Hacking Updating retail cart game with .CIA?

Lucifer666 · Apr 5, 2015

I've got a retail copy of Pokémon X which I play on EmuNAND classic, now the issue is I can't go online since there's the 1.4 update for Pokemon X which I don't have and getting it would require me to go to the eShop which is impossible since I'm on 9.5

So I thought of getting the 1.4 update as a .CIA and I did, I went into Gateway mode, opened up bigbluemenu and installed it, went back to classic mode and it won't work, I'm still prompted to update

now one of the users on that site that must not be named said that it only works with .3ds/CIA (non-legit) copies of the game in Gateway mode, cos unsigned/illegal CIAs won't work on emuNAND classic. I get that, but why wouldn't these updates be legit? If they were ripped straight from the eShop then they should be legit, right?

ok so my only other option right now is to dump my cart and play it in gateway mode. Supposing I did this, how would I transfer the save? I know I need to put it on my 3DS's SD card and name it titleid.sav, but are there any steps I need to take to properly convert it from a retail save to a gateway one?

Thanks

tarovisions · Apr 5, 2015

Is this a new 3ds? If it's not then you could backup emunand, update to 9.6 emunand and use rxtools to get the update, make a cia out of it yourself etc., then flashback your emunand backup.

morvoran · Apr 5, 2015

Lucifer666 said:
now one of the users on that site that must not be named said that it only works with .3ds/CIA (non-legit) copies of the game in Gateway mode, cos unsigned/illegal CIAs won't work on emuNAND classic. I get that, but why wouldn't these updates be legit? If they were ripped straight from the eShop then they should be legit, right?

ok so my only other option right now is to dump my cart and play it in gateway mode. Supposing I did this, how would I transfer the save? I know I need to put it on my 3DS's SD card and name it titleid.sav, but are there any steps I need to take to properly convert it from a retail save to a gateway one?

Thanks

Update cia's are just like eshop game cia's, they are not legit/clean files like preinstalled games are. Preinstalled games are not linked to a specific console/NNID at the time of installation in the factory. This is why they are legit. Update cia's can not be made legit/clean as they are downloaded from the eshop and signed to the specific console they are downloaded on. The updates are not ripped from the eshop as you need a valid ticket to download and convert them to a cia. This is why they only work in gateway mode.

This means the only 2 options you have are 1. what you said about dumping your cart or 2. what tarovisions said and use rxtools to update to 9.6 and get the update off of the eshop yourself. Personally, I would go with option 1 as it is the safest option unless you are comfortable with taking a chance on accidentally updating your sysnand.

Here is the link to the tutorial on moving saves from cart to .3ds if you decide to go that route - http://gbatemp.net/threads/tutorial...v-to-eshop-3ds-3dz-with-savedatafiler.380246/

Varia · Apr 5, 2015

Have you tried with linked nands? I think I
I read somewhere that it should work if both emunand and systemnand are linked.

By the way, dumping won't help, seeing as Pokemon uses the 6.x save encryption, so Gateway won't be able to read it.

Lucifer666 · Apr 5, 2015

Varia said:
Have you tried with linked nands? I think I
I read somewhere that it should work if both emunand and systemnand are linked.

By the way, dumping won't help, seeing as Pokemon uses the 6.x save encryption, so Gateway won't be able to read it.

The issue isn't that it's not working on sysnand, it's that it's not working on emuNAND classic. so whether sys and emu are linked or not makes no difference

but oh yeah, I didn't think about the save encryption. thanks

EDIT: I went ahead and tried out rxTools and it worked, I can now launch emunand in 9.6 and update the game to play online, thanks so much everyone

Uncle_Iroh · Apr 5, 2015

Lucifer666 said:
The issue isn't that it's not working on sysnand, it's that it's not working on emuNAND classic. so whether sys and emu are linked or not makes no difference

but oh yeah, I didn't think about the save encryption. thanks

EDIT: I went ahead and tried out rxTools and it worked, I can now launch emunand in 9.6 and update the game to play online, thanks so much everyone

I'm in a similar position. Could you post a tutorial, or at least the steps you took?

thorasgar · Apr 5, 2015

morvoran said:
Update cia's are just like eshop game cia's, they are not legit/clean files like preinstalled games are. Preinstalled games are not linked to a specific console/NNID at the time of installation in the factory. This is why they are legit. Update cia's can not be made legit/clean as they are downloaded from the eshop and signed to the specific console they are downloaded on. The updates are not ripped from the eshop as you need a valid ticket to download and convert them to a cia. This is why they only work in gateway mode.

This means the only 2 options you have are 1. what you said about dumping your cart or 2. what tarovisions said and use rxtools to update to 9.6 and get the update off of the eshop yourself. Personally, I would go with option 1 as it is the safest option unless you are comfortable with taking a chance on accidentally updating your sysnand.

Here is the link to the tutorial on moving saves from cart to .3ds if you decide to go that route - http://gbatemp.net/threads/tutorial...v-to-eshop-3ds-3dz-with-savedatafiler.380246/

That tutorial is for card 1 games. Pokemon is card 2. I have not messed with card 2 saves but it is a different animal. M

Lucifer666 · Apr 5, 2015

tintin.92 said:
I'm in a similar position. Could you post a tutorial, or at least the steps you took?

Sure thing, though just as a word of warning you'll need access to a Windows PC (had to borrow my mom's cos I'm a mac user lol). Also this doesn't work for N3DS

All righty here's what I did

Backup your current emuNAND using EmuNAND tool and save it somewhere
Head on over to the rxtools site's download section and download the latest version
Extract the downloaded file
Run cdn_firm.exe and it should download a firmware.bin file automatically
Place rxTools.dat on the root of your SD card
On your 3DS go to launch.rxtools.net
After launching the exploit hit 'A' to skip the warning message, then hit RxMode, this launches EmuNAND
Feel free to update EmuNAND to 9.6 and grab the game update from the eShop
You can play your game online now

Launching emuNAND from RxTools though means no piracy (it's basically classic mode), so whenever you want to go back to Gateway just restore your EmuNAND backup that you made in the first step. (You still keep the game update after you do this though

)

Uncle_Iroh · Apr 11, 2015

Lucifer666 said:
Sure thing, though just as a word of warning you'll need access to a Windows PC (had to borrow my mom's cos I'm a mac user lol). Also this doesn't work for N3DS

All righty here's what I did

Backup your current emuNAND using EmuNAND tool and save it somewhere

Head on over to the rxtools site's download section and download the latest version

Extract the downloaded file

Run cdn_firm.exe and it should download a firmware.bin file automatically

Place rxTools.dat on the root of your SD card

On your 3DS go to launch.rxtools.net

After launching the exploit hit 'A' to skip the warning message, then hit RxMode, this launches EmuNAND

Feel free to update EmuNAND to 9.6 and grab the game update from the eShop

You can play your game online now

Launching emuNAND from RxTools though means no piracy (it's basically classic mode), so whenever you want to go back to Gateway just restore your EmuNAND backup that you made in the first step. (You still keep the game update after you do this though )

Thanks, but I'm not quite clear. What exactly is the firmware.bin used for?

Lucifer666 · Apr 11, 2015

tintin.92 said:
Thanks, but I'm not quite clear. What exactly is the firmware.bin used for?

To be honest I'm not entirely sure, but what I do know is that RxMode/emuNAND will not launch without it, I've tried and gotten an error

Uncle_Iroh · Apr 11, 2015

Lucifer666 said:
To be honest I'm not entirely sure, but what I do know is that RxMode/emuNAND will not launch without it, I've tried and gotten an error

I mean, you've asked me to download it, but not do anything with it. Should I place it on the SD card?

Lucifer666 · Apr 11, 2015

tintin.92 said:
I mean, you've asked me to download it, but not do anything with it. Should I place it on the SD card?

Oh shoot
Sorry, yeah, you're meant to copy it along with rxtools.dat, my bad

Uncle_Iroh · Apr 12, 2015

Lucifer666 said:
Oh shoot
Sorry, yeah, you're meant to copy it along with rxtools.dat, my bad

I hate to ask but... is it possible you've missed something else?

I'm sorry, I just wanna be extra careful.

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