Homebrew [Release] Bread Box (C64 Emulator)

Muxi · Jun 1, 2016

spinal_cord said:
OK, go grab BreadBox_01_6_16.zip from the fist post, I think I've fixed the shift key, also added cmb and ctrl key to the virtual keyboard.

I have a problem with the CIA version.
If a D64.File to be loaded, the program exits and the system must be restarted.

My System:
N3DS 10-7-0-32E with AL9H and CFW Luma3DS v5.5

is it possible to add another key is pressed while holding the CTRL key?
What about autoload and start with Load"*",8,1 ?

TVL · Jun 1, 2016

I have the same issue as the above poster, CIA-version crashes. It crashes both trying to mount or start a disk. The .3dsx works great though.

spinal_cord · Jun 1, 2016

Hmmm, I'll have a look at that tomorrow. Odd that.

SLiV3R · Jun 1, 2016

spinal_cord said:
Hmmm, I'll have a look at that tomorrow. Odd that.

I love that you are working with this emulator!

spinal_cord · Jun 1, 2016

Out of curiosity, do you guys still have /c64/prefs.ini on your SD card when using the .cia version? Both versions will still try to read/write to it.

TVL · Jun 1, 2016

Awesome, one thing that I would think would make this even better would be if you could assign the 3DS-buttons to joystick commands. Example B = JoyUp, which would give you a jump button instead of pushing up (which I would really prefer when it's Dpad instead of stick). Would also be nice to have the option to change the fire-button from A to something else. Really enjoying this emulator.

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spinal_cord said:
Out of curiosity, do you guys still have /c64/prefs.ini on your SD card when using the .cia version? Both versions will still try to read/write to it.

Yep. There is one thing that's a bit odd though, it doesn't go to /c64/games... Always starts at the root of the SD when looking for disk images.

urherenow · Jun 1, 2016

spinal_cord said:
Out of curiosity, do you guys still have /c64/prefs.ini on your SD card when using the .cia version? Both versions will still try to read/write to it.

I do. I can load a few of the games I've tried, but it crashes when I try to start the game (Impossible Mission is one example), and I never hear any sound. Below the Root gets to a blue screen stat says "Cracked by RIK." and doesn't seem to go further.

Edit: I can actually play Forbidden Forest a bit, but still no sound.

urherenow · Jun 1, 2016

TVL said:
Yep. There is one thing that's a bit odd though, it doesn't go to /c64/games... Always starts at the root of the SD when looking for disk images.

prefs.ini is set for c64/games/. You probably didn't make a /games/ folder to put your stuff in. Neither did I. After work...

Jiro2 · Jun 1, 2016

spinal_cord said:
57fps? It should only be runnning at 50fps, its a European system.

The C64 was released in the USA and an emulator has to be able to support 60 fps.

Muxi · Jun 2, 2016

d64-files are in /c64/games folder. pref.ini is in /c64 folder
3dsx-version works fine, cia-version crashes at start of any diskimage

urherenow · Jun 2, 2016

@spinal_cord would it be too much to ask to push the latest code to github? Also wondering which version of ctrulib you're using (if you even use it... I haven't tried to build your old code even but I'm getting interested now.)

TVL · Jun 2, 2016

I know it reads the prefs.ini since I had assigned runstop and space to B and Y and just replaced the file because I thought that might do the trick. It didn't, still starts off at the root of the SD card.

The image in the first post, that's how the UI used to look (C64_3DS_01.png)? And the instrutions:

spinal_cord said:
When loading a game, (A) will attempt to autoload, the however does not work if the first file on the disk in not executable. This is a shortcomming of the C64, not the emulator.
(X) will mount the disk and show its contents. You can then (while holding (R)) move the cursor up to the filename that you want to load and hit(A),(again, while still holding (R)).
(Y) will mount the disk without loading anything. this is required to multi disk games.

Is also old? Or am I missing something. I press start -> settings -> start disk image when I want to load a game (ends up at the root of the SD in .3dsx but works, snapshots are saved in c64/games/ too, but that might be because of current dir instead of getting it from prefs.ini, and crashes and resets the 3DS in the cia-version).

spinal_cord · Jun 2, 2016

TVL said:
I know it reads the prefs.ini since I had assigned runstop and space to B and Y and just replaced the file because I thought that might do the trick. It didn't, still starts off at the root of the SD card.

The image in the first post, that's how the UI used to look (C64_3DS_01.png)? And the instrutions:

Is also old? Or am I missing something. I press start -> settings -> start disk image when I want to load a game (ends up at the root of the SD in .3dsx but works, snapshots are saved in c64/games/ too, but that might be because of current dir instead of getting it from prefs.ini, and crashes and resets the 3DS in the cia-version).

Yes, that info is old.

You have to select 'Load disk image' to auto load a game, 'Mount Disk Image' to only mount the disk.

I'm having real trouble recreating the errors you guys are getting. It's working fine for me (I'm only testing the .cia version). Are there any specific games that aren't working?

kenseiden · Jun 2, 2016

Just wanted to mention that I'm also getting crashes upon loading any disk image on the latest (2016/06/01) CIA version. I was able to load a snapshot I made from the 3DSX version, but the emulator froze upon trying to reset and load another disk image (again, this is in reference to the CIA version).

stussy1 · Jun 2, 2016

I also don't get sound on thru the CIA version but get sound running thru hombrew launcher

Keep up the awesome work
Miss them last ninja days

Vague Rant · Jun 2, 2016

Jiro2 said:
The C64 was released in the USA and an emulator has to be able to support 60 fps.

"Has to", haha. Frodo/BreadBox emulates a PAL machine. Certainly, it's not an emulator of every hardware arrangement of the C64, but neither does it claim to be; there are plenty of things it doesn't do, and that's one of them.

Jiro2 · Jun 2, 2016

Vague Rant said:
"Has to", haha. Frodo/BreadBox emulates a PAL machine. Certainly, it's not an emulator of every hardware arrangement of the C64, but neither does it claim to be; there are plenty of things it doesn't do, and that's one of them.

Okay, a non-stupid emulator for the C64 has to support 60 fps.

The C64 originated in the USA, which is NTSC. Leaving out the NTSC makes about as much sense as having a MSX emulator which only supports American ROMs, or releasing Doctor Who on DVD using only the edited Sci-fi Channel US broadcasts. Emulator authors are free to do stupid things, of course.

sarkwalvein · Jun 2, 2016

Jiro2 said:
Okay, a non-stupid emulator for the C64 has to support NTSC.

The C64 originated in the USA, which is NTSC. Leaving out the NTSC makes about as much sense as having a MSX emulator which only supports American ROMs, or releasing Doctor Who on DVD using only the edited Sci-fi Channel US broadcasts. Emulator authors are free to do stupid things, of course.

But NTSC C64 is itself stupid.
Even if it originated in America, all advanced development was made in Europe.
Why? Because only the PAL hardware allowed colour expanding hacks and so.
NTSC C64 is not the C64 to remember or emulate.

OT. Someone threw this little one next to my house yesterday. Poor little thing.

Vague Rant · Jun 2, 2016

Jiro2 said:
Leaving out the NTSC makes about as much sense as having a MSX emulator which only supports American ROMs

This would only be true if the MSX was a dismal failure in Japan, an unbridled success in the US, and a supermajority of players experienced it through the USA-version machine and the hundreds of USA-exclusive games that were made for it.

The C64 certainly originates from the US, but there is no doubt whatsoever that the PAL version is the definitive one. NTSC support in a C64 emulator is at best a nice addition, it's far from a necessity.

Jiro2 · Jun 2, 2016

Vague Rant said:
This would only be true if the MSX was a dismal failure in Japan, an unbridled success in the US, and a supermajority of players experienced it through the USA-version machine and the hundreds of USA-exclusive games that were made for it.

The C64 was not a dismal failure in the US. It was the most popular computer.

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