Hacking (PSA) Stop the Gatehate

The Real Jdbye · Jun 26, 2016

GalladeGuy said:
Yes, of course, because the benefits of having a working console don't outweigh the risks of spending 20 minutes setting up CFW. No one talks shit about Gateway until people make stupid threads like these saying Gateway is our lord and savior and that it's the best thing to ever happen to the 3DS. I think you guys are misinterpreting "Don't use Gateway. CFW is better." as "OMFG HOW DARE YOU USE GATEWAY SO BAD EWWW GROSS!!1!"

Did you even read the first post? That's not what it's saying at all. It's not defending Gateway, it's shaming the people who trash talk Gateway in every thread where someone as much as mentions it, even when the person is quite satisfied with their Gateway cart.
And you know what's funny? I don't think any of the people trash talking the Gateway have ever used one.

I own a Gateway, and I have Luma3DS. They both work with A9LH, both work with the latest firmware, and both will play all the 3DS games you could want. CFW has the benefit of being open which leads to people contributing to it and it having more features. Is that a good thing? Sure. It is a reason to talk trash about Gateway? Apparently, according to some people it is. But is it a good reason? Hell no.
And there is nothing preventing me from using both and getting the benefits of .3DS rom loading and a robust cheat system along with the extra features CFW has like GBA/DSiWare support.
So what was that about having a working console? Last time I checked my 3DS still works perfectly fine.

GalladeGuy said:
Gateway has also bricked people's consoles for no reason at all. The card just decides to brick the console. And who would want to read some big wall of text about something that's plain wrong?

Because if you read it you'd know that everything said in that post is true and you completely misunderstood the point of this thread.

EmceeKerser · Jun 26, 2016

Zelock said:
Just realised, why is this a PSA? It's not like we're going to go to hell if we don't use Gateway? How does this affect my personal safety?

PSA stands for public service announcement, not personal safety announcement

GalladeGuy · Jun 26, 2016

Zelock said:
Just realised, why is this a PSA? It's not like we're going to go to hell if we don't use Gateway? How does this affect my personal safety?

It doesn't. It's against your personal safety. He's telling you to spend money on something that could ruin a console you payed $200 for.

Deleted member 381889 · Jun 26, 2016

lafleche said:
Then find cia's, there were 3ds roms are more easy to find.... convert them and install them.

FreeShop, TicketDevil, CIAngel, FunkeyCIA, etc.

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EmceeKerser said:
PSA stands for public service announcement, not personal safety announcement

oh

GalladeGuy said:
It doesn't. It's against your personal safety. He's telling you to spend money on something that could ruin a console you payed $200 for.

lmao

EmceeKerser · Jun 26, 2016

The Real Jdbye said:
Did you even read the first post? That's not what it's saying at all. It's not defending Gateway, it's shaming the people who trash talk Gateway in every thread where someone as much as mentions it, even when the person is quite satisfied with their Gateway cart.

Are you seriously complaining about gateway shaming? Grow up

lafleche · Jun 26, 2016

GalladeGuy said:
Except using CFW is even easier. Turn on your 3DS. Open up freeShop. Select the game you want. Wait a couple minutes for it to install. (Depends on how big the game is. Obviously it will take a lot longer to install bigger games, but since most people have really slow SD Card adapters, it's usually faster then copying to an SD Card anyways.)

And what you do miss is that modding your 3ds is a far more tedious and risky business especially when you are not on the 'golden' 9.x firmware.
IF all was as easy as modding a PSP -which is really just pressing the OK button twice- perhaps then....

atm. I personally prefer my current setup with Gateway .... so no gatehate for me :-)

NiggomBiggom · Jun 26, 2016

EmceeKerser said:
I cannot honestly believe there are still people defending Gateway. They deliberately bricked units, their product is expensive, their coding is stolen and dodgy. CFW is free, brick proof, doesnt require a DRM cart, and is easy to use

Its like still using Dialup internet over Fibre, just because 'it was first' and 'innovative'

No. Its shit.

Also, who cares if people shit on you for making the retarded decision to buy a gateway. Grow up and move on.

ok one, nintendo deliberately bricked units too. you gonna throw away your 3ds now? two, the reason your comparison is so extreme is that gateway isn't that far behind cfw. they're only missing a couple features. i wouldn't compare dialup to fibre, i'd compare FiOS to Fibre if you really wanna go that far. gateway is actually efficient, and it works for daily use. it's not an unstable hunk of garbage and it only bricks people who are dumb enough to not know that using a clone on someone else's launcher will brick. thirdly, i guess it sounds ok when you say "who cares" but then it makes you sound more like an oaf because i could just as easily say, "who cares if you make the retard decision to buy a gateway" why should anyone care enough to repeat the same trend of trying to cuckold anyone that says anything about gateway?

The Real Jdbye · Jun 26, 2016

EmceeKerser said:
Are you seriously complaining about gateway shaming? Grow up

No, I'm complaining about the amount of trash posts in the 3DS section that contribute nothing to the thread at all and turn whole threads into several pages of people complaining, something that is quickly happening to this thread as well. It's not limited to just Gateway, people will complain about just about anything and lately it's been getting worse and worse. I normally avoid threads like that because it's better that way. I really like what OP is trying to do with this thread but clearly it's not possible to have a civilized conversation in the 3DS section anymore and anyone who actually tries to point it out gets shat on and the thread ends up devolving into the same circlejerking and shitposting that they're trying to prevent.

GalladeGuy · Jun 26, 2016

lafleche said:
And what you do miss is that modding your 3ds is a far more tedious and risky business especially when you are not on the 'golden' 9.x firmware.
IF all was as easy as modding a PSP -which is really just pressing the OK button twice- perhaps then....

atm. I personally prefer my current setup with Gateway .... so no gatehate for me :-)

Except it is. It's literally just copying a bunch of files onto your SD Card and going to a website on your 3DS.

EmceeKerser · Jun 26, 2016

NiggomBiggom said:
ok one, nintendo deliberately bricked units too. you gonna throw away your 3ds now? two, the reason your comparison is so extreme is that gateway isn't that far behind cfw. they're only missing a couple features. i wouldn't compare dialup to fibre, i'd compare FiOS to Fibre if you really wanna go that far. gateway is actually efficient, and it works for daily use. it's not an unstable hunk of garbage and it only bricks people who are dumb enough to not know that using a clone on someone else's launcher will brick. thirdly, i guess it sounds ok when you say "who cares" but then it makes you sound more like an oaf because i could just as easily say, "who cares if you make the retard decision to buy a gateway" why should anyone care enough to repeat the same trend of trying to cuckold anyone that says anything about gateway?

lel. GW is that far behind, because its literally obsolete.

Gateway isnt efficient - it costs moneys and takes the same amount of time and effort to set up as cfw
CFW works for daily use.
CFW isnt unstable, a9lh is the most stable 3ds entrypoint in existence. It has made the console unbrickable. Luma is fairly stable in my experience. Menuhax is stable too, for the most part
It wasnt the fault of dumb people that they got bricked. It was Gateway's for putting in malicious code.

Name one reason why you should buy a Gateway. One.

NiggomBiggom · Jun 26, 2016

Zelock said:
Just realised, why is this a PSA? It's not like we're going to go to hell if we don't use Gateway? How does this affect my personal safety?

it saves minds from going braindead because of the "self-fulfilling cycle of toxicity rage and angst"

but seriously the title was a joke. it originally had exclammation points and question marks but i deleted them by accident and submitted the thread

ihaveahax · Jun 26, 2016

EmceeKerser said:
lel. GW is that far behind, because its literally obsolete.

Gateway isnt efficient - it costs moneys and takes the same amount of time and effort to set up as cfw
CFW works for daily use.
CFW isnt unstable, a9lh is the most stable 3ds entrypoint in existence. It has made the console unbrickable.
It wasnt the fault of dumb people that they got bricked. It was Gateway's for putting in malicious code.

Name one reason why you should buy a Gateway. One.

cheats is probably one that others would tell you.

I doubt anyone actually supports buying a Gateway card today. the other issue is others who already have one who got it a long time ago, when it was the only good choice or something.

wiiuser2 · Jun 26, 2016

Hi all, I am perfectly happy with my Gateway card and Luma as CFW. Both selectable at startup with the three stage A9LH implementation. Best of both worlds I would say. Gateway excels in usability with the 3ds convenience over CIA's and the excellent cheat engine, Luma is perfect in playing my ancient Acecard2i NDS card. Both sharing the same Emunand as well. I am never touching my sysnand anymore.

For me it is simple: if you don't like Gateway (or can't afford one), please don't post anything about it anymore and happily continue with your CFW. I am perfectly fine with that.
Equally the Gateway owners can enjoy the benefits of it and don't need to post shit about CFW's. As I said, there is a reason for existence for both of them as Gateway is still lacking some functionalities which can be found in CFW's.

Just my 2 cents........This is my first and for sure my last post about this topic :yay3ds:

sj33 · Jun 26, 2016

I'm a Gateway owner and the cart has served me well over the year and a half I've had it, but let's be clear - they deserve all of the critisism they receive.

I don't think it's necessarily fair to critisise Gateway for not stacking up to newer CFW because that's simply how things have progressed - Gateway have become less relevant as the scene has progressed. But critisising them for bricking, stealing code, artificially limiting features to increase reliance on their hardware etc. is all fair enough.

EmceeKerser · Jun 26, 2016

ihaveamac said:
cheats is probably one that others would tell you.

I doubt anyone actually supports buying a Gateway card today. the other issue is others who already have one who got it a long time ago, when it was the only good choice or something.

Absolutely, if you already have a Gateway card, might as well use it.

But no one can honestly say that going out right now and buying one is a good idea. And you certainly cant say that they hold some kind of benefit over cfw. Theyre obsolete

NiggomBiggom · Jun 26, 2016

EmceeKerser said:
lel. GW is that far behind, because its literally obsolete.

Gateway isnt efficient - it costs moneys and takes the same amount of time and effort to set up as cfw
CFW works for daily use.
CFW isnt unstable, a9lh is the most stable 3ds entrypoint in existence. It has made the console unbrickable.
It wasnt the fault of dumb people that they got bricked. It was Gateway's for putting in malicious code.

Name one reason why you should buy a Gateway. One.

i'm not here to argue about why people should buy gateways. they literally do most of what cfw do, the point was to get people to stop circlejerking the same shit over and over again about their 'superior' pieces of plastic and telling people to throw the shit that they payed money for away. it's a waste of server space if we're being completely honest

Redferne · Jun 26, 2016

NiggomBiggom said:
ok one, nintendo deliberately bricked units too.

No they did not. It was a bug and they exchanged all bricked unit for free.
Read that: https://hackmii.com/2009/11/updates-and-bricking/

EmceeKerser · Jun 26, 2016

NiggomBiggom said:
it's a waste of server space if we're being completely honest

And so is this thread. Why do you care? Just ignore them.

NiggomBiggom · Jun 26, 2016

sj33 said:
I'm a Gateway owner and the cart has served me well over the year and a half I've had it, but let's be clear - they deserve all of the critisism they receive.

I don't think it's necessarily fair to critisise Gateway for not stacking up to newer CFW because that's simply how things have progressed - Gateway have become less relevant as the scene has progressed. But critisising them for bricking, stealing code, artificially limiting features to increase reliance on their hardware etc. is all fair enough.

of course they deserve criticism, i didn't say they were free of all this. what i was conveying was that the reasons for people complaining about these things are really not accurate, and can easily be combatted. like i said in the op, "we're all fighting for the wrong reasons"

Redferne said:
No they did not. It was a bug and they exchanged all bricked unit for free.
Read that: https://hackmii.com/2009/11/updates-and-bricking/

read the op. korean wiis are still being bricked to this day.

EmceeKerser · Jun 26, 2016

NiggomBiggom said:
read the op. korean wiis are still being bricked to this day.

From wiibrew

"The so called Error 003 occurs when a System Menu 4.2 or higher from a different region gets installed onto a Korean Wii."

So Korean Wiis brick when someone tries to install a system menu from a different region?

WOW BIG SHOCK. FUCK NINTENDO

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