Piracy not a crime in European Union

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YEAH!

This is awesome news!

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Actually, after a more throurough reading, it's not a criminal act anymore (and therefore legal).
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Maybe a lawyer can explain things better.
 

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maybe i misunderstood the article, but i think it was just saying that piracy and other non-profit crime was exclude from this particular directive; not that it was now legal. wouldn't each country still have their own laws against piracy?
 

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Whoo... the idea of police bursting in through my door because I burned and played an ISO or played a ROM on my DS is less likely. Even though I have a massive CD wallet full of pirate stuff, I have never sold any for profit. Just loaned them to friends in return for their legit DVDs which I then copy...
 

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I'm not much of a lawyer to understand this stuff. However, somebody more experienced told me, that piracy won't be prosecuted anymore and since it's a directive of European Union, it automatically makes each country's invidual laws against piracy obsolete.

Don't ask me.
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Well at first I didnt think it mattered to me as I pay for most of the stuff I like (if its worth the money that is) but I do have a absolute ton of MP3's on my PC so looks like I wont be fined if I ever got caught
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It does say non-profit, but wouldnt NOT buying something give you profit if you've would've bought it if you couldnt download something?

Sorry if that sense dont make.
 

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According to this new directive, piracy with no personal profit (like downloading ROMs or ripping DVDs for your own use) will be decriminalized; it will still be illegal, but prosecuting kids for having a few ROMs is more trouble than it's worth. Anti-piracy efforts will be turned towards counterfeit CDs/DVDs, which are a greater loss for the industry, and towards people making profit (and I'm talking major profit) off bootleg software.


Bah, I don't care either way; I have to pay a piracy fee on any mass storage device I buy, which means I can use bootleg all I want. I'm still pissed at that. There are ads in the yellow pages advertising pirate games and software, yet I (well, everyone) have to pay a piracy fee.
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Huh. Can a mod change the topic title to something more appropriate?
In the heat of excitement, I wrote legal in it, which may not be correct, according to veho.
 

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Um...I'm no lawyer, but from what I make it, all this does is make for-profit piracy criminal in all EU countries. It just says that non-profit piracy isn't included in the directive, EU countries CAN still carry out their own criminal laws on this.

Am I wrong?

Also, this is a month old. If it did decriminalise piracy, methinks we'd have all heard of it by now in non-legalese
 

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That piracy is not a criminal offence doesn't mean that they can't sue you for compensation through civil law, though, does it?
Well, at least it sounds like sane legislation.
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It just says that non-profit piracy isn't included in the directive, EU countries CAN still carry out their own criminal laws on this.

No, it's say only profit-based piracy should be prosecuted ... read the fine print (I know that this last sentence carries a certain weight of hipocrisy...
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QUOTEand decided that criminal sanctions should only apply to those infringements deliberately carried out to obtain a commercial advantage.
 

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Wait, piracy was ever enforced here?
Enforcing piracy?
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GBATEMP: "Hey, you! What's that in your GBA?"
Kid: "Um, um, a... a... flashcard?"
GBATEMP: "No it isn't!"
Kid: "It's a flashcard, I swear!"
GBATEMP: "Let's see that. Hmmm, this isn't a flashcard, now is it?"
Kid: "Um..."
GBATEMP: "In fact, this is a legitimate, legal copy of Pokemon Ruby, isn't it?"
Kid: "No, no, I just put my M3 Lite in that so I could play it in my GBA SP..."
GBATEMP: "Don't give me that crap, kid. This is a legally bought cartrige. Don't you know we enforce piracy around here?"
Kid: "No, it's not even mine! I borrowed it! I got it for Christmas! From my Grandma!"
GBATEMP: "I'm not buying that! Let's go, sonny!"
Kid: "Noooo! I have a flashcard! I have ROMs at home! Tons of them!"
GBATEMP: "Save it for the rabbit spider monkey."
Kid: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!"


REMEMBER, KIDS
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WE ENFORCE PIRACY HERE
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(We'll allow software Ninjitsu, though
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