Hacking Trying to get e-shop games working on Sky3DS

Foxi4 · Apr 17, 2015

Penny Morecash said:
The funny thing is I have never used YouTube before, strangely I think it'll take about the same time to learn that as it did to patch the SIG code.

I bet you all think I'm lying about that too!

The difference between me and you all is that I bothered to use IDA and GCC.
Oh and I don't slag people off within a couple of days... I wait over a month before asking why we haven't seen anything from KARL.

Everyone's just asking for believable evidence. We'd all be very happy if you got it to work, we just have issues believing in miracles due to the number of trolls on the net these days.

I can make magical templates too, that doesn't mean the game will work.

jrebey · Apr 17, 2015

Penny Morecash said:
The difference between me and you all is that I bothered to use IDA and GCC.

I don't think it's a matter of bothering.. it's more a lack of understanding. There are far too many takers than makers here on these forums. Sadly, I'm one of them. I can only do high-level coding ... asm looks like greek to me though I understand what it actually is.

That said, the trend seems to have been people coming to the forums, making all sorts of claims, and not following through so there is a high level of skepticism. So what ends up happening is those that are actually capable of doing something (as you have noticed firsthand) are turned off from releasing what they've accomplished and they keep it all private.

Foxi4 · Apr 17, 2015

jrebey said:
I don't think it's a matter of bothering.. it's more a lack of understanding. There are far too many takers than makers here on these forums. Sadly, I'm one of them. I can only do high-level coding ... asm looks like greek to me though I understand what it actually is.

That said, the trend seems to have been people coming to the forums, making all sorts of claims, and not following through so there is a high level of skepticism. So what ends up happening is those that are actually capable of doing something (as you have noticed firsthand) are turned off from releasing what they've accomplished and they keep it all private.

So far the evidence provided is replicable within about 2 minutes (see thumbnail above), less if you use Sky Army Knife *shameless plug*. I'd say the skepticism is pretty well-grounded unless I see something more convincing.

jrebey · Apr 17, 2015

Foxi4 said:
So far the evidence provided is replicable within about 2 minutes (see thumbnail above), less if you use Sky Army Knife *shameless plug*. I'd say the skepticism is pretty well-grounded unless I see something more convincing.

Well I did post it with the caveat that I had no idea how complicated it was hoping someone would enlighten me

Oishikatta · Apr 17, 2015

She's real, looks like you guys did a pretty good job making sure she'll never release anything though - as usual. Congratulations.

mary1517 · Apr 17, 2015

Still not convinced.
I will honestly apologize to her if this turn out to be something legit. But for now, what Foxy4 said ^
You don't have to use youtube. Just record it with your phone and put it on dropbox or somewhere to download

Foxi4 · Apr 17, 2015

Oishikatta said:
She's real, looks like you guys did a pretty good job making sure she'll never release anything though - as usual. Congratulations.

I can't vouch for everyone, but I definitely don't intend to offend - I even posted some pointers. All I want is some evidence to back up the claims, really - all the power to Miss Penny regarding her work, I just reserve my right to be skeptical until I see something convincing.

gamesquest1 · Apr 17, 2015

as much as people are naturally skeptical after hearing 101 "oh i just made my cfw, here is some very inconclusive evidence" as there are people licking arse of anyone who mentions they have a rom loader.....up until they realise its not real at which point all hell breaks loose to the point where those same people are 100 times more offensive than any of the people who simply said " im not convinced, and the poor attempt a "proof" is even more suspicious"

its the same story pretty much every time
person A "i want to do this"
person B "yeah its kind of difficult i doubt you can do it but here is a lead"
person C "OI! STFU person B, if you dare suggest they cant do it we get no rom loader and its your fault :cry:

"

.....because ofc we should all have blind faith in random people on the internet who make claims with zero proof, don't mind me while i go claim my Nigerian lottery winnings

in actual fact its person C being more offensive suggesting that the OP is such a cry baby narcissist that they cant handle anyone doubting their un-substantiated claims and would throw a wobbler and run away rather than you know.....just proving it and being able to get a superiority boost from it all

Penny Morecash · Apr 17, 2015

Ra1d said:
Yeah, just get a Kernel access and you're set, EZ.

Ra1d clearly knows how easy it is!

.:drk_drgn:. said:
Are you serious?

.:drk_drgn:. clearly doubts everyone...page one!

Foxi4 said:
It's not going to work on Sky3DS, your best bets are GW or a custom firmware with the capacity to install *.CIA's.

Foxi4 has no idea about how GW works

osm70 said:
Even if you convert it to .3ds, sky3ds wil not run it. You will not be able to even write it on your card, because it is not in the template file.

osm70 doesn't know the power of software and reading

The Real Jdbye said:
They don't work because not being 1:1 they're not signed/encrypted correctly.

The Real Jdbye - Oh but they are encrypted correctly!

NintendoFan3DS said:
from 0 knowledge to first cfw with cia support without gateway..... , im sorry but lots of people didnt done that yet, they work every day in teams and didnt done that, and you think you can do it on your own, no way

NintendoFan3DS - not once did I mention CFW!

Loaffy said:
Confirmed troll.

Loaffy - What when...

mary1517 said:
Still not convinced.
I will honestly apologize to her if this turn out to be something legit

mary1517 - So until I prove myself I'm classed as a liar! And only then will you say 'Penny we're really sorry, we as a community could really do with your help!'

Just had to get that off my chest!!

Kohmei · Apr 17, 2015

Penny Morecash said:
So until I prove myself I'm classed as a liar!

Extraordinary claims require...

No, no one is asking for extraordinary evidence here. You've developed something most people with a Sky3DS would want, with help from the community (although considering someone as knowledgeable and capable as yourself, I have no idea what knowledge you gained from making this thread), so why wouldn't you share that exploit?

All I see is attention seeking. You've made a thread you didn't need, and now you won't share something in the thread because no one believed you. Now it's our fault of course. Bravo, really. This thread would have had 4 replies tops if you had a green or blue avatar, but I'm sure you know that

plasma · Apr 17, 2015

Could you just not show a proof of content? I am sure that would shut 90% of people in this thread.

Foxi4 · Apr 17, 2015

Penny Morecash said:
*Railing on everyone in the thread* Just had to get that off my chest!!

Okay. I was more than willing to provide additional pointers to you, but I guess you don't need them from someone who "doesn't know how GW works" so I'll just leave you to it - you seem to have this under control. When you have some conclusive evidence that I won't be able to replicate by making a fake template, shoot me up with a PM. Best of luck in your endeavour.

As it was said above, we're not asking for anything extraordinary, just proof. There's no proof that there's a flying hamster orbiting around the solar system and chomping on super novas, that's why we don't believe that there is one out there and saying that "there sure is" is not convincing. What you're saying goes against the status quo and you saying it isn't enough to convince anyone that you're not just a troll. We're not calling you a liar as you claim, we're just reserving judgement until you show some evidence of your claims.

Penny Morecash · Apr 17, 2015

Kohmei said:
Extraordinary claims require...

No, no one is asking for extraordinary evidence here. You've developed something most people with a Sky3DS would want, with help from the community (although considering someone as knowledgeable and capable as yourself, I have no idea what knowledge you gained from making this thread), so why wouldn't you share that exploit?

All I see is attention seeking. You've made a thread you didn't need, and now you won't share something in the thread because no one believed you. Now it's our fault of course. Bravo, really. This thread would have had 4 replies tops if you had a green or blue avatar, but I'm sure you know that

I asked in the first place as I thought I would get some good knowledge about where to find the code for the SIG's and cartridge encryption, I thought it would save me time...
It clearly didn't as I only got two people giving me anything usable.
I decided to take it to the next level myself and look at the 3DBrew site... here I found good info about where the SIG's would be (it tells you exactly what to look for).
I found once I had patched the SIG function (using one single line of code to change a 16bit thumb instruction from MOV R0,0 to MOV r0,1) that the rest of the e-shop content was exactly the same as cartridge data.
The only thing to do next was get the Sky3DS card to work.
I did this by waiting for the MAGIC missing 16 bytes nobody knows about in the template file to show up in memory when I used OOT. I then knew exactly where to stop the code and let the 3DS generate the 16 bytes needed for e-shop game and add them to the template file.
I then used one extra patch (a 16bit NOP instruction) to make the the kernel go in the right direction when it decided it was an e-shop game or a cartridge.

All sounds pretty easy, that's because it was!

Loaffy · Apr 17, 2015

Penny Morecash said:
Loaffy - What when...

First of all I was half joking, just because everyone loves shovel knight and you would pretty much have to be trolling to call it a rubbish game. Since you are playing the "I'm 48 and never been on the internet" card I'll mention that "confirmed troll" is a common response on internet forums, not always used seriously.

but to be more clear, you said earlier in the thread;

Penny Morecash said:
I haven't seen Shovel Knight, I'll have to read a few more reviews.

So it seems like you looked at reviews of it before "getting it to work on your sky3DS". Why then would you have not already known it was "emulated 8 bit rubbish" that you clearly must not be interested in, and why then did you even bother "getting it to work"?

And honestly, even if you got every single eShop game to work on sky3DS I wouldn't care - I don't own one! (though I guess I'd feel a little bad for other sky3DS owners, but then again you can already pirate the whole game cart library so who really needs free eShop games too?)

But your posts in the karl3DS thread and in this one show that you have some difficulties communicating with people, at least over the internet, so honestly I don't think any fault lies in our side of the court since any unknown developer should know they have to prove themselves in this scene. If you did figure things out, enjoy your pirated eShop games and 5 minutes of fame, otherwise enjoy whatever else you have in life.

Penny Morecash · Apr 17, 2015

Now this tread has turned into a joke right!
Please close this thread...

plasma · Apr 17, 2015

Penny Morecash said:
Now this tread has turned into a joke right!
Please close this thread...

This thread was a joke anyway seeing as you won't provide proof...

I am not doubting your abilities, but when someone comes on the scene, with 0 knowledge about the 3DS, then a day or 2 later says they made a cfw or whatever, its pretty damn hard to believe.

gamesquest1 · Apr 18, 2015

i wonder why people who make claims never want to post any proof?........instead of getting all upset, 2 minute video showing you booting up the console running your code and launching eshop games from sky3ds and everyone would be like "oh ok maybe its real" if you can figure out how to hack the 3ds in what? 1 ½ days surely you can figure out how youtube works in say 5 minutes?....do you HAVE to prove yourself? no ofc not, but will people take your word for it?......the odd one or 2 that are still waiting for their bank transfer from Nigeria, but most people will not without any proof except for a screenshot of sky3ds disk writer saying "transferring".....why would you even do that twice? test game, it works , transfer again as "proof" when anyone can transfer it to the card, but that doesn't make it playable

Deleted member 333767 · Apr 18, 2015

30 seconds to film .3GP video. 2 minutes to transfer to PC. 1 minute for youtube account creation, 5 minutes to upload the vid, and 2 minutes to post link to GBATEMP. Were talking 10 minutes give or take, of work to shut everyone up and finally say "i told you so!"

Wouldn't that be far more satisfying than a circular argument with the naysayers on a forum? But that's none of my business *insert pic of keemit the frog sipping tea here*

NintendoFan3DS · Apr 18, 2015

Penny Morecash said:
Now this tread has turned into a joke right!
Please close this thread...

ofc u did it, ofc u can open games with sky3ds

also im satoru iwata, congratz, now i will do new console, i name it new 3dsi 2 xl, maybe you not hack this as fast as u did this now.

jrebey · Apr 18, 2015

gamesquest1 said:
i wonder why people who make claims never want to post any proof?........instead of getting all upset, 2 minute video showing you booting up the console running your code and launching eshop games from sky3ds and everyone would be like "oh ok maybe its real" if you can figure out how to hack the 3ds in what? 1 ½ days surely you can figure out how youtube works in say 5 minutes?....do you HAVE to prove yourself? no ofc not, but will people take your word for it?......the odd one or 2 that are still waiting for their bank transfer from Nigeria, but most people will not without any proof except for a screenshot of sky3ds disk writer saying "transferring".....why would you even do that twice? test game, it works , transfer again as "proof" when anyone can transfer it to the card, but that doesn't make it playable

For the record, I posted the screenshot from my computer not Penny. Then Fox posted it from his to show that creating the template wasn't that hard. I didn't think it was anything too exciting to merit anything more than the screenshot.

I'm interested to see if she actually got it working or she's just trolling us. Could go either way at this point.

Even if she didn't have YouTube or know how to use it. She can send the exploit itself to Fox or some other trusted member as proof. Or just post the instructions on how to do it yourself.

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