Hacking DSTWO+ vs Gateway 3ds

Which card is the best?

  • DSTWO+

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  • Gateway 3ds

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koyuki38

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Basically cfw are installed/uses emunand, not sysnand.

They might be installed over sysnand but that's clearly not their common usage.
 

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Because you have to modify your sysnand in order to use CFW, before you can make any CLEAN sysnand backup. That is why i and others will not risk messing up their system by installing CFW.
No, you don't need to modify anything on your sysnand. Cfw is just slightly more complicated (not in single launcher.dat), but everything else basically the same in installation (put all necessary files to sd vs launcher.dat to sd). Cfw is basically a gw which doesn't need redcart to run, and cannot use redcart after.
try to reach gateway menu on N3DS with using one single gateway or supercard dstwo plus card. good luck.
If you are talking the need of cn/oot. Yeah they're no longer needed.
You can reach gw menu easily with a single n3ds on exploitable fw. (you dont even need the redcart if it's just menu, and that's commonly used by cfw user to format emunand)
 
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To everyone who replied to me:

Yes, I heard about emunand, read through some guides. But.

I have N3DS XL, 9.0 sysnand, and one single Supercard DSTWO card (which was upgraded to plus, since i bought it this summer after the card was re-released). I do not have the Cubic Ninja game, I do not have Zelda Ocarina Of Time, I do not have Gateway card. I do not have Sky3DS card.

If I install 3DS plugin for DSTWO Plus, I can not enter into Gateway mode. It needs an entry point: Cubic Ninja or Zelda OoT.
I do not have them, I can not enter Gateway mode to set up emunand and backup my unmodified sysnand.

But I can install CFW, I know there is a guide to follow. 2 ways: CakesCFW or PastaCFW.

I am not familiar with CakesCFW, seems to be a complicated guide for me.
I would use PastaCFW which I understnd. But Pasta installs first a CIA installer + CIA Cubic Ninja game into the sysnand. This can be messed up, or I fear I mess up something. Then, AFTER i have Cubic Ninja CIA installed on sysnand, I can enter into Gateway mode and make a sysnand backup. Correct me if I am wrong, but this is the order I have to follow. I can not set up emunand first, I can not install the CIA-s or homebrew applications into emunand, because I can not reach Gateway menu to make an emunand and backup my sysnand first.

I am not familiar with RXtools either. But all I want is to access Gateway mode to make a CLEAN nand backup BEFORE I install any browserhaxx, HBL, CIA, MSET or anything that modify the system.

I did not read anywhere how can I enter into Gateway mode on Dstwo+ with CFW without touching my sysnand.
Or am I miss something??? If anyone have a simple way, please let me know.

Right now I think I have 3 options to solve my problem:
- buy a Cubic Ninja game, and use that as an entry point to enter into gateway mode
- buy a Sky3DS to use Cubic Ninja as a retail game on it
- wait for Supercard to make a Cubic Ninja plugin (if it ever happens)
 

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To everyone who replied to me:

Yes, I heard about emunand, read through some guides. But.

I have N3DS XL, 9.0 sysnand, and one single Supercard DSTWO card (which was upgraded to plus, since i bought it this summer after the card was re-released). I do not have the Cubic Ninja game, I do not have Zelda Ocarina Of Time, I do not have Gateway card. I do not have Sky3DS card.

If I install 3DS plugin for DSTWO Plus, I can not enter into Gateway mode. It needs an entry point: Cubic Ninja or Zelda OoT.
I do not have them, I can not enter Gateway mode to set up emunand and backup my unmodified sysnand.

But I can install CFW, I know there is a guide to follow. 2 ways: CakesCFW or PastaCFW.

I am not familiar with CakesCFW, seems to be a complicated guide for me.
I would use PastaCFW which I understnd. But Pasta installs first a CIA installer + CIA Cubic Ninja game into the sysnand. This can be messed up, or I fear I mess up something. Then, AFTER i have Cubic Ninja CIA installed on sysnand, I can enter into Gateway mode and make a sysnand backup. Correct me if I am wrong, but this is the order I have to follow. I can not set up emunand first, I can not install the CIA-s or homebrew applications into emunand, because I can not reach Gateway menu to make an emunand and backup my sysnand first.

I am not familiar with RXtools either. But all I want is to access Gateway mode to make a CLEAN nand backup BEFORE I install any browserhaxx, HBL, CIA, MSET or anything that modify the system.

I did not read anywhere how can I enter into Gateway mode on Dstwo+ with CFW without touching my sysnand.
Or am I miss something??? If anyone have a simple way, please let me know.

Right now I think I have 3 options to solve my problem:
- buy a Cubic Ninja game, and use that as an entry point to enter into gateway mode
- buy a Sky3DS to use Cubic Ninja as a retail game on it
- wait for Supercard to make a Cubic Ninja plugin (if it ever happens)
Browserhax?
 

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If i remember, i launched my first rxTools using rxTools browserhax on o3DS 9.2.

Does it work on n3ds too ?
Also i think that rxTools can create the emunand.
 

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- install thing to sysnand nand (modify sysnand)
- install thing to sysnand sdmc
- install thing to emunad nand (modify emunand)
- install thing to emunand sdmc
too lazy to explain the details, but all steps to get into gw menu without needing cn/oot do not involve install things to sysnand nand.
well you're using gateway launcher.dat with ds2+ which is more dangerous than installing cn.cia to sysnand sd anyway...
 
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no, SC updated the launcher.dat to support GW 3.5.1 WITHOUT BRICKING (which isnt confirmed by me, I dont have GW nor SCDSTWO+)
 

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no, SC updated the launcher.dat to support GW 3.5.1 WITHOUT BRICKING (which isnt confirmed by me, I dont have GW nor SCDSTWO+)
They can't have updated the launcher.dat, it is encrypted and last I heard they haven't written their own.

If there is brick code in it, it's still there.
 

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FINALLY got it!
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also i see this on there website

GW plugin Version 1.04 2015-11-24

1,Support Firmware GW ULTRA 3.0 - 3.5.1
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GW plugin Version 1.03 2015-11-07

1,Improved CARD2 save speed.
2,Fixed play 3ds games online error.
do you think its safe? i mean im not really using it for everyday use do i dont mind using the previous updaed
 

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"too lazy to explain the details, but all steps to get into gw menu without needing cn/oot do not involve install things to sysnand nand."


Please explain the main steps so I can look after it in detail. Thank you.
Is it dangerous because of possible brick code inside the latest launcher. dat? (I use the 3.4.1 version, which is not the latest)
Or because of the Supercard Gateway plugin/flashcard itself?
 
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It's dangerous because GW includes brick code on their own launcher on purpose, in order to brick dstwo+ 's users.

But as long as there is brick code, the risk 0 does not existe even for official GW users. See how bad was gw3.5, they might do a massive brick a day if they do a huge mistake on a futur release.
 
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No, i can use Pasta CFW on sky3ds and play CIAs on version under 9.3, dstwo+ does better than dstwo, but they are out of style now. if it released before sky3ds, i would think its the best
Wait, you actually bought a sky3DS and you're under 9.2? Why would anyone do such a thing?
 

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