Anything i should do before connecting windows 10 to the internet?

keven3477 · Jun 1, 2016

As I mentioned before, I bought a new laptop and it comes with windows 10 (I already don't like the taskbar and that programs are called apps) , is there anything anyone can recommend me to do before I connect the internet like how to block updates before I get a promp?

Uwabami · Jun 1, 2016

keven3477 said:
As I mentioned before, I bought a new laptop and it comes with windows 10 (I already don't like the taskbar and that programs are called apps) , is there anything anyone can recommend me to do before I connect the internet like how to block updates before I get a promp?

Well, depending on who made the laptop, it's probably loaded with crapware. Get the official ISO from Microsoft and reinstall a clean Windows 10. After that, use ShutUp: https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

Joom · Jun 1, 2016

Why would you block updates? Are you wanting security flaws on your system? I know a lot of scare hype gets thrown around about Windows 10, but I assure you that Microsoft could care less about spying on you.

ZDNet said:
I've been told that Windows 10 spies on me. Is that true?

Like all modern operating systems, Windows 10 uses the internet to provide services, and it collects reports of crashes and installation failures to diagnose problems. It also uses an anonymized ID to track which applications you install and how often you use them. Collectively, this information is calledtelemetry. The company doesn't collect your personal information except for the purposes disclosed in its privacy statement, it doesn't scan the files on your hard disk except to index them so you can search locally, and it doesn't have a keylogger.

As part of the "Windows as a Service" model, Microsoft has designed Windows 10 to share information for product improvement. In addition, Windows 10 integrates online services, such as Cortana and OneDrive, to store and sync personal settings and to build personalized dictionaries using speech and keyboard input.

All of these options can be adjusted using privacy settings in Windows 10. For more details, see:

Microsoft defends (and explains) its Windows 10 privacy settings

Microsoft updates Privacy Statement, addressing concerns from critics

Most accusations of "spying" are based on a misreading of Microsoft's privacy policy. Despite numerous attempts, none of Microsoft's critics on this issue have shown any proof that personal information is being collected in violation of the privacy terms or misused for purposes other than product improvement.

For background on the general issue, see the following series of posts:

Is Windows 10 telemetry a threat to your personal privacy?

No, Microsoft is not spying on you with Windows 10

Revealed! The crucial detail that Windows 10 privacy critics are missing

If you're worried about Windows 10 telemetry, you can open the Privacy tab in Windows 10 Settings, choose Feedback & Diagnostics, and adjust the Diagnostic & Usage Data setting to Basic.

Uwabami · Jun 1, 2016

Joom said:
Why would you block updates? Are you wanting security flaws on your system? I know a lot of scare hype gets thrown around about Windows 10, but I assure you that Microsoft could care less about spying on you.

Not sure about the updates either, but the standart settings won't allow disabeling everything of concern. The tool I posted worked well for me.

But it's definately good practice to format and reinstall a clean Windows on a new Laptop. There's always Bloatware and sometimes Spyware/Adware or even malicious Root Certificates (Lenovo did this).

Even better would be installing Linux [emoji1]

KSP · Jun 1, 2016

Uwabami said:
Not sure about the updates either, but the standart settings won't allow disabeling everything of concern. The tool I posted worked well for me.

But it's definately good practice to format and reinstall a clean Windows on a new Laptop. There's always Bloatware and sometimes Spyware/Adware or even malicious Root Certificates (Lenovo did this).

Even better would be installing Linux [emoji1]

Google disable Windows 10 auto update permanently via GPEdit and Regedit.

There is a way to disable auto update forever on Windows 10.

And Yes it is very very useful. There is old saying it ain't broke don't fix it. You don't know how often Windows updates have made my system run worse than they started out. Just to give you an example, I tried to manually update one of my Win 10 machines just last week, don't ask me why I did it, maybe curiosity. After the updates the system started to randomly lag when I was on any flash intensive site. Then I realized that MS added some crap Flash Player security addon, it was literally stalling my PC everytime I had IE running. I ended up uninstalling every single update manually. The moral of the story is IF IT AINT BROKE DONT UPDATE. 99% of the times an update will actually slow down your PC or cause random issues that was never there before.

I've never used windows auto updates any of my personal windows OSs. Always turn it off. Once I find that perfect sweet spot where everything runs perfectly, I will never update for the rest of that Windows lifespan.

Uwabami · Jun 1, 2016

KSP said:
Google disable Windows 10 auto update permanently via GPEdit and Regedit.

There is a way to disable auto update forever on Windows 10.

And Yes it is very very useful. There is old saying it ain't broke don't fix it. You don't know how often Windows updates have made my system run worse than they started out. Just to give you an example, I tried to manually update one of my Win 10 machines just last week, don't ask me why I did it, maybe curiosity. After the updates the system started to randomly lag when I was on any flash intensive site. Then I realized that MS added some crap Flash Player security addon, it was literally stalling my PC everytime I had IE running. I ended up uninstalling every single update manually. The moral of the story is IF IT AINT BROKE DONT UPDATE. 99% an update will actually slow down your PC or cause random issues that was never there before.

I never use windows auto updates any of my windows OSs. Always turn it off. Once I find that perfect sweet spot where everything runs perfectly, I will never update for the rest of that Windows lifespan.

Sorry, but this is the worst thing you could do. You're opening your system to viruses, trojans and drive-by hacks.

And why would you ever need to use IE besides for downloading Chrome or Firefox?

If you want a stable system, use a conservative Linux destribution like Debian/Ubuntu LTS. Not keeping you system up-to-date is dangerous.

I rarely use Windows besides for playing, only to update some .NET projects for some customers with a Microsoft fetish, but I never had any trouble with any updates.

KSP · Jun 1, 2016

Uwabami said:
Sorry, but this is the worst thing you could do. You're opening your system to viruses, trojans and drive-by hacks.

And why would you ever need to use IE besides for downloading Chrome or Firefox?

If you want a stable system, use a conservative Linux destribution like Debian/Ubuntu LTS. Not keeping you system up-to-date is dangerous.

I rarely use Windows besides for playing, only to update some .NET projects for some customers with a Microsoft fetish, but I never had any trouble with any updates.

That's what a strong anti-virus and strong spam protector is designed for not Windows.

I've been doing this since Windows XP. And have NEVER EVER once got a virus.

Only an idiot would count on Windows updates as a means to protect their PC from spam, virus, hacks, Trojans, etc. There are third party software for all those things that actually work. Updating windows all the time inevitably leads to system instability because every single OS is different and depending on your software and how you configure your OS can lead to an infinite amount of possible random bug scenarios that MS never intended. Inevitably you will come across random bugs and system stability issues from the actual updates than from keeping your system static.

My personal two cents always use Third Party software for all your security needs, and once your system is running perfect, don't ever update again. Simple everytime you update you create an infinite amount of possibilities for bugs, due to the infinite amount of OS/Software/Hardware combinations that Windows must deal with. At some point in time updating is doing you a disservice than a service.

Deleted User · Jun 1, 2016

After you connect your PC to the internet, if you're all wigged out about Microsoft "spying" on you, you could download SpyBot Anti-Beacon.

Uwabami · Jun 1, 2016

KSP said:
That's what a strong anti-virus and strong spam protector is designed for not Windows.

I've been doing this since Windows XP. And have NEVER EVER once got a virus.

Only an idiot would count on Windows updates as a means to protect their PC from spam, virus, hacks, Trojans, etc. There are third party software for all those things that actually work. Updating windows all the time inevitably leads to system instability because every single OS is different and depending on your software and how you configure your OS can lead to an infinite amount of possible random bug scenarios that MS never intended. Inevitably you will come across random bugs and system stability issues from the actual updates than from keeping your system static.

My personal two cents always use Third Party software for all your security needs, and once your system is running perfect, don't ever update again.

Well, you're free to do what you want with your property, but having a good Anti-Virus is not enough - check virustotal to see that every Anti-Virus app has a long list of Viruses they can't find.

Every single security expert recommends the polar opposite of what you suggested and if you have trouble after some updates, they might come from messing with the registry (can't believe there still is a registry in Windows 10) or "Clean-up Tools" to much.

Do as you please but please don't advertise this behaviour - this is how Bot-Nets are created. You never even notice being part of one...

Touko White · Jun 1, 2016

Yeah, uninstall Windows 10.
(I had to, sorry!)

Supster131 · Jun 1, 2016

KSP said:
There is old saying it ain't broke don't fix it.

If the world thought that way, we would be fucked.

driverdis · Jun 1, 2016

I would make sure you have a quality firewall between your computer and the Internet, I recommend any that can run pfSense.
https://store.pfsense.org/SG-2220/ This one is good for smaller home networks.

keven3477 · Jun 2, 2016

Just to clear some stuff up, i want to block updates for reasons like if eventualy microsoft does put something on their updates that no one will want or like KSP mentioned it brings more lag but i am willing to update later on if need be.
Also, judge me if you must but i actually like internet explorer.
And i know that microsoft spying is not true but i still want some sort of protection just in case.

driverdis · Jun 2, 2016

keven3477 said:
Just to clear some stuff up, i want to block updates for reasons like if eventualy microsoft does put something on their updates that no one will want or like KSP mentioned it brings more lag but i am willing to update later on if need be.
Also, judge me if you must but i actually like internet explorer.
And i know that microsoft spying is not true but i still want some sort of protection just in case.

if you have Windows 10 Pro, you can set Windows to defer updates.

Defer upgrades in Windows 10

Some Windows 10 editions let you defer upgrades to your PC. When you defer upgrades, new Windows features won’t be downloaded or installed for several months. Deferring upgrades doesn’t affect security updates. Note that deferring upgrades will prevent you from getting the latest Windows features as soon as they’re available.

keven3477 · Jun 2, 2016

but is there other stuff i should do other than update blockers?

Deleted member 333767 · Jun 2, 2016

Uninstall the update modules that cause Win 10 to phone home to microsoft and/or block microsoft CDNs in your router.

My advice would be downgrade to windows 7.

Joom · Jun 2, 2016

keven3477 said:
but is there other stuff i should do other than update blockers?

You shouldn't block updates regardless. They won't cause "lag". They're released for a reason and any sort of negativity is entirely hearsay. Like I've said a hundred times, Microsoft isn't spying on you or trying to push detrimental software on you. If you're this concerned, install a Linux that isn't Ubuntu because it has been proven to contain spyware, unlike Windows.

VinsCool · Jun 2, 2016

Joom said:
You shouldn't block updates regardless. They won't cause "lag". They're released for a reason and any sort of negativity is entirely hearsay. Like I've said a hundred times, Microsoft isn't spying on you or trying to push detrimental software on you. If you're this concerned, install a Linux that isn't Ubuntu because it has been proven to contain spyware, unlike Windows.

God I love these windows 10 threads.

Joom · Jun 2, 2016

VinsCool said:
God I love these windows 10 threads.

We saw the same with Windows 7 when it was first rolling out. In fact, 7 and 8.1 both collect the exact same data 10 does, but you see people recommending those over it just because people spout bullshit rumors. Ignorance is hilarious.

VinsCool · Jun 2, 2016

Joom said:
We saw the same with Windows 7 when it was first rolling out. In fact, 7 and 8.1 both collect the exact same data 10 does, but you see people recommending those over it just because people spout bullshit rumors. Ignorance is hilarious.

Yes I know, hahaha.

And they keep saying I am a delusionnal Windows 10 user, hahaha.

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