ROM Hack Legend of Zelda Spirit Track D-Pad Patch
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Hello, Greiga Master ! You made a great work! The controls is soo smooth ! The old Phantom Hourglass patch is not even close to yours. We definitely need the new one.
But me too registered here to thank you!
I also have one suggestion - to make train camera movable with d-pad. The camera is quite unresponsive with touch controls. With d-pad camera it would be a lot more comfortable to react on different events while on the road
Another thing would be great - to map train's levers to the buttons. For example: B-X - change speed; Y - toggle line, A - horn. But I understand, that may be impossible
P.S. Sorry for my english, I am ukrainian
But me too registered here to thank you!
I also have one suggestion - to make train camera movable with d-pad. The camera is quite unresponsive with touch controls. With d-pad camera it would be a lot more comfortable to react on different events while on the road
Another thing would be great - to map train's levers to the buttons. For example: B-X - change speed; Y - toggle line, A - horn. But I understand, that may be impossible P.S. Sorry for my english, I am ukrainian
Does this make the game easier? That fucking flute thing screws me over so hard!
I'd think that if it's easier is a matter of opinion overall. If it was difficult to touch where you want to go and do those touch screen gestures to attack and roll then it would be easier now that they're bound to buttons. The flute is probably much easier to use now since you don't have to constantly blow into your mic to get it to work and can just press A.
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I gotta disagree, personally. Spirit Tracks took just about everything in Phantom Hourglass, and improved it in serious ways. The touch controls are similar, sure, but the setup and quality of the two games are so, so different. I pretty much had to force myself to trudge through Phantom Hourglass, but absolutely loved Spirit Tracks.
Anyway, on topic, this is seriously cool. I didn't dislike the touch controls in PH or ST, but it'll be really cool to see what it's like with traditional controls. Looks like I'll have to brush off the DSLite and R4.
Great patch. Your two patches have made me want to give ST and PH a try again. I did notice something, your PH patch also works with the camera, where it adjusts according to the direction you move/press, but on the ST patch it doesn't. Is the camera handled differently in ST?
I hadn't noticed that, but you're right. The games were similar enough that I could implement the patch in a similar way but i guess the camera following link is different in PH. Ideally the camera shouldn't be moving around though since that was really only useful to give you more room to touch with the touch controls.
I rather like how it works in PH, that way you have a farther view distance for the direction you're moving, to see and react to what you're coming up on. Kind of like how a lot of platformers handle the camera.
Great fan of Zelda here. Not a fan of stylus-based games.
Zelda, in essence, its an action game, and the two ds games, using stylus... unplayable for me.
I was waiting for someone to make a patch since 2011, and you did it. Thank you!
Zelda, in essence, its an action game, and the two ds games, using stylus... unplayable for me.
I was waiting for someone to make a patch since 2011, and you did it. Thank you!
Well, better playing with a stylus than swinging with the stupid MotionPlus controller -.-
Haven't beat Skyward Sword, because it was annoying... (in the beginning it's awesome, but when you play a bit than it gets very annoying - at least for me)
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My touch screen is busted, is this patch allows me to play this game fully?
or you still need touch screen?
Can you make a patch that disable touch based and use all buttons instead?
or you still need touch screen?
Can you make a patch that disable touch based and use all buttons instead?
The moves that you actually need to do for SS to register what you want are minimal. Maybe you're doing it wrong and overly swinging your hand... ..I never believed to much people that said that controls for this game didn't work at all also, since I've played it a lot and never had big issues myself... just some rare and small nuisances
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So what, you think everyone who has those issues are making it up?
The controls took me a while to get used to. But once I did, the only things that consistently gave me trouble were thrusting and, in certain boss fights, shielding. Good grief. Fast-paced swordplay involving the shield was near impossible when fighting enemies like the pirate captain. the smallest accidental jerk of your other arm would make you thrust when you meant to shield, and vice versa.
Kinda. In some cases the game is not the problem at all ..it's the guy that's playing not as he should.So what, you think everyone who has those issues are making it up?
In others, your nunshock, wiimotionplus may be the issue ...and not the game code.
Yeah, I can see those things being a problem for some. Don't know if my movements were more precise than normal or if my motionplus that wasn't overly sensitive, but I didn't had much problems on that extend at all.
Maybe you're moving your wiimote without even noticing when shielding?
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If the game's input isn't apparent or simple enough for a huge number of the fanbase to get working properly, then it is a problem with the game's design. 1:1 motion controls are an entirely different animal from traditional button inputs. Traditional button inputs are more of a "0s and 1s" type of thing whereas motion controls are more of an analog type of thing, if that makes sense. Hence, there's going to be a lot more room for input variance with motion controls, and the game needs to be designed around that.
It was a combination of both moving the wiimote without noticing, and just as a result of quick, constant shielding, which caused other parts of my body to shake, including the arm with the wiimote. I understand that relaxing and using precise, calculated swings is a possible way to avoid this (usually), but that's not what the game advertises or implies. The game advertises and implies "natural, flowing" 1:1 swordplay. So naturally, people are going to use exaggerated and aggressive body motions, just as if they were using a real sword and shield. It's the same problem Kinect Star Wars had with the lightsaber battles (from what I've heard; I haven't played it): The technology and/or design just wasn't QUITE there yet. And it's a real shame that Nintendo has pretty much ditched motion controls, because I think a next-generation Wii motion plus with more precise, recent technology could work great, especially with Zelda. They just needed to iron Skyward Sword's kinks, just like how Spirit Tracks ironed out Phantom Hourglass's kinks with touch controls.
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