Sure, but what are you going to do about it? Throw your vote away and risk the candidate you disagree with 100% of the time? Voting for an unpopular candidate is not going to help with that candidate's popularity problem, and there's no other tangible gain from voting for him or her.
I'll take that risk if it means that maybe my children will have a third party to vote for - I will "throw away" vote after vote by sticking to what I believe in until what I believe is right and just wins. Advocating for change is paramount, but so is the voting. In fact, voting is an integral element of the equation. People need to *see* that there is a certain subset of the population that's voting third-party to even entertain the idea that it's a viable choice.
All you've said was that "the founding fathers couldn't vote" which I countered by saying that they voted with their actions and even if they had the ability to vote, they would vote independence over any form of dominion anyways. You also said that "they had no representation" - neither do Libertarians at this point. Neither major party represents their interests. Finally you said that they "defended their rights", to which I replied that so are Libertarians, or so they believe. Not everyone was on-board with independence, Loyalists were a faction after all, and I can see how your reasoning is sensible to you, however that doesn't mean that other points of view are invalid.
Are you telling me libertarians don't have the right to vote, and they don't have the right to advocate for their positions? I know you're not, so just concede and move on. Don't pretend you're at all analogous to the oppressed.
What good is a right to vote if neither candidate represents your interests? If I give you a chance to vote whether you'd like to be shot in the face or the back of the head, that's a false choice - you want to vote to "not die". Getting shot in the face is narrowly worse as it makes your corpse less presentable, technically speaking the back of the head is preferable, but you're not going to vote for it because it violates your core belief that you shouldn't have to choose between how you get shot, how is that in any way confusing? In that situation I choose to tell whoever is trying to shoot me to go f*ck himself, even if it does absolutely nothing. Maybe witnessing my act of defiance will inspire someone.
It's not my fault that your candidate and views are wildly unpopular.
It's as much a false analogy as it is a false choice. If you view the competition between X and Y as analogous to shot in face and shot in back of head, then you shouldn't vote for X nor Y. My spiel was about people with a preference.
The preference is not looking mangled during your funeral. To some people their principles are as important as their life, if not more - betraying them is as good as just biting they bullet already.
If you truly have no choice between the two, then you should choose the cause of death you prefer, right? If you don't care, then it doesn't matter.
I'm sorry, but that's the most retarded thing I've ever read. The viable choice is to show defiance so that others don't find themselves in the same situation in the future, seeing that the vote is public. I will sacrifice my visage, which I hold dear as I'm a handsome son of a gun, to make a statement against false choices. The principle outweighs the possible benefits of not looking like a Sloppy Joe in your coffin.
Did you read mine? Even with a gun against my head I can choose option 3, which is telling whoever is putting my life in jeopardy to go f*ck himself, regardless of whether option 1 or option 2 is going to "win" because it doesn't matter to me as much as having some dignity. Option 3 doesn't save my life and I'll potentially get shot in the face which is worse than the back of the head, but at that point I don't care, my option is still better.
Lol, did you not read my other qualifier?
If you're going to ignore me, then I'm done.
I'm getting shot either way. Trump or Hillary will win the election, but I can still vote Johnson because it's better than either of the candidates in the lead. I can tell them to go f*ck themselves. I'm still getting shot, how I get shot is immaterial.
It sounds like you lack a true preference between the two major party candidates, which kind of makes this entire conversation pointless.
Out of the two I prefer Trump as I'm right-leaning, however I wouldn't necessarily vote for him if I were American because certain policies of his go against what I believe. He's the "gun against the back of the head" in this equation, in case it requires a qualifying statement.
Speaking of Trump's website, didn't he say he was self-funding his campaign with his "beelleeons" of dollars?
We both know he doesn't self-fund his campaign. He has loaned his campaign money that it pays back to Trump using money people have donated. He also charges his campaign exorbitant amounts of money for the use of the things he privately owns in order to siphon campaign donations into his pocket. Finally, Trump got a super PAC not long after he won the nomination.
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