I am not talking about satanist in general, I am talking about a specific group called the church of satan that see satan as their god. The rest use it as a symbol or idea, but this group acknowledge they are serving the devil as an entity.
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The Church of Satan practices LaVeyen Satanism, which does not actually believe in Satan. As I previously mentioned, it's really a philosophy of individuality.
There is a religious group that actually worship the entity and group themselves under such brand. Their presence alarms me, but still I know not if it is necessary to react with force. Devil worshipping has been way earlier than Judaism, and as opposition of old religions and there is very few ways to counteract them.
One cannot just screw over everyone else for one's own gain. That was very selfish, yet it is happening very often.
They are not with the Church of Satan. The high priest of the Church of Satan has publicly rejected Theistic Satanism.
The fact that you are even considering to "react with force" is much more unsettling to me than the idea that there exists a subset of devil-worshippers.
I would admit my mentality could lead to dangerous results, and that is way I need to watch my own behaviours. Anyway like I have previously posted worshipping the devil cannot bring the kind of subject I would like if I was ever going corrupted.
I like these conversations because evil by humans is dirty and not pure. Pure evil is something inter dimensional beings and demons know about. It makes them behave in ways not even a psychopath could fathom. In fact, that is why when you hear of possessions, the demon is always talking shit. Its because its telling the truth about people. Pure evil doesn't lie; not really.
I'm not muslim, bro.
That comparison is extreme to say the least. Having the same religion as someone doesn't mean being associated with that person.
There are many christian murderes, it doesn't mean you condone murder if you're christian.
Honestly, though... I get that in Europe there has been some problems with muslims, so it's only natural for europeans to not be as friendly with them. But I would like to point out that... how to say this in a nice way? European countries like UK, France and Russia has kind of had a very shitty attitude with many countries in the world for some centuries now.
That includes intervention in Africa, South America and the Middle East. There's only so many times that Europe and the USA can act like they own the world without some form of backlash.
As an example, France and the UK have tried so many times to stop my country, Brazil, from growing its own industry that we only stopped being a rural country because World War II happened and we had the opportunity to grow our industry without european intervention. You might think I am exaggerating, but I kid you not. One of my country's president actually received a written threat from France demanding him to halt his plans for investing in our industry.
I am not defending the terrorists groups in any way, I sincerely hope they lose. What I'm saying is that had the government of these European countries + USA minded their own business who knows if we would have a more peaceful world today?
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ISIS Is just as bad as (If not worse than) the nazis, just now in modern times the press and government make it look WAY less scary then it actually is...
"Well God said himself he put in mankind a feeling giving them theres a GOD
All through the centuries people "worship" stars moon planets ETC everyone on earth is religious. God made us like that
You might be an atheist but there is something that you worship or believe! ALL humans on earth are religious"
First line. Much like you can not define a word using the word itself I do not think that plays.
People seeing patterns in things is a well documented concept in psychology. The classic example of this would be the Skinner box experiment where you can train animals (and people) to do things that have no bearing on the actual result because they "saw" a pattern.
Again I am not sure how you can make that assertion. Two things though -- biology has allowed for some considerable aberrations to happen, would it be possible for a person in your frame of logic to be born without it or is it beyond biology? Similarly atheism is generally defined as the lack of belief and if words want to be twisted then can we have a term to describe the lack of belief?
The others seem to be religious arguments for religious people. I suppose I could debate within that framework but I am not seeing the need other than to say there are those that would claim to believe and find your assertions to be completely false, others would agree. Such is the fun of things.
"You do realize unicorn isn't really a one horned horse its a extinct kind of rhino "
I saw the thing about the saola the other year ( http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/1...e_asian_unicorn_snapped_in_vietnamese_forest/ ), a creature some hold to have inspired the Chinese equivalent of the unicorn, however I have not really seen anything of note for the unicorn to be an ancient*, presumably now extinct, creature.
*troublesome word that depending upon when things came into folklore.
All through the centuries people "worship" stars moon planets ETC everyone on earth is religious. God made us like that
You might be an atheist but there is something that you worship or believe! ALL humans on earth are religious"
First line. Much like you can not define a word using the word itself I do not think that plays.
People seeing patterns in things is a well documented concept in psychology. The classic example of this would be the Skinner box experiment where you can train animals (and people) to do things that have no bearing on the actual result because they "saw" a pattern.
Again I am not sure how you can make that assertion. Two things though -- biology has allowed for some considerable aberrations to happen, would it be possible for a person in your frame of logic to be born without it or is it beyond biology? Similarly atheism is generally defined as the lack of belief and if words want to be twisted then can we have a term to describe the lack of belief?
The others seem to be religious arguments for religious people. I suppose I could debate within that framework but I am not seeing the need other than to say there are those that would claim to believe and find your assertions to be completely false, others would agree. Such is the fun of things.
"You do realize unicorn isn't really a one horned horse its a extinct kind of rhino "
I saw the thing about the saola the other year ( http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/1...e_asian_unicorn_snapped_in_vietnamese_forest/ ), a creature some hold to have inspired the Chinese equivalent of the unicorn, however I have not really seen anything of note for the unicorn to be an ancient*, presumably now extinct, creature.
*troublesome word that depending upon when things came into folklore.
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I never said what you quoted.. Stop lying your making me look bad
What? The one thing ALL branches and offsets of Christian faith has in common is the 10 commandments. Anybody who commits murder is NOT a Christian. Period. Calling yourself something or associating yourself with something doesn't make it so.
(the following are my own thoughts and not a reply to anyone in particular)
That being said, I was brought up in the Catholic faith, myself. I do value the morals I have gained from that upbringing, but ultimately I learned to think for myself and no not believe in a God. I do not claim to be a Catholic or a Christian. I'm more of an agnostic or perhaps a combination of agnostic and atheism. There are too many things wrong with every religion to accept any of them as fact. You believe in the Holy Bible? Ha! Which one? I see new bibles pop up every year, and the oldest writings from the bible known to exist were written more than 300 years after Jesus supposedly walked the earth. Don't even get me started on the number of times is has been revised.
There are ancient texts on walls of ruins that date far beyond that timeframe 2,500BC even, that depict accurate charts of the cosmos at a time when humans could not have possibly known the information without outside help, and construction techniques that would be difficult at best using 21st century technology. Bah. I'll stop there noting that I believe more in alien intervention more than I believe in a God. (and people at that time would have believed such advanced creatures to be "gods")
As for life after death? Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. Only transformed from one form to another. The potential energy from your body can be converted to light and heat if you are cremated. If buried, gasses are formed and released, and without a casket, plants or whatever else can make use of the nutrients to grow, etc, etc... so the final question there would be, is there a soul and if so, does it have energy, and where does that energy transfer to when your body gives out?
And my final thought is... what the hell is a thread like this doing on GBATEMP?
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Then you won't need to sell your Wii u, even if churches are not as rich.
Still why would the creator create heaven? It serves no purpose other than amplify his ego which unlike human the creator cannot really feel.
Or why would he use a flood to kill the humans instead of willing every human into non-existence. Such power was merely at the level of low gods in some mythology.
And some other religion do acknowledge the existence of the creator and worshipped him (the creator has appeared in many different brand of mythology), but still to be marked as devil worshippers.
Or if the bible was interpreted the wrong way for the sake of political gain. Like how Jesus's forgiveness was only on those who tried to kill him. Or how Jews was treated terribly by Catholics.
Unicorn resemble much more of a horse than rhino. And being imaginary does not mean not true, they just do not follow our physics or possess physical forms.
re·li·gious
rəˈlijəs/
adjective
relating to or believing in a religion.
re·li·gion
rəˈlijən/
noun
- the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
as an athiest I believe in no god or supernatural controlling force therefore i am not religious. Also your proof assumes god is real in order to prove his existence.
Hi everybody! Just a reminder:
- The religion is not the religious
- Any two people, even from the same religion, will rarely ever have the exact same beliefs (even within the same denomination or church or family)
- People can easily conflate personal self-worth with their religion
- The KKK is to christians as muslim extremism is to muslims
- People are completely responsible for their own actions, regardless of their religion
- There's probably no god(s), so try not to get too worried about it and just live your life
Why in the world would you say someone who belongs to X religion is responsible for Y action? Those directly responsible for supporting or promoting that behaviour should be pointed out, but unless they spread the teachings that directly influence that action(or did it themselves, obviously), how are they responsible?
Incidentally, violent behaviour based on religious zeal happens outside of organized religions and is also present in other strong belief structures. SJWs (Social Justice Warriors) are good examples of these crusades-without-religion. So it's not that religion is responsible for some people being violent jerks, it's just a way for some to have moral permission to be violent jerks.
- The religion is not the religious
- Any two people, even from the same religion, will rarely ever have the exact same beliefs (even within the same denomination or church or family)
- People can easily conflate personal self-worth with their religion
- The KKK is to christians as muslim extremism is to muslims
- People are completely responsible for their own actions, regardless of their religion
- There's probably no god(s), so try not to get too worried about it and just live your life
Why in the world would you say someone who belongs to X religion is responsible for Y action? Those directly responsible for supporting or promoting that behaviour should be pointed out, but unless they spread the teachings that directly influence that action(or did it themselves, obviously), how are they responsible?
Incidentally, violent behaviour based on religious zeal happens outside of organized religions and is also present in other strong belief structures. SJWs (Social Justice Warriors) are good examples of these crusades-without-religion. So it's not that religion is responsible for some people being violent jerks, it's just a way for some to have moral permission to be violent jerks.
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I never said I was an Atheist, note the word "Theistic," as in I believe in a literal beings. I am basically a Pagan at my core. I just don't believe in the Biblical God, there's a difference. Pagans are not inherently Christians because they believe in other Gods.
But I do not worship anything, I see them are guides and teachers on my journey. Worship is something completely different.
Like I said though, I am actually religious, but that does not equal the same "religious," as a Christian meaning. I have my believes that are not inherently Christian.
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