heartache.

Edit:

Metoroid0 said:
Anyway...why to convert the signal when wii outputs analog sygnal and VGA cable on monitor is also an analog?

Because that's the nature of the beast. While VGA and Composite are both analog, they run at different syncs and timings. Think of it like trying to put a Chevy engine in a Ford pickup. While it can be done, there's a lot of "converting" you have to do.

Metoroid0 · Oct 19, 2016

Anunnymous said:
OP - Everyone is jumping around your question and I know that's frustrating. But believe it or not, they ARE giving you good advice. It doesn't matter that the Wii outputs in 3 modes, the fact of the matter is you can't just wire a composite/component/SCART to a VGA cable and it magically works. The signal HAS to be converted. There is NO WAY around having to convert the signal. To convert the signal you will need ICs and a programmer to program the ICs. I can find a schematic if you really want to do it yourself. The reason everyone is giving you links to buy something is because it is going to be way cheaper to buy the pre-made/pre-programmed adapter then to build a converter and programmer.

http://www.darren-criss.org/vga-con...vga-converter-schematic-c9e846596dd5080f.html

There's a schematic but you will need to build a programmer to program that IC. You will probably have to write your own code for the IC because nobody wants to do what you're asking to do so the program isn't readily available.

Good luck

By the way, no one is trying to be an asshole. They're just trying to save you a lot of heartache.

Nah, i just want to learn. Thanks for first normal answer xD so thats the thing....i see... Can you ehplain me why the signal needs to be converted?

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And im Metoroid0 not OP xD

tswntk · Oct 19, 2016

because you are trying to dive before you learnt to walk.
If you don't know anything about electronic, it will take you one to two years of schooling before you can built something like that on your own.
If you understand the circuit diagram, you can google circuit diagrams for component/VGA/RGB/... to whatever converters.
Want to learn more about different video standards? google for composite/VGA/... standards/specifications.

It is unlikely you can learn something that "big" from a forum. You need basic understanding about the subject and then ask for specific helps not asking for something impossible.
You may ask how to build an adapter (with basic electronic knowledge) but not how to make simple wiring for that to work (which is impossible).

Metoroid0 · Oct 19, 2016

tswntk said:
because you are trying to dive before you learnt to walk.
If you don't know anything about electronic, it will take you one to two years of schooling before you can built something like that on your own.
If you understand the circuit diagram, you can google circuit diagrams for component/VGA/RGB/... to whatever converters.
Want to learn more about different video standards? google for composite/VGA/... standards/specifications.

It is unlikely you can learn something that "big" from a forum. You need basic understanding about the subject and then ask for specific helps not asking for something impossible.
You may ask how to build an adapter (with basic electronic knowledge) but not how to made simple wiring for that to work (which is impossible).

thank you

dreary79 · Oct 19, 2016

These aren't going to be cheap, but I might save up for one:

http://retrogaming.hazard-city.de/ossc.html/

Anunnymous · Oct 19, 2016

https://www.maximintegrated.com/en/app-notes/index.mvp/id/1184

This can explain it better than I can. This is just an example and isn't true or accurate at all cause I don't know the actual numbers but... Basically composite throws a line on the screen every, let's say 10 milliseconds. Well VGA throws a line on the screen every 16 milliseconds. So you're outputting composite at 10 milliseconds but your display wants 16 milliseconds. While you will, in fact, get a picture; it's not going to be the picture you desire. Like I said, this isn't accurate but just an example why it doesn't work. Now the Wii wasn't designed to output with the timing of VGA so it will never work. Unless you convert the signal to match the timing of your monitor. There is more to it than that but this should give you a little idea.

ned · Oct 19, 2016

Try asking on portable console mod forums their used to this kinda jiggery pokery hardwiring lcd screens etc.
Faginrs500, could probably help you he's a videophile for retro consoles, dude be all about his scanlines lol.

GerbilSoft · Oct 19, 2016

Anunnymous said:
This can explain it better than I can. This is just an example and isn't true or accurate at all cause I don't know the actual numbers but... Basically composite throws a line on the screen every, let's say 10 milliseconds. Well VGA throws a line on the screen every 16 milliseconds. So you're outputting composite at 10 milliseconds but your display wants 16 milliseconds. While you will, in fact, get a picture; it's not going to be the picture you desire. Like I said, this isn't accurate but just an example why it doesn't work. Now the Wii wasn't designed to output with the timing of VGA so it will never work. Unless you convert the signal to match the timing of your monitor. There is more to it than that but this should give you a little idea.

It's not really the timing that's the issue. (Some monitors can handle 480i over VGA; most can't.) The issue is that VGA expects all the signals to be on separate wires. (Red, Green, Blue, HSync, VSync; some monitors do support CSync or Sync On Green, but that's besides the point.) Composite video is basically a monochrome video signal (like the Y signal on component), with the color added using a specially-encoded subcarrier. This was done as a cheap way to add color to TV signals without breaking compatibility with black&white TVs.

You can't simply connect a composite video line to VGA input and expect it to work. Best case is you'd get a monochrome signal with interference; worst case is you'll get nothing.

I got a Hyperkin Wii/PS3 to VGA cable a while back and it works fairly well. It takes the component video output (YPbPr) from the Wii, runs it through a transcoder chip, and outputs a VGA signal. This particular cable doesn't do upscaling, so if your monitor doesn't support 480i, you'll need to use 480p. (Unfortunately there's a few Wii and GCN games that don't support progressive scan without hacks.)

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