Hacking USB Loader GX

GreyWolf · Jul 5, 2016

@ThePanchamBros Your IOS249 is a stub and that's the one USB Loader GX tries to use first.

You have the right d2x v10 in slot 250 so installing the same version as 249[56] should at least get you closer to the loader working. (I use ModMii to get those but you can use the installer app, too.)

ThePanchamBros · Jul 5, 2016

GreyWolf said:
@ThePanchamBros Your IOS249 is a stub and that's the one USB Loader GX tries to use first.

You have the right d2x v10 in slot 250 so installing the same version as 249[56] should at least get you closer to the loader working. (I use ModMii to get those but you can use the installer app, too.)

so what do I do to ios 249? I'm confused.

GreyWolf · Jul 5, 2016

ThePanchamBros said:
so what do I do to ios 249? I'm confused.

Your syscheck report says you don't have an IOS in 249. Wii games need a custom IOS to run from USB. If you get ModMii on the cIOS download page there is an option to download and build WADs for d2x. It defaults to v8 so if you want the same version as what you have in 250 you'll want to type "BETA" and change the settings to v10beta52.

It will make a WAD file that you can put on an SD card and install using a mod manager.

wiiba · Jul 8, 2016

I am having problems with getting USB Loader to recognise the games i've put on the hdd via Wii backup manager. Can someone please help? My sys files are:

Code:

sysCheck v2.1.0b19 by Double_A and R2-D2199, Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: PAL
System Menu 4.3E (v514)

Drive date: 2007.02.13
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58
HomebrewFilter ist nicht installiert
Hollywood v0x11
Console ID: 80822978
Boot2 v4
Found 68 titles.
Found 48 IOS on this console. 15 of them are stub.

IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 256): Stub
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 256): Stub
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 2816): Stub
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 5120): Stub
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 6400): Stub
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 6912): Stub
IOS80 (rev 6944): No Patches
IOS222 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS223 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS236[36] (rev 65535, Info: rev 3351): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS249[56] (rev 20, Info: rev 20): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[38] (rev 20, Info: rev 20): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10

Report generated on 2016/07/08.

LWares87 · Jul 8, 2016

wiiba said:

I am having problems with getting USB Loader to recognise the games i've put on the hdd via Wii backup manager. Can someone please help? My sys files are:

Code:

sysCheck v2.1.0b19 by Double_A and R2-D2199, Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: PAL
System Menu 4.3E (v514)

Drive date: 2007.02.13
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58
HomebrewFilter ist nicht installiert
Hollywood v0x11
Console ID: 80822978
Boot2 v4
Found 68 titles.
Found 48 IOS on this console. 15 of them are stub.

IOS3 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 256): Stub
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 256): Stub
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 2816): Stub
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 5120): Stub
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 6400): Stub
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 6912): Stub
IOS80 (rev 6944): No Patches
IOS222 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS223 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS236[36] (rev 65535, Info: rev 3351): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS249[56] (rev 20, Info: rev 20): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[38] (rev 20, Info: rev 20): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10

Report generated on 2016/07/08.

i would honestly use ModMii to remod your wii. other than that... make sure that your files aren't compressed if using a NTFS partition and make sure that if you're using a FAT32 partition that it's set to the first active partition (if i'm wrong someone people correct me). Also, make sure that you're using the correct file directory format for either Wii or/and Gamecube games (regardless if you're using Nintendont, DIOS MIOS (Lite) or Devolution).

wiiba · Jul 8, 2016

LWares87 said:
i would honestly use ModMii to remod your wii. other than that... make sure that your files aren't compressed if using a NTFS partition and make sure that if you're using a FAT32 partition that it's set to the first active partition (if i'm wrong someone people correct me). Also, make sure that you're using the correct file directory format for either Wii or/and Gamecube games (regardless if you're using Nintendont, DIOS MIOS (Lite) or Devolution).

OK, so I did a complete ModMii installation, and it was much more easy, thank you. Now the issue is that the USB Loader doesn't recognise that a hard drive is present. And the USB loader GX doesn't load, but just returns back to the Wii Menu. I'm using a Samsung M3 portable HDD 500gb.
edit: more info
I have the HDD set to FAT, and the files have been converted to wbf by WiiBackupmanager. Just when i have it plugged into the correct USB port, now USB loader still asks for a HDD to be inserted.

LWares87 · Jul 10, 2016

wiiba said:
OK, so I did a complete ModMii installation, and it was much more easy, thank you. Now the issue is that the USB Loader doesn't recognise that a hard drive is present. And the USB loader GX doesn't load, but just returns back to the Wii Menu. I'm using a Samsung M3 portable HDD 500gb.
edit: more info
I have the HDD set to FAT, and the files have been converted to wbf by WiiBackupmanager. Just when i have it plugged into the correct USB port, now USB loader still asks for a HDD to be inserted.

The external HDD has to always be inserted into the left usb port on the console (right, if you're looking at it from the back).
Make sure that you're using the correct file directory format for either Wii or/and Gamecube games (regardless if you're using Nintendont, DIOS MIOS (Lite) or Devolution).

For example:
Wii = "x:/wbfs/Super Smash Bros. Brawl [RSBP01].wbfs" or "x:/wbfs/Super Smash Bros. Brawl [RSBP01]/RSBP01.wbfs"
GameCube = "x:/games/GO7E69/game.iso"

select the Drive 1 tab and choose the drive letter that your using, go to options -> settings and select the FAT32/NTFS tab. adjust the settings to your preference, then click OK.
this should hopefully help you with your problem. if not, then you may have to reformat your partition as FAT32 for it to work properly with the loader (as i don't think FAT partitions are supported, could be wrong of course).

sideskroll · Jul 10, 2016

Hi guys. I'm wondering if somebody could confirm what I think is an issue.
I'm trying to set the width for GC games to 108 (708) so they don't look "deformed". But it appears to not be working at all (or maybe it's just with the games I'm trying?)
Could somebody confirm if it is indeed working? Or if maybe the parameters are not being passed on to Nintendont (which I know, would be an issue with the latest Nintendont build so I would take it to them in that case)
The games that show no changes whatsoever are Mario Sunshine, Eternal Darkness and Crash Tag Racing.
Thanks.

USBL GX r1260 and Nintendont 4.xx (can't remember the exact build but I just updated yesterday)

Cyan · Jul 10, 2016

I didn't remember there was an option to change the width in nintendont !

try setting the scale and position directly from nitendont options (not from USBLoaderGX) and see if it has the same result.
If it works when launching nintendont from HBC, then it's a bug in USBGX or the nintendont settings needs some updates, if not then it's an issue with nintendont, or with these games.

Maybe the games are re-initializing the video mode themselves after the launch.

sideskroll · Jul 10, 2016

Cyan said:
I didn't remember there was an option to change the width in nintendont !

try setting the scale and position directly from nitendont options (not from USBLoaderGX) and see if it has the same result.
If it works when launching nintendont from HBC, then it's a bug in USBGX or the nintendont settings needs some updates, if not then it's an issue with nintendont, or with these games.

Maybe the games are re-initializing the video mode themselves after the launch.

Already did. No dice. But I could SWEAR it worked fine before.
If the games do mess with the video parameters, could something be done to prevent that?

*Edit* btw, did you ever got the chance to test the WD usb 3 drives?

Cyan · Jul 10, 2016

sorry

But I still think about it (if it's of any consolation). Maybe when I'll be in holidays (in august)

sideskroll · Jul 10, 2016

Cyan said:
sorry
But I still think about it (if it's of any consolation). Maybe when I'll be in holidays (in august)

LOL, don't sweat it. It's working at least. Although by reloading 249 after 58 inits the drive... But I think it would be good to know WHY it works on the Wii but not vWii, don't you think?
So, about the video modes. Any ideas?

Cyan · Jul 10, 2016

I don't know about the video mode. Fix94 knows Gamecube commands better.
You said it used to work, maybe try older version and see if there's one who broke the feature.

wiiba · Jul 10, 2016

LWares87 said:
The external HDD has to always be inserted into the left usb port on the console (right, if you're looking at it from the back).
Make sure that you're using the correct file directory format for either Wii or/and Gamecube games (regardless if you're using Nintendont, DIOS MIOS (Lite) or Devolution).

For example:
Wii = "x:/wbfs/Super Smash Bros. Brawl [RSBP01].wbfs" or "x:/wbfs/Super Smash Bros. Brawl [RSBP01]/RSBP01.wbfs"
GameCube = "x:/games/GO7E69/game.iso"

select the Drive 1 tab and choose the drive letter that your using, go to options -> settings and select the FAT32/NTFS tab. adjust the settings to your preference, then click OK.
this should hopefully help you with your problem. if not, then you may have to reformat your partition as FAT32 for it to work properly with the loader (as i don't think FAT partitions are supported, could be wrong of course).

I've tried everything you've said, but I still can't get it to recognise it. Here is how the hdd is arranged:

ca032769 · Jul 11, 2016

sideskroll said:
Already did. No dice. But I could SWEAR it worked fine before.
If the games do mess with the video parameters, could something be done to prevent that?

*Edit* btw, did you ever got the chance to test the WD usb 3 drives?

I'm using an original Wii with a WD 8TB USB3.0 My Book (wall power adapter) with USB Loader GX & Nintendont without any Wii or GC issues.

One 8TB MBR FAT32 Partition set as PRIMARY & ACTIVE with 64K clusters/4096 byte sectors.

TecXero · Jul 11, 2016

Guy who doesn't know how to Quote said:
I'm using an original Wii with a WD 8TB USB3.0 My Book with USB Loader GX & Nintendont without any Wii or GC issues. One 8TB MBR FAT32 Partition 64K clusters.

I'm pretty sure USB Loader GX and the cIOSs aren't compatible for GPT and 8TB is too large for MBR, if I remember correctly.

sideskroll · Jul 11, 2016

ca032769 said:
I'm using an original Wii with a WD 8TB USB3.0 My Book with USB Loader GX & Nintendont without any Wii or GC issues. One 8TB MBR FAT32 Partition 64K clusters.

Perhaps the issues are only with WD Elements drives. I even gave @Cyan the link to the same exact drive I'm using and he got it. So it's just a matter of him testing it whenever he gets the chance.

*EDIT* Nevermind, I re-read your reply. I also mention that the issue is apparently only present if using a WiiU, on a Wii the same drive works perfectly fine.

TecXero said:
I'm pretty sure USB Loader GX and the cIOSs aren't compatible for GPT and 8TB is too large for MBR, if I remember correctly.

No GPT, MBR and 1 FAT32 primary partition.
The HDD works. But I have to use a workaround for the init problem (edit the meta.xml file to use IOS58 for the init and then switch to 249 once the drive is loaded) so it is not an issue with formatting or size.

GinNoKaze · Jul 11, 2016

Cyan said:
You probably tried to set "SD path" to usb.
"SD path" NEED to stay on SD CARD.

did you correctly tried to change "gamecube main folder" to USB?
if you did, then you have an old version of USBLoaderGX, please update to r1260 from my signature and launch from HBC.
If you have a full channel instead of forwarder, follow this to replace the channel.

im on the most recent version, the usb path is set to usb1:/games/
the loader still refuses to see that a game is there

wiiba · Jul 11, 2016

Cyan said:
I don't know about the video mode. Fix94 knows Gamecube commands better.
You said it used to work, maybe try older version and see if there's one who broke the feature.

My USB Loader only has 1 partition available in settings on the hdd, WBFS. I'm having trouble getting the Loader to recognise the files have put on the drive. It's just not reocognising it, I've reformateed it in FAT and WBFS

Cyan · Jul 11, 2016

TecXero said:
I'm pretty sure USB Loader GX and the cIOSs aren't compatible for GPT and 8TB is too large for MBR, if I remember correctly.

MBR can only assign up to 32bit sector number.
but if the partition starts at sector 63, and is 4096bytes/sector, maybe it can fit in MBR. I haven't done the calculus.

FAT32 (which is 32bit) can go up to 16TB

sideskroll said:
I also mention that the issue is apparently only present if using a WiiU, on a Wii the same drive works perfectly fine.

I still haven't install any cIOS on my vWii

I only have HBC. I'll have to install d2x to test it.

GinNoKaze said:
im on the most recent version, the usb path is set to usb1:/games/
the loader still refuses to see that a game is there

the path is now correctly set to USB, and you still don't see games?
Be sure you enabled gamecube games in the 4th icon on the top menu.
Be sure you set "Main+SD" in the settings>loader settings>gamecube source.

wiiba said:
My USB Loader only has 1 partition available in settings on the hdd, WBFS. I'm having trouble getting the Loader to recognise the files have put on the drive. It's just not reocognising it, I've reformateed it in FAT and WBFS

Why did you quote that message, is that related to your issue?
I don't understand this part:

My USB Loader only has 1 partition available in settings on the hdd, WBFS.

I think you don't have a WBFS partition, as you posted a picture of a drive with a file system in it. So you have a FAT partition.
Format it to FAT32, not FAT or FAT16 or ExFAT.

Don't format to WBFS.

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