Hacking Is it risky to buy a SKY3DS flashcard before knowing the firmware of the N3DS (Europe release)?

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Hey guys, listen:

sky3ds DOES NOT use any xploit, it CANNOT be blocked through a software patch. I'm a real dev and I'm bored of read about that conversation with that fake dev (why people is so stupid to believe a copy&paste conversation? THERE ARE NO PROOFS). If this fake "dev" was right, Sky3ds would have been blocked long time ago. Even gateway devs would have leaked the "magic line" that blocks the Sky3DS. -_-
However It CAN be blocked by hardware.
But don't worry, current consoles don't have any hardware upgrade to block Sky3DS, maybe in the future they will.
Why do you have to believe me? Because next 3DS firmware won't block Sky3DS, this is a fact. Anyway want to bet? I love bets.
 

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Hey guys, listen:

sky3ds DOES NOT use any xploit, it CANNOT be blocked through a software patch. I'm a real dev and I'm bored of read about that conversation with that fake dev (why people is so stupid to believe a copy&paste conversation? THERE ARE NO PROOFS). If this fake "dev" was right, Sky3ds would have been blocked long time ago. Even gateway devs would have leaked the "magic line" that blocks the Sky3DS. -_-
However It CAN be blocked by hardware.
But don't worry, current consoles don't have any hardware upgrade to block Sky3DS, maybe in the future they will.
Why do you have to believe me? Because next 3DS firmware won't block Sky3DS, this is a fact. Anyway want to bet? I love bets.

You're a real dev? care to elaborate and explain how exactly the Sky3DS works?
 
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Nintendo is clearly bent on blocking everything heck they're probably reading this topic right now so if they didn't block anything as of now it's because they still don't know how which doesn't mean they won't come up with a solution in the future.
 

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Nintendo is clearly bent on blocking everything heck they're probably reading this topic right now so if they didn't block anything as of now it's because they still don't know how which doesn't mean they won't come up with a solution in the future.


ROFLMAO...........oh brother........
 
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Hey guys, listen:

sky3ds DOES NOT use any xploit, it CANNOT be blocked through a software patch. I'm a real dev and I'm bored of read about that conversation with that fake dev (why people is so stupid to believe a copy&paste conversation? THERE ARE NO PROOFS). If this fake "dev" was right, Sky3ds would have been blocked long time ago. Even gateway devs would have leaked the "magic line" that blocks the Sky3DS. -_-
However It CAN be blocked by hardware.
But don't worry, current consoles don't have any hardware upgrade to block Sky3DS, maybe in the future they will.
Why do you have to believe me? Because next 3DS firmware won't block Sky3DS, this is a fact. Anyway want to bet? I love bets.


Its neither exploit or hardware emulation, its a bunch of monkeys inside the card doing all the work.

It doesn't matter what you say. These idiots don't understand exploit or emulation, they will directly stick with it being exploit until proven guilty.
 

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Hey guys, listen:

sky3ds DOES NOT use any xploit, it CANNOT be blocked through a software patch. I'm a real dev and I'm bored of read about that conversation with that fake dev (why people is so stupid to believe a copy&paste conversation? THERE ARE NO PROOFS). If this fake "dev" was right, Sky3ds would have been blocked long time ago. Even gateway devs would have leaked the "magic line" that blocks the Sky3DS. -_-
However It CAN be blocked by hardware.
But don't worry, current consoles don't have any hardware upgrade to block Sky3DS, maybe in the future they will.
Why do you have to believe me? Because next 3DS firmware won't block Sky3DS, this is a fact. Anyway want to bet? I love bets.
Yes, it is that simple and can be blocked, Nintendo is just terrible at security, we've been through this with the DS/DSi. How many years of playing cat and mouse of Nintendo blocking headers and flashcart manufacturers updating them the next day did it take before Nintendo finally blocked most flashcarts by detecting hardware? 5 years? 6? They're incompetent, I don't know how to phrase this better, they really are.

You make fun of the Sky3DS when it's the Gateway users that always cry buckets of tears when Nintendo changes keys and the only way to fix the issue is to wait for someone to leak them so that Gateways are usable again - a bit of a double standard there.

My point is, both cards can be blocked and this is fact, neither behaves like a real cartridge does and they can be rendered inoperable at any point in time - get used to that thought because it's true.
Hmm wonder which one of these guys is more reputable. The "real dev" with 1 post, or the GBATemp staff member with actual technical expertise?

Can't believe anyone liked that post full of spelling errors and bad grammar. He types like he's twelve. Get it together, guys. Just as bad as starting a post with, "well my dad works at Nintendo and he told me..."
 
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Nintendo knows if you are using a SKY3DS, Gateway, any flashcard. They are working with the feds to do no knock raids looking for flash cards and micro sd cards...

Meanwhile there will be bongs, weed, and other paraphernalia that they will ignore.. just to get flashcards.

Im telling you. Nintendo coming after us :)
 

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Out of all the N3ds i'd have to say the best looking one is the new monster hunter 4 ultimate by far, and it looks like US lucked out by not getting the N3ds regular
yea. thats why i imported jap n3ds but unfortunately i've mistaken regarding regionthree which is currently only support old 3ds not n3ds.
 

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If Nintendo wanted to ban Sky3ds they would...but they cant... looks like there isnt anyone with a brain at Nintendo. If they were smart they would PM all those who know how to block it to spill their guts for a price.

Come on Nintendo... Ban Sky3ds.. I dare ya.
 

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What are you laughing at it's daylight in japan I could bet we are all nintendo co-workers in some 3 sqft sort of office trying to impersonate western people

And those who are not are feds

And this is all a conspiracy for a quick cash grab involving the illuminatti
 

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If Nintendo wanted to ban Sky3ds they would...but they cant... looks like there isnt anyone with a brain at Nintendo. If they were smart they would PM all those who know how to block it to spill their guts for a price.

Come on Nintendo... Ban Sky3ds.. I dare ya.


They don't have to PM anybody. They can get there hands on the card themselves.
 

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Hey guys, listen:

sky3ds DOES NOT use any xploit, it CANNOT be blocked through a software patch. I'm a real dev and I'm bored of read about that conversation with that fake dev (why people is so stupid to believe a copy&paste conversation? THERE ARE NO PROOFS). If this fake "dev" was right, Sky3ds would have been blocked long time ago. Even gateway devs would have leaked the "magic line" that blocks the Sky3DS. -_-
However It CAN be blocked by hardware.
But don't worry, current consoles don't have any hardware upgrade to block Sky3DS, maybe in the future they will.
Why do you have to believe me? Because next 3DS firmware won't block Sky3DS, this is a fact. Anyway want to bet? I love bets.

Placing my imaginary monies on the next update blocking sky3DS or even the update after that one. Remember though, neimod himself managed to identify a sky3DS vs a retail card with his own hardware, so it's perfectly plausible for it to be blocked with software. There's also the possibility of newer chips being used in the newer carts which have a slightly different response which the 3DS can check against, and thus block those newer games from working on the sky3DS. Heck, we don't even know if the N3DS specific games have any special responses yet or if they work on sky3DS at all. Also, R&D takes time, if you are a real dev you should know that. All of you sky3DS people are really in denial that your cart can actually be patched. By that logic, all the DS flash carts should have never been blocked ever because they emulate a normal DS cart. There are still ways to find those carts apart from normal carts you know.
 

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Hey guys, listen:

sky3ds DOES NOT use any xploit, it CANNOT be blocked through a software patch. I'm a real dev and I'm bored of read about that conversation with that fake dev (why people is so stupid to believe a copy&paste conversation? THERE ARE NO PROOFS). If this fake "dev" was right, Sky3ds would have been blocked long time ago. Even gateway devs would have leaked the "magic line" that blocks the Sky3DS. -_-
However It CAN be blocked by hardware.
But don't worry, current consoles don't have any hardware upgrade to block Sky3DS, maybe in the future they will.
Why do you have to believe me? Because next 3DS firmware won't block Sky3DS, this is a fact. Anyway want to bet? I love bets.


So, elaborate. Who are you?
 

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That's not true. EmuNAND as a whole could be neutralized with a simple patch that only allows the Home Menu to be loaded from NAND, GW can be patched just as easily as Sky3DS can.

but GW's launcher.dat has full system access, and upon loading the emunand it can patch nintendo's patch.
unlike sky3ds, which does not have full system access.
gateway's ability to use emunand cannot be patched just as easily as sky3ds...
 
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but GW's launcher.dat has full system access, and upon loading the emunand it can patch nintendo's patch.
unlike sky3ds, which does not have full system access.
gateway's ability to use emunand cannot be patched just as easily as sky3ds...

Basically this. Unless sky3DS/qq3DS pulled an MT and started copying Gateway's stuff, they're basically destined to be stuck as a simple cartridge emulator with a button on it. Gateway already does a lot of patches to make emuNAND work, one more probably won't set them back a whole lot.
 
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Hey guys, listen:

sky3ds DOES NOT use any xploit, it CANNOT be blocked through a software patch. I'm a real dev and I'm bored of read about that conversation with that fake dev (why people is so stupid to believe a copy&paste conversation? THERE ARE NO PROOFS). If this fake "dev" was right, Sky3ds would have been blocked long time ago. Even gateway devs would have leaked the "magic line" that blocks the Sky3DS. -_-
However It CAN be blocked by hardware.
But don't worry, current consoles don't have any hardware upgrade to block Sky3DS, maybe in the future they will.
Why do you have to believe me? Because next 3DS firmware won't block Sky3DS, this is a fact. Anyway want to bet? I love bets.

I bet you it will. How much? Software, not hardware - not next patch necessarily but it will be patched.

I don't know how neimod checked for it, but can't you even imagine a way in which it could check? What about the access times of saves and the RomFS? There hasn't been a 'long time' to implement a reliable block. I wouldn't be surprised if New3DS in Europe come with some way to try and get the user to upgrade to a quick 9.5 that patches some of the current things and nothing else. I mean they won't have over 9.0 on system (apparently) but they could encourage immediate upgrade somehow.
 

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