Hacking (un)Official MicroSD Info List

Rayder · Feb 12, 2007

Transcend 2gig 80X miniSD (Taiwan) TS2GSDM80 S/N: 147800-1260 formatted in FAT w/64k clusters
Formats to 1.90 gig and currently has 5.81 megs free (19.1megs free when using 32k clusters and all the same data)

Tested on:
BYTECC U2CR-418/HUB(42-IN-1) 42-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader (Newegg.com)

Random Access: 1.1ms
CPU utilization: 0%
Average read: 4.9 MB/s
Burst Speed: 4.9 MB/s
Purchased from Newegg.com

Same card, but with a standard FAT format (default clusters, which I believe is 32k in WinXP):

Exact same results.

Hmm....this is quite a slow card for an 80X. Bummer. Must be that Taiwan thing.....

EDIT: TEST INVALID

My test is invalid, but not the fault of HDTach. I tested multiple cards (CF/SD/miniSD)....they all read the same thing except for "Random Access" times. I have determined that the card reader I am using (BYTECC U2CR-418/HUB(42-IN-1) 42-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader (Newegg.com)) limits the read speed.

id242 · Feb 12, 2007

Here are two links that might be of help for anyone reading this topic...
http://wiki.scorpei.com/index.php/R4_compa...h_Compatibility
And about half-way down/towards the bottom...
http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=43323

I have taken both those lists and compiled them into one (in alphabetical order)

microSD/TransFlash Compatibility:
Transflash Card / Notes / Rating (out of 10)
A-DATA Super 512MB No freezing in Castlevania PoR.
A-DATA 1GB (Taiwan) Freezes in Castlevania: PoR.
A-DATA 2GB (Standard Version) Same as Super version, freezes in Castlevania PoR but fine in dozens of other games tested.
A-DATA Super 1GB TAIWAN P/N 75ICTF0009; Froze in 0223 - AC:WW
A-DATA Super 2GB 80X Experiences freezing issue in Castlevania: PoR; no other problems experienced in a multitude of games tested. Media made in Taiwan.
ByteStor 1GB Cards from amazon.co.uk marked with "SD-C01G JAPAN".
Dane-Elec 1GB No problems until now, Castlevania not tested yet.
Dane-Electric 1GB (DCD-MSD1024) All games I tested on this card ran fine. Didn't notice any erroneous behavior. 8.5
EVERGREEN 512MB 60x(DNF-TSD512) unknown
Extrememory 1GB (Taiwan) Castlevania PoR runs perfectly. Little slowdowns in Tony Hawk Downhill Jam when opponents are on screen.
Fujifilm 512MB unknown
Garmin 128MB (010-10683-01) The card didn't do very well, was somewhat slow with backup I tested. Was not thoroughly tested. 6.5
Kingmax 256MB 60x unknown
Kingmax 512MB 60x unknown
Kingmax 512MB Red unknown
Kingmax 1GB unknown
Kingmax 1GB Black 66x unknown
Kingmax 2GB Black Freezes in Castlevania PoR.
Kingston 256MB Standard (Taiwan) Freezes in Castlevania PoR and Hotel Dusk: Room 215
Kingston 512MB Black 48x (Taiwan) unknown
Kingston 512MB Standard(Japan) X2 All TOSHIBA/KINGSTON memory with SD-C01G JAPAN as a serial will work 100% with all games including Castlevania PoR.
Kingston 512MB* (Japan) Eite Beat Agents runs perfect as well as Castlevania POR. This card caused me no problem at all: A pick. 9
Kingston 1GB (Japan) Elite Beat Agents runs perfectly as well as Castlevania POR. Yet to find a broken game with this card. A pick. 9
Kingston 1GB TF (OEM Toshiba) All TOSHIBA/KINGSTON memory with SD-C01G JAPAN as a serial will work 100% with all games including Castlevania PoR.
Kingston 1GB* (Taiwan) Many games won't boot (double white screens). Didn't undergo thorough testing. It is too slow!! SC DS will not support it! 7
Motorola 128MB 7x unknown
My Flash 1GB TF 60x unknown
PNY 1GB Castlevania POR Intro runs perfect, froze in game randomly a few times . Aside from it, other games run normally. 7.5
PQI 128MB Untested
PQI 1GB Freezes in Castlevania PoR. Slowdown in American Sk8land and Downhill Jam when opponents are on screen or when the game is changing music tracks.
PQI 1GB micro sd card Unknown; Works with M3 DS Simply
Ridata 1GB Freezes in Castlevania PoR.
Ridata 1GB Untested
Ridata 512MB unknown
Ridata Pro 1GB unknown
Sandisk 256MB Freezes in Castlevania PoR.
Sandisk 512MB Freezes in Castlevania PoR.
Sandisk 512MB (Normal). Laggy, Castlevania POR Intro, game suffers from serious issues, stuttering & crashes . Longer load times compared to other mediums & slow gaming experience. 4.5
SanDisk 1GB Rare freezes playing Castlevania PoR with FAT16/FAT32 formatted card (MIGHT be rom issue). Constantly freezes at teleport point at Tower of Death. Cycling amongst teleport points there freezes game.
Sandisk 1GB (Normal) Castlevania POR Intro runs perfect game suffers from hiccups, crashes. Other games run fine though laggy. 4.5
SanDisk 2GB Freezes in Castlevania PoR.
Sandisk 2GB (Normal) Castlevania POR Intro runs perfect game suffers from hiccups at teleporters, opening menus. Other games run fine. 4.5
Sandisk Ultra II 1GB Freezes in Castlevania PoR.
Sandisk Ultra II 1GB Castlevania POR Intro runs perfect game suffers from hiccups. 5.5
Sandisk Ultra II 2GB Working great so far, including Castlevania: PoR.
Toshiba 1GB (Taiwan) Castlevania POR runs with problems : crashes when opening menus, all other games work fine. 7
Toshiba 1GB TF 60x
Toshiba 1GB* (Japan) - (SD-C01G) All games I tested on this card ran admirably well. Sustains the comparison to G6 Lite in term of speed: A pick. 9
Toshiba SD-C01G-T 1GB Works fine except for slowdown in Tony Hawk Downhill Jam (as reported with all other cards too). Made in Japan.
Transcend 512MB unknown
Transcend 80x 512MB (133268-1340) Castlevania POR runs but freezes randomly in-game. Other games mostly work fine.Overall, it's not fast enough but does its job quite well.Decent. 6.5
Transcend 1GB Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin freezes at portals sometimes. Otherwise, great.

Sebokie · Feb 12, 2007

Microdia 1GB XtraPlus (MSDC-1GB-30D2)(E247TN01G-NOBB0638)
Made in China (box)
Random Access: 2.0ms
Average Read: 9.3MB/s
Burst Speed: 9.5MB/s
Note: purchased from Amazon.fr. Freezes although rarely on C

oR. Reader Sandisk Mobilemate.

jelbo · Feb 16, 2007

Kingston MicroSD 1GB
0652U24942U
SD-C01G JAPAN
SDC/1GB

Hama CardReaderMMC/SD 1.9C (USB 2.0)
Random Access: 0.8ms
Average read: 5.6MB/s

Why's my read speed half of what others manage to get?

/edit: Cardreader is slow and test results are unreliable. I retested with a PNY reader and got actual speeds, see some posts below.

magikalfly · Feb 16, 2007

It seems that a quality reader is needed. Just because it says USB 2.0 doesn't mean it'll be fast. I noticed a trend even for myself that my reader seems to be limiting me no matter what card I put in it. Mine is a Belkin USB 2.0 multi reader which I though was pretty good. I also tried in a 3.5" multidrive and seem to get the same speeds. After all this, it seems that the data here is circumstantial at best. Take what you will from this list. It should at least give you a sense of what other people are getting with various cards. I suppose the best info is in the little notes that each individual left.

It would actually be great if someone created a homebrew app that would measure the flash memory's speed. That way, it could run on any cart, supposing it use DLDI, and give uniform measurements. After all, it IS the cart's performance that matters in the end.

DeathMonk · Feb 16, 2007

QUOTE(id242 @ Feb 12 2007 said:
Here are two links that might be of help for anyone reading this topic...
http://wiki.scorpei.com/index.php/R4_compa...h_Compatibility
And about half-way down/towards the bottom...
http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=43323

I have taken both those lists and compiled them into one (in alphabetical order)

microSD/TransFlash Compatibility:
Transflash CardÂ / Notes / Rating (out of 10)
A-DATA Super 512MB No freezing in Castlevania PoR.
A-DATA 1GB (Taiwan) Freezes in Castlevania: PoR.
A-DATA 2GB (Standard Version) Same as Super version, freezes in Castlevania PoR but fine in dozens of other games tested.
A-DATA Super 1GB TAIWAN P/N 75ICTF0009; Froze in 0223 - AC:WW
A-DATA Super 2GB 80X Experiences freezing issue in Castlevania: PoR; no other problems experienced in a multitude of games tested. Media made in Taiwan.
ByteStor 1GB Cards from amazon.co.uk marked with "SD-C01G JAPAN".
Dane-Elec 1GB No problems until now, Castlevania not tested yet.
Dane-Electric 1GB (DCD-MSD1024) All games I tested on this card ran fine. Didn't notice any erroneous behavior. 8.5
EVERGREEN 512MB 60x(DNF-TSD512) unknown
Extrememory 1GB (Taiwan) Castlevania PoR runs perfectly. Little slowdowns in Tony Hawk Downhill Jam when opponents are on screen.
Fujifilm 512MB unknown
Garmin 128MB (010-10683-01) The card didn't do very well, was somewhat slow with backup I tested. Was not thoroughly tested. 6.5
Kingmax 256MB 60x unknown
Kingmax 512MB 60x unknown
Kingmax 512MB Red unknown
Kingmax 1GB unknown
Kingmax 1GB Black 66x unknown
Kingmax 2GB Black Freezes in Castlevania PoR.
Kingston 256MB Standard (Taiwan) Freezes in Castlevania PoR and Hotel Dusk: Room 215
Kingston 512MB Black 48x (Taiwan) unknown
Kingston 512MB Standard(Japan) X2 All TOSHIBA/KINGSTON memory with SD-C01G JAPAN as a serial will work 100% with all games including Castlevania PoR.
Kingston 512MB* (Japan) Eite Beat Agents runs perfect as well as Castlevania POR. This card caused me no problem at all: A pick. 9
Kingston 1GB (Japan) Elite Beat Agents runs perfectly as well as Castlevania POR. Yet to find a broken game with this card. A pick. 9
Kingston 1GB TF (OEM Toshiba) All TOSHIBA/KINGSTON memory with SD-C01G JAPAN as a serial will work 100% with all games including Castlevania PoR.
Kingston 1GB* (Taiwan) Many games won't boot (double white screens). Didn't undergo thorough testing. It is too slow!! SC DS will not support it! 7
Motorola 128MB 7x unknown
My Flash 1GB TF 60x unknown
PNY 1GB Castlevania POR Intro runs perfect, froze in game randomly a few times . Aside from it, other games run normally. 7.5
PQI 128MB Untested
PQI 1GB Freezes in Castlevania PoR. Slowdown in American Sk8land and Downhill Jam when opponents are on screen or when the game is changing music tracks.
PQI 1GB micro sd card Unknown; Works with M3 DS Simply
Ridata 1GB Freezes in Castlevania PoR.
Ridata 1GB Untested
Ridata 512MB unknown
Ridata Pro 1GB unknown
Sandisk 256MB Freezes in Castlevania PoR.
Sandisk 512MB Freezes in Castlevania PoR.
Sandisk 512MB (Normal). Laggy, Castlevania POR Intro, game suffers from serious issues, stuttering & crashes . Longer load times compared to other mediums & slow gaming experience. 4.5
SanDisk 1GB Rare freezes playing Castlevania PoR with FAT16/FAT32 formatted card (MIGHT be rom issue). Constantly freezes at teleport point at Tower of Death. Cycling amongst teleport points there freezes game.
Sandisk 1GB (Normal) Castlevania POR Intro runs perfect game suffers from hiccups, crashes. Other games run fine though laggy. 4.5
SanDisk 2GB Freezes in Castlevania PoR.
Sandisk 2GB (Normal) Castlevania POR Intro runs perfect game suffers from hiccups at teleporters, opening menus. Other games run fine. 4.5
Sandisk Ultra II 1GB Freezes in Castlevania PoR.
Sandisk Ultra II 1GB Castlevania POR Intro runs perfect game suffers from hiccups. 5.5
Sandisk Ultra II 2GB Working great so far, including Castlevania: PoR.
Toshiba 1GB (Taiwan) Castlevania POR runs with problems : crashes when opening menus, all other games work fine. 7
Toshiba 1GB TF 60xÂ
Toshiba 1GB* (Japan) - (SD-C01G) All games I tested on this card ran admirably well. Sustains the comparison to G6 Lite in term of speed: A pick. 9
Toshiba SD-C01G-T 1GB Works fine except for slowdown in Tony Hawk Downhill Jam (as reported with all other cards too). Made in Japan.
Transcend 512MB unknown
Transcend 80x 512MB (133268-1340) Castlevania POR runs but freezes randomly in-game. Other games mostly work fine.Overall, it's not fast enough but does its job quite well.Decent. 6.5
Transcend 1GB Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin freezes at portals sometimes. Otherwise, great.

Hard to read.. Also, my PNY is perfect in PoR.. Don't take one experience as fact.

jelbo · Feb 20, 2007

Got my hands on a tiny PNY USB2.0 MicroSD reader, and the results are amazing!

HDTach 3.0.1.0

Sandisk 1GB Ultra II
Made in Taiwan
Average read: 10,6MB/s
Random access: 0.9ms

Kingston 1GB *Japan*
0652U24942U
SD-C01G JAPAN
SDC/1GB
Average read: 10,4MB/s
Random access: 0.6ms

Both formatted as FAT16, default cluster size, filled with 967MB data.

jelbo · Feb 22, 2007

HDTach 3.0.1.0

Sandisk 512MB
Made in China
Average read: 10,6MB/s
Random access: 1.3ms

Pretty good.

comapro · Feb 23, 2007

I got a Taiwan Kingston 1GB now and I ran the benchmark again.

Kingston 1GB
Made in Taiwan
Random Access: 1.6ms
Average read: 10.8MB/s

Kingston 1GB
Made in Japan
Random Access: .7ms
Average read: 10.4MB/s

001100 · Feb 28, 2007

I was wondering for those that got Kingston made in Japan.
Did it come with 1 or 2 adaptors?

jelbo · Feb 28, 2007

Mine came with just 1 MicroSD adapter, and I guess all do, if you take a look at the packaging.

Flozem · Feb 28, 2007

Just bought a Dane-Elec card at Dixons here in the Netherlands. It certainly looks like they sell Micro-SD from the same batches the Japan Kingston cards came from: the serial number at least shows a very similar coding to the Japan Kingston cards in this topic.

My serial:
0649u11268u
CO1G Japan

My R4 and cardreader haven't arrived yet, but expect a test report by the end of this week.

Price with € 17,99 is a little steep to the cards sold on http://www.ervavli.nl/ . But Dane-Elec at Dixons (provided the test results are good) is the next best thing when it comes to availability of the speedy Japan micro SD cards outside of webshops.

Flozem · Mar 2, 2007

Heh - I just tried the test with my black usb reader that came with the R4. The results were less than satisfactory. However I blame it to my pc, being a 6-year-old one with usb 1.0 ports.

Castlevania PoR works perfectly though, making me stand with the conclusion that the Dane-Elec card of my previous post is comparable if not the same as Kingston.

jelbo · Mar 2, 2007

QUOTE(Flozem @ Mar 2 2007 said:
Heh - I just tried the test with my black usb reader that came with the R4. The results were less than satisfactory. However I blame it to my pc, being a 6-year-old one with usb 1.0 ports.

Castlevania PoR works perfectly though, making me stand with the conclusion that the Dane-Elec card of my previous post is comparable if not the same as Kingston.

The shipped reader sucks for doing accurate tests anyway, I get half the speed of my other reader, while both are USB2.0.

WigWrm · May 6, 2007

Using "Unknown" Card Reader. Supplied with R4DS. Silver Metal Housing.
Sandisk 1GB (Taiwan)
Random Access is 1.3ms
Burst is 9.9 MB/s
Avg Read is 9.8 MB/s

WigWrm · May 8, 2007

POR froze previously on card mentioned above. If I waited a few seconds around the portals they would work for awhile but still would freeze at any given moment.

New card is PNY 1GB Japan
Read speed 10.5 MB/s
Burst is 10.6 MB/s
Random Access Time 0.7 m/s

POR works without a hitch. Intro movie seems sped up (around spiraling frame scene).

GBA_Temper · May 8, 2007

Humm...Sticky Please??

GBA_Temper · May 8, 2007

My tested Cards....

#1)Kingston 1GB MicroSd
Kingston 1GB [GBA_Temper]
Made in CHINA
Random Access:6.0ms
Average Read:1.0MB/s
Notes:I am using a R4 2.0 MicroSD Reader with a USB Hub(4 Slots)(Non HighSpeed)..
*Materials:
R4 2.0 MicroSD Reader
USB Hub(4 Slots)(Non HighSpeed)

#1)Kingston 1GB Micro Sd/with adapter EXTRA RESEARCH
Kingston 1GB [GBA_Temper]
Made in CHINA
Random Access:SAME

Average Read:SAME

Notes:I am using a USB 2.0 SD Reader/Writer(Dazzle) With the MicroSD Card Adapter..
*Materials:
USB 2.0 SD Card Reader/Writer(Dazzle)
MicroSD Card Adapter

#2)SanDisk 1GB SD Card
Sandisk 1GB [GBA_Temper]
Made in CHINA
Random Access:SAME

Average Read:SAME

Notes:I am using a USB 2.0 SD Reader/Writer(Dazzle) With the SanDisk SD..
*Materials*
USB 2.0 SD Card Reader/Writer(Dazzle)

Code:

*PROBLEM*
The interface type say 1.1!!!(Dazzle high speed 2.0 SD Card Reader/Writer) I will repost once I can figure what is the problem

4saken · May 9, 2007

Perhaps your USB ports are actually not USB2.0

GBA_Temper · May 9, 2007

QUOTE(4saken @ May 8 2007 said:
Perhaps your USB ports are actually not USB2.0

Wrong...Since I have a old CPU (GAMING PC-Motherboard died) here is the stats

OS:MS Xp Pro (Just upgraded from win2k)
Ram:256MB (Just upgraded)
Video Card: ATI Technologies Inc. 3D RAGE IIC AGP
Processor: Intel Pentium ll 399MHz
HD:C Drive:3.99GB
HD:E Drive:2.37GB(System Restore)
DVD/CD (Rw)
2USB Ports: 1.1

So I know it is the system usb ports that is slow...

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